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"New" Words From the Geek Culture 191

thatskinnyguy sends news of Merriam-Webster's 2008 list of new words and, to no-one's surprise, a good number of them come out of geek culture: words like webinar, malware, netroots, pretexting, and fanboy are now official words according to M-W. The CNet article pulls out one "new" word for special appreciation — mondegreen — and, while the article gets the origin right, it ends with a lame call for readers to send in their favorite mondegreens. (CNet does have the good grace to link the Kiss This Guy site.) SFGate columnist Jon Carroll has been collecting readers' mondegreens since 1995 and his list is bound to be better. Quoting Carroll, in a prophetic mode: "This space has been for some years the chief publicity agent for mondegreens. The Oxford English Dictionary has not yet seen the light, but it will, it will." Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?
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"New" Words From the Geek Culture

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  • Is it wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ickoonite ( 639305 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @03:14AM (#24113125) Homepage
    ...that I don't know what almost all these words mean? What is a "webinar" for example? I guess I'm just not cool anymore... :|
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @03:23AM (#24113197)

    Witness the birth of a new geek word on Arstechnica forum:

    pludge
    verb
    1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

    http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/953002313931

    The thread is now the third link on Google if you search for the word.

  • For shame (Score:5, Insightful)

    by consonant ( 896763 ) <shrikant.n@NOspAm.gmail.com> on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @03:31AM (#24113249) Homepage

    I realize being a language Nazi is nerdy, even by Slashdot standards, but this summary is just shockingly awful!

    The headline reads "\"New\" Words From The Geek Culture". So the summary starts off with a single line on it, then randomly rambles on about CNet focusing on 'mondegreens'. Bzzt! Summary-headline mismatch already! Now it's possible that kdawson is just mimicking TFA, which does the same, but that's a frcikin' blog post! Somehow, a rambling blog post has been distilled into (if it's possible) a fumbly summary as well!

    All this meandering is topped off with a quite inexplicable question: "Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?"

    Seriously, WTF?

  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Brain Damaged Bogan ( 1006835 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @03:35AM (#24113287)
    "web seminar" it's not a geek term at all, but a marketing one. my old boss used to love these damn things and every time he'd say the word "webinar" a peice of me died a little inside
  • Re:For shame (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Hal_Porter ( 817932 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @03:57AM (#24113423)

    Coherence and originality as so Web 1.0. The Web 2.0 way is to get a bunch of uncredited articles and make a 'mashup' of them.

    Mind you, Mondegreen is a cool invention
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondegreen [wikipedia.org]

  • Re:meh, Webster's (Score:5, Insightful)

    by StrawberryFrog ( 67065 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @04:17AM (#24113555) Homepage Journal

    I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling to its dictionary.

    Why shouldn't a dictionary have that word? People are going to use it, and other people are going to want to know what it means. A dictionary would be failing them by not including it.

  • by petes_PoV ( 912422 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @04:43AM (#24113703)
    I wonder how much "staying power" some of these words will have. OK they've been around in specialised usages for some years, in an industry that's famous for making up new words. However, until they make the leap from being geek words to being words your mother would use I will still be sceptical that they haven't been properly accepted.

    This smacks of the dictionary trying to be overly trendy - I expect a lot of these will be quietly dropped from this dictionary in years to come.

  • Re:meh, Webster's (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ya really ( 1257084 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @04:51AM (#24113745)
    In my honest opinion, I think Webster's adds buzz words like these mostly knowing it will give them free advertisement when the media lets everyone know what pop culture words are now somewhat legit. Dictionaries dont really need to add nonsense words that tend to be slang or are too silly to ever be used outside of a joke (looking at you webinar). For words like these, there's always urbandictionary.com. After all, wikipedia may have an article on Jenna Jameson [wikipedia.org], but Britannica [britannica.com] does not.
  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MrNemesis ( 587188 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @05:23AM (#24113915) Homepage Journal

    Primarily because, in my experience, most users of the word "pro-active" are unaware of it's anti-reactive connotations and use it to describe singularly reactive situations ("I want us to respond to this pro-actively"), or even in just syntax-ruining "I've learnt a cool new word" non-sequiturs ("our new rubber grommets have a 100% pro-active paradigm"). In other words, I'm convinced that alot of people use it because they think it sounds More Important than "active" or lack the vocabulary to better describe it.

    It's kinda acceptable in most sysadmin circles as most geeks are aware of things like "pro-active" support (I prefer to call it preventative maintenance myself since it means less fuzzyness for the recipient, which we abbreviate to premaint in conversation) but neologisms are mostly a matter of taste. /spot the word-snob ;)

  • by bazorg ( 911295 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @05:27AM (#24113921)
    now all we need is to add "cromulent" to the dictionary.
  • Re:meh, Webster's (Score:4, Insightful)

    by digitig ( 1056110 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @06:09AM (#24114121)

    But how many times have you used mouse potato since 1993?

    Isn't that exactly why it should be in a dictionary? Somebody reading something from the early 1990s might come across it and want to check their understanding of the meaning. If I'm reading old literature I'm rather glad that my dictionary includes "sweven" and "parfay" precisely because I don't normally use those words.

  • Re:meh, Webster's (Score:5, Insightful)

    by digitig ( 1056110 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @06:11AM (#24114131)

    I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling [merriam-webster.com] to its dictionary.

    What do you mean by "authoritative"? Do you think that the purpose of a dictionary is to tell you how the language should be used or to report how it actually is used? Most dictionary compilers see themselves as having the latter role, in which case "bling" certainly deserves a place.

  • Old news (Score:4, Insightful)

    by xalorous ( 883991 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @06:21AM (#24114179) Journal

    I think it's too late. Already common use and even listed in some dictionaries.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google [merriam-webster.com]

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/google [reference.com] (lists 5 references to google)

  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by owlnation ( 858981 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @06:39AM (#24114287)
    No, I don't think webinar's geek word... it sounds disturbingly like a... BUZZWORD!

    Disown it!

    And seriously, what does mondegreen have to do with geek either -- nor is it in any way a new word. This seems like a another sockpuppet article designed to generate traffic for a website.
  • Oxford English (Score:2, Insightful)

    by DanJ_UK ( 980165 ) * on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @07:45AM (#24114659) Homepage
    "The Oxford English Dictionary has not yet seen the light, but it will, it will." Oh but it won't.
  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @07:58AM (#24114757)

    In other words, I'm convinced that alot of people use it

    The Guide to Alot
    a lot many Steph had a lot of apples.
    allot to divide They alloted 2 apples per person
    alot no meaning I found alot of errors in there post!

  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by ad0n ( 1171681 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @09:17AM (#24115823)
    It's like listening to a police officer giving testimony in court (and trying to sound more intelligent).

    "I proceeded to approach the accused. Afterwhich, I proceeded to question the individual and ..... "

    What ever happened to good, clean use of language?
  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by g0at ( 135364 ) <[ac.taogyz] [ta] [neb]> on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @10:23AM (#24117079) Homepage Journal

    For a self-described "word snob" I'm surprised you bungled "its" ("it's") and "a lot" ("alot"). :)

  • Re:Is it wrong... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by bkr1_2k ( 237627 ) on Wednesday July 09, 2008 @01:58PM (#24120745)

    For reference, it's shudder that you're looking for, not shutter, which is what is put over a window during a storm.

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