iPods and Pacemakers Don't Mix 152
fermion writes "The Register reports a study that indicates that iPods and pacemakers do not get along. While there do not appear to be any long term effects, iPods disrupt the operation of the pacemaker. It is noted that such effects have not previously been observed as iPods do seem to be popular with the pacemaker-wearing population."
must be a slow news day.... (Score:4, Interesting)
This is a bit biased... (Score:5, Interesting)
The real concern is why pacemakers are made so they are susceptible to such interference. What happens when a user is exposed to an intentional RF radiator [wikipedia.org], which would be expected to put out much more power, and consequently cause problems at much greater distance?
It should be obvious that more study must be done - at what frequencies are pacemakers most affected? Might an 802.11 device, for example, be even more disruptive?
Re:where's all the EM noise coming from (Score:3, Interesting)
That said, I think the biggest problem I could see happening is if an external device somehow managed to fake out a "wake up and communicate" pulse and caused an unnecessary power drain on the pacemaker.
Re:Ipod only? (Score:3, Interesting)
Regarding sensationalism... (Score:5, Interesting)
msuave: Yes, a pacemaker or defibrillator is essentially inside a faraday cage already. They are generally titanium or steel encased, and designed to resist most radiation fields that are encountered in everyday life. However, faraday cages are not perfect, and the pacemaker has to have leads come out to thread into the heart. Just as you can use your cellphone inside a metal plane (also a faraday cage), some degree of radiation will be seen by the pacemaker electronics. In general, these devices are programmed by placing a wand over the device which essentially communicates by RF to the internal device -- if it was a perfect cage, it couldn't even be reprogrammed except by physically accessing the device (e.g. minor surgery.)
AC: Agreed regarding the sensationalism. Our practice tells EVERY pacemaker and defib recipient a list of things they should and shouldn't do. We counsel patients to hold their cellphone in their RIGHT hand and only crunch it between their right shoulder and ear, as almost all pacemakers are implanted on the left side. In general microwaves are ok, and patients are given a letter and card for the airport, where they can be wanded. Quite clearly, if somebody puts another RF emitting device RIGHT ON TOP of the implant, it could cause some interference. No, this is not unique to ipods. Again, if you actually talk to grandpa, I'm sure he knows this, especially if he was implanted by us. :) This "research" is quite ridiculous.
Finally, agreed regarding the description of the findings -- if it is just interrupting transmission of data to the programmer, this is a lot less dangerous than scrambling the internal signal seen by the pacemaker. The pacemakers are designed to recognize noise, again for the expected interference as noted above, and can handle this using many filters (e.g. something at 60 Hz is probably NOT coming from your body.)
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Wait, UIDs are not in binary?
Re:Just iPods? What's going on, Apple? (Score:1, Interesting)
I read the article. I realize they only tested the iPods. But that wasn't the point of my post, and a cleverer person would have realized that. There is nothing intrinsically different about an iPod that other players or similar devices wouldn't also exhibit, particularly when you're talking about electromagnetic emissions. It's like saying, "Coke is bad for you, but I won't mention any other similar cola because I didn't have time to test them."
The article almost implies that you're better off with an alternative music player, when in reality, they would all have the same effect on the pacemakers. Are you starting to get the point now? Glad to hear it!
Re:touch sensor, maybe (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:touch sensor, maybe (Score:3, Interesting)