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3G iPhone on the Way? 191

Posted by ScuttleMonkey
from the still-waiting dept.
mooseman93 wrote to point out Forbes is suggesting that if you haven't purchased an iPhone yet, you may want to wait just a little bit longer. Supposedly the next generation of iPhone will offer some substantial upgrades, including 3G capabilities. "To be sure, a 3G iPhone likely won't pop up over the next several weeks. The Unofficial Apple Weblog reported this week that Apple is hiring a television production firm in preparation for a high-profile late February announcement. That event, however, will likely detail the widely anticipated release of a software developer's kit for Apple's iPhone and iPod Touch. But the wait can't drag on much longer. AT&T is building out its high-speed wireless network as quickly as it can, announcing Wednesday that it will expand its 3G wireless broadband service to more than 80 additional cities by the end of the year for a total of roughly 350 markets."
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3G iPhone on the Way?

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  • by alxtoth (914920) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @05:37AM (#22358674) Homepage
    You have a choice: you buy a product NOW, or you read the news: oh, there is a quad-GPU graphics card scheduled in 6 months. By the time it's ready, you read again: there is another one with 64 GPU's ready in one year. So, if your choice is to never be happy, don't blame it on tech.
  • by EjectButton (618561) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @05:46AM (#22358710)
    What is with all of these articles (particularly Apple articles) that have absolutely zero substance? I read the summary and the article, this looks more like guerrilla marketing in the form of speculation piled on rumor piled on speculation via anonymous tip. I'm not trying to flame here but sites like Engadget, Gizmodo, and Digg are completely flooded with this crap and it's sad to see it seeping into Slashdot as well.

    It's as though any headline ending in a question mark has a better than 50% chance of being an advertisement or a troll/flamebait piece.
  • Generally... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Xenex (97062) * <xenex@opinionstic[ ]om ['k.c' in gap]> on Saturday February 09, 2008 @06:46AM (#22358894) Journal
    Advertisements don't tell you to wait.
  • Only now 3G in US? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by protomala (551662) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @06:47AM (#22358896) Homepage
    The news for me is that the 3G network isn't already all over United States. Here in there city I live (Porto Alegre) in Brazil there is already a 3G network on 800Mhz and another in 1.2Ghz is expected to start this year, so I was expecting US would be already much more advanced.
    This and the e-voting makes me wonder if those news about US being beaten technology by other countries isn't only for Japan/Asia/Europe, seems like in many areas even in-development countries are starting to be better.
  • by Registered Coward v2 (447531) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @07:17AM (#22358972)
    The news for me is that the 3G network isn't already all over United States. Here in there city I live (Porto Alegre) in Brazil there is already a 3G network on 800Mhz and another in 1.2Ghz is expected to start this year, so I was expecting US would be already much more advanced.
    This and the e-voting makes me wonder if those news about US being beaten technology by other countries isn't only for Japan/Asia/Europe, seems like in many areas even in-development countries are starting to be better.


    It's really a question of cost - I'm pretty sure if you look at actual 3G coverage in Brazil (or Europe for that matter) you'd find a number of areas that lack 3G - but the concentration of population is such that say 80% of the population have it even with the holes. I'd further guess that if you hit Brasilia, then move along the coast (Rio, San Paulo, Belem, etc) with 3.5 you'd get most of Brazil's population of cell phone users who'd want 3G.

    In the US, the population density is such that partial coverage by 3G will also get a significant percentage of users so they rollout has been focused there. Given the cost of new antennas, negotiating new leases on towers, ensuring there aren't interference problems it makes sense to go where you get the highest potential return and build out the rest as funds allow. Yes, that means the poor user in The Middle of Nowhere, Iowa will not have 3G for a while; simply because the cost of servicing that user is too high.
  • Re:Advertisements. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by AndGodSed (968378) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @07:55AM (#22359078) Homepage Journal
    I thought this was news for nerds, Iphone = nerd newsworthy, a 3G Iphone = Definitely nerd newsworthy, 3G Iphone in many markets where geeks have been waiting for them to arrive PLUS that the 2g one might be available cheaper therefore allowing gadget freaks all over to get one? Nerd Newsworthy.
  • by eebra82 (907996) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @08:07AM (#22359122) Homepage

    You have a choice: you buy a product NOW, or you read the news: oh, there is a quad-GPU graphics card scheduled in 6 months. By the time it's ready, you read again: there is another one with 64 GPU's ready in one year. So, if your choice is to never be happy, don't blame it on tech.
    You're missing the point. iPhone over EDGE is a premature product, because the phone is meant to serve as both mobile phone and internet browser. You won't get that benefit before you reach 3G speeds.

