Greenpeace Admits Targeting Apple Grabs Headlines 394
An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo published this morning allegations by the bromine industry claiming that Greenpeace's report on the iPhone was inaccurate and alarmist. They got an official rebuttal to the bromine industry by Greenpeace, but the most interesting part is their acknowledgment that their targeting of Apple, even while they have similar reports on every manufacturer, is a deliberate attempt to grab headlines. While it's logical and not surprising, I find it quite shocking to see them be so cavalier, and even hypocritical, about it."
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What's this with anonymouse? (Score:4, Informative)
Why are the URLs hidden behind anonymouse? If I want to browse anonymously, I'm going to use Tor, I don't need some stupid anonymizing site that pops up little boxes over what I'm looking at.
The real url to the store is this: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/electronics-industry-analyst-group-dismisses-greenpeace-claims-on-iphone-313411.php [gizmodo.com]. I suspect the submitter of doing this one purpose.
Yup (Score:5, Informative)
They also promoted the idea that a harbor project for the large (largest in the world, actually) salt mine down under in Baja was a risk to the gray whales, so that the harbor project was stopped. The pier was projected so big, that a damned whale coud pass under it from ANY possition.... SIDEWAYS. That time they were paid by competing Australian salt miners.
I, for one, have never ever believed anything coming out of greanpeace. They are nothing but a rent-a-hoolingan shop.
Re:Hypocritical of Slashdot? (Score:5, Informative)
Finally, in the last sentence of the article, I read "While it might not make as many headlines as the iPhone it doesn't mean that we are not focusing on all manufacturers to remove toxic chemicals from their products."
THAT'S IT!??
Come off it. Apple is the poster child for high-tech consumerism right now, and has invested heavily to reach that status - so they get the brunt of the criticism as well. BFD.
Re:Life Meets Art (Score:4, Informative)
An anti-science fiction writer advising the US senate on climate science [realclimate.org], what could possibly go wrong?
Summary Incorrect (Score:5, Informative)
However, Greenpeace did not admit that is what they are doing. The summary is incorrect.
If you think we just protest against Apple then look out for soon a report covering a wide range of manufacturers as we have done in 2006. While it might not make as many headlines as the iPhone it doesn't mean that we are not focusing on all manufacturers to remove toxic chemicals from their products.
What Greenpeace said is the opposite of what the summary claims they said. Greenpeace said that they recognize that their report on the iPhone did capture more headlines, but that they do, and have done, the same thing with other phones. Greenpeace is claiming that they did not focus on the iPhone in order to capture headlines, that it happened because the media is more interested in news relating to the iPhone. Which also makes perfect sense, because that is what their readers want to read about (not whether it's right or wrong for them to report what the people want to hear, but that is the way it is).
So again, I agree that Greenpeace almost certainly did focus on the issue in order to attract attention to the issue, and that that is their standard operating procedure, it is clearly false that they admitted to it.
Re:the media is lazy (Score:4, Informative)
I guess you didn't notice, but that "dirty hippie" had been photoshopped with Steve Jobs' face, along with the words "It's not easy... being green...", and a green apple on the ground in front of him. The reference is Steve Jobs' "A Greener Apple" statement from some months back.
I won't deny, however, that Gizmondo has no love for Greenpeace, yet I do think in this case they have a point. Apple has stated that they will eliminate all PVCs and BFRs from their products sometime in 2008, which puts them above average among computer and mobile phone makers:
Dell: BFRs already eliminated, PVCs By 2009
Nokia: PVCs already eliminated, no date for complete elimination of BFRs
Toshiba: By 2009
Lenovo: PVC By 2009, no date for complete elimination of BFRs
Sony: Sometime in 2010
HP: No date for complete elimination of either
Motorola: No date for complete elimination of either
So it seems ridiculous for Greenpeace to keep singling Apple out for PVC/BFR elimination instead of, say, HP or Motorola. Well, except for the fact that (a) any headline with "Apple" in it gets tons of media attention right now, and (b) there are so many pro- and anti-Apple fanboys that any new controversy will whip both sides into a frenzy.
Kudos to Greenpeace for social engineering, shame on them for demagoguery.
(Oh, and you can't argue that Greenpeace doesn't single out Apple. Try going to greenpeace.org/sony, greenpeace.org/hp or greenpeace.org/motorola. Didn't think so.)
Re:The strategy works (Score:3, Informative)
Corrected.
Re:The strategy works (Score:2, Informative)
ellipsis
. 1.Gram. a. the omission from a sentence or other construction of one or more words that would complete or clarify the construction, as the omission of who are, while I am, or while we are from I like to interview people sitting down. b. the omission of one or more items from a construction in order to avoid repeating the identical or equivalent items that are in a preceding or following construction, as the omission of been to Paris from the second clause of I've been to Paris, but they haven't.
The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We have removed an ally of Al Qaida and cut off a source of terrorist funding.
And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more.
In these 19 months that changed the world, our actions have been focused and deliberate and proportionate to the offense. We have not forgotten the victims of September the 11th, the last phone calls, the cold murder of children, the searches in the rubble. With those attacks, the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.
If we're successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it's not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it's not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.
Reads a bit different when you supply your snip, don't it?
Re:Life Meets Art (Score:3, Informative)
You want something similarly dangerous that is common, you'd be better off picking oxygen, but even that isn't as bad.
No blackmail (Score:5, Informative)
Does this count as slander, or is it simply FUD?
Greenpeace is funded by private citizens, and doesn't even accept funding from governments, corporations, or other organisations that might compromise their independence. The only way in which companies are requested to "pay up" is by reducing their damage to the environment. If you have evidence to the contrary, I would love to see it.
Re:how brave of you! (Score:3, Informative)