Microsoft Feared Mac Vs. Vista In '05 652
CWmike writes "Gregg Keizer sifted through many threads of e-mails released under the 'Vista Capable' lawsuit to dig up this jewel...More than a year before Windows Vista's release — and long before Apple started poking fun at the OS — Microsoft officials were already worried about comparisons between Mac OS X and Vista. An e-mail thread from October 2005 showed that an article in the Wall Street Journal by Walt Mossberg grabbed the attention of managers at Microsoft. In a column headlined What PC to Buy If You Are Planning On a Vista Upgrade, Mossberg alarmed one Windows manager who forwarded a bit from the column.... 'You won't have to worry about Vista if you buy one of Apple Computer's Macintosh computers, which don't run Windows,' Mossberg had written. 'Every mainstream consumer doing typical tasks should consider the Mac. Its operating system, called Tiger, is better and more secure than Windows XP, and already contains most of the key features promised for Vista.' Warrier added a comment of his own: 'A premium experience as defined by Walt = Apple. This is why we need to address [the column].'"
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:5, Funny)
It's not fair to call vista a virus.
Viruses are some of the tiniest and most efficient pieces of code written.
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:5, Funny)
I would have gotten hooked Linux if it wasn't for OS X. Terminal.app sitting in the Utilities folder is like a drug pusher. First it starts out with a little 'ls' and 'mv'. Then you learn to SSH and X11 forward. Then come the shell scripts and built in gcc.
Oh god, and then you discover screen and it's all over. You're hooked.
I'm now a CLI junkie. I get my fix from my debian rtorrent machine that gives me my movies and now I'm building a home automation center from NSLU2 and 1-Wire. My MacBook Pro starts Terminal.app on start.
Parents keep your kids away from Apple, they could be come CLI Junkies. Vista is the one true path to salvation.
Maybe something like this (Score:3, Funny)
"Better ingredients. Better OS. Papa Steve's."
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:2, Funny)
CLITerminal.app Junkies.
So, Monsieur Trollaxor, you're saying they could become clit junkies?
=Smidge=
Ballmer! (Score:5, Funny)
I will kill this Mossberg for you for ten million of your American dollars and a lifetime license for Windows XP.
You haven't seen some viruses (Score:4, Funny)
You haven't seen some viruses. I seem to remember, back in the dark ages of floppies, long before the internet, when 1.44 MB was all the space on a floppy and viruses were supposed to go unnoticed on one so they could spread, someone had written a 100K virus in Clipper. Or one of the similar DBase2-like databases. In an age of 512 _byte_ viruses, or where even complex and sophisticated ones were measured in single digit kilobytes, that was fucking huge. It's akin to having a 100 MB virus nowadays. In fact, it's akin to nowadays writing a virus in Java and distributing it together with a JDK.
So in all fairness, you can't generalize like that. Just because Vista is the most extreme case of a bloated and inefficient virus, doesn't mean there weren't other viruses that were only slightly less bloated and inefficient before ;)
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:5, Funny)
You might as well sell your sole to Richard Stall..erm Satan!!/p>
Why would Satan, or Stallman for that matter, do with one of his shoes??
Re:News??? (Score:5, Funny)
People need to be reminded of the monopolistic software prison they live in. They don't have to use Windows, and there is better software out there.
If you can leave any time you like, it's not a prison. It's just a really shitty hotel.
Re:Broken premise (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:2, Funny)
Yes, WE can: The New Mac commercial (Score:5, Funny)
Bill Gates: And I'm a PC
Mac: WHOA, Bill Gates! What are you doing on a Mac commercial?
Bill: To remind people that Microsoft is more than Windows. We've been writing software for the Mac since before there was a Mac. The same Office suite that PC's use is available to Mac Users
Mac: Actually, Bill, it's better.
Bill: [blushes] Thanks. And with Boot Camp and virtualization, you can run Windows if you have to.
Mac: Or want to. I think Vista ROCKS on a Mac.
Bill: That's all. Microsoft makes software and operating systems... for PCs AND Macs.
Mac: So, we can work together.
Bill: Yes. Yes, we can. [shakes hands] Nice shoes...[Exit, Stage right]
[Mac stands stunned]
[Enter PC, eating a churro]
PC: You're not going to believe this. I just met Jerry Seinfeld in the hallway.
[Mac stands stunned]
PC: What? What'd I miss?
[Fade to iMac running Office 2008 and Parallels with Vista] and new 'Yes, WE can' logo
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:4, Funny)
Some are. The virus world has gone downhill a lot though. Why, many of them are written in Visual Basic!
Just FUD and bullshit... (Score:5, Funny)
From someone who has never used Vista. I've had it installed for years, it's every bit as stable as XP, and while it's clearly somewhat more "expensive" (CPU+Memory), on any kind of modern hardware it is irrelevant.
It's also clearly more secure than XP. In all cases where I've installed it for friends and family, it has noticeably reduced the amount of cruft that gets installed.
Re:Microsoft Bailout??? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:3, Funny)
Even though we are all supposedly geeks, it might help if you gave grammar lessons in English instead of regex.
You know what it is, my peeps (Score:5, Funny)
It's fear of a Mac planet.
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:3, Funny)
Only way to watch videos in bed/couch.
Judging by that comment and your nick, I'll wager you don't have a girlfriend.
Re:News??? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:2, Funny)
MAC = Macintosh, Mandatory Access Control, Mandatory Access Control, Message Authentication Code, ad infinitum (almost)
Most things only have meaning in their context. "MAC" is one of the worst cases.
Re:Still true (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Broken premise (Score:3, Funny)
Vista Ultimate was what, like Ã600 retail when it first came out?
No. The best version of Vista cost $129 from the beginning [apple.com].
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I feel like the more people that use MAC... (Score:3, Funny)
There's a plaice for everything.
Re:What Microsoft should really have considered (Score:3, Funny)
This is because your SATA drive is supposed to take a nap now and then, for thermal reasons. This was an XP bug they fixed in Vista. Your network card needs frequent naps too obviously. Other than that, and video, Vista just screams - when it's not swapping.