    You are obviously correct that hardware is under constant development, but put my point above to consideration and add the really expensive hardware you must plunge out cash for, suddenly some advice does come in handy.
  • by nanoakron (234907) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @08:15AM (#22359146)
    I am a classic Apple fanboi, and a UK resident. Often, I find these two facts in opposition with each other - particularly over the iPhone.

    Apple's continued US-centricity is a ridiculous holdover for such a large company with even larger intentions. Their insistence on selling first to a US market which has always lagged behind the rest of the world in terms of mobile phone infrastructure is a case in point.

    If Apple instead decided to throw their weight behind launching the iPhone that the rest of the world wants, it would force the US phone market to modernise, kicking and screaming on the way.

    We already have data that iPhones exist (illegally and unlocked...) in most countries around the world, even some surprising locations. This shows what a strong global brand and product Apple has sitting ready to be unleashed. But instead, they insist on catering to the often backwards, domestic US market first.

    Even worse, they have then tried to force a US-based model for phone subscription services on the rest of the world, where such practices don't exist.

    I posit that the slow uptake of iPhones in Europe is due to a combination of initial outlay for the phone, high subscription rates not in keeping with the service provided, limited number of networks you can legally sign up to, and ultimately network lock-in. Each of these devices exists in the US. The do not exist in Europe for any phone other than the iPhone, and this is what the market is finding hard to swallow, even though we really love the product.

    So my final message is this - Apple, get your head out of your arse and realise that there is a world outside the USA.
  • by HumanEmulator (1062440) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @09:33AM (#22359414)

    This only point of this article seems to be don't buy an iPhone. Even the headline is designed to taunt people that already bought one.

    What evidence does the article provide?

    - AT&T said a new iPhone was coming in 2008. Of course this leaves 10 more months assuming that AT&T even knows what Apple is working on which previous reports have said they don't. http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-02/ff_iphone [wired.com]

    - Apple recently hired a television crew for... something. According to a Mac rumors site.

    - Broadcom has started sampling a new lower power 3G chip. Which is implied to be a panacea, completely ignoring that redesigning the iPhone is more complicated than popping in a new chip -- there are antennas to redesign and software that has to be rewritten just to start -- and the chip isn't even shipping yet.

    - "Apple can't wait much longer." The author uses this argument several times, backing it up with AT&T's plans to roll out 3G to more cities by the end of 2008.

    Hasn't it occurred to anyone that it's going to take 6 months for the FCC to test a new iPhone and no one has turned up anything to show the FCC has even started this yet?

  • iPhones are pretty (Score:4, Insightful)

    by erroneus (253617) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @09:33AM (#22359416) Homepage
    But if I can't save or work with attachments from email or even do simple things like copy and paste, it gets pretty worthless.

    If people want a reason to wait, then they should wait for the "business iPhone" that has been predicted by some previous iPhone related article that made its way here some time ago. As a Blackberry user, I have grown accustomed to certain levels of functionality that, if not duplicated, will make iPhone feel broken somehow... and I'm sure one will come out because Blackberry has been working on competition for iPhone and I can't imagine it will take long to release.
  • Stupid Title (Score:3, Insightful)

    by stewbacca (1033764) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @10:45AM (#22359762)
    FTA: "Sorry, First Adopters--Better iPhone Is On The Way"

    What am I to be sorry about? I've been using a really great phone since August. My option was to not be using a really great phone over the past seven months. Gee, Forbes really nailed this one!

  • 3G != iPhone (Score:3, Insightful)

    by fruity_pebbles (568822) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @12:05PM (#22360366)
    In the last year I've owned three cell phones that were all capable of 3G and all worked fine on AT&T's 3G network.

    AT&T currently offers about 18 different phones that are 3G capable. While I'm sure that AT&T is looking forward to a 3G-capable iPhone, I think it's much more likely that their ongoing 3G expansion is more about supporting their current customers and current product lineup than about supporting future products.

  • by nanoakron (234907) on Saturday February 09, 2008 @08:22PM (#22364708)
    You raise an important point but it's not really an issue.

    Broadcom, who manufacture a vast percentage of all the 3G radio chips in use, have forseen this issue and the new chip purported to have been sourced by Apple for the next-gen iPhone can use all international 3G frequencies.

    My original point of a US company trying to force a US subscription model on Europe as their major failing still stands however. It's business arrogance, plain and simple.

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