Jobs Responds to Greenpeace FUD

EccentricAnomaly writes "Steve Jobs has posted a response on the Apple homepage to the Greenpeace Green My Apple campaign in which he basically makes a case for the Greenpeace campaign being a heaping pile of FUD. On one hand, you could say that Greenpeace shouldn't expect a company that has spent years battling Microsoft to just roll over. On the other, it looks like Apple is agreeing to do most of what Greenpeace has been demanding."

But did he have to club the baby seal at the end?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes, he did, because he's Steve Jobs.

Wow ...

[WrongSizeGlass]

That's the first Apple related story I've read in ages that didn't mention the iPhone. Is Steve feeling OK?

Looks like they just got in a shipment

[wakingrufus]

from this truck [64.53.233.249].

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[e2d2]

Is it too much to ask for products to be made of safe materials?

Like soylent green for example. It doesn't get any more "green" than soylent green.

I demand that my PCs be made of biodegradable environmentalists!

Re:Greenpeace responds to Steve responding

[Anonymous Coward]

Excelent point. Turn off your PC and go away as its using electricity which causes polution.

Even More Interesting

[realitybath1]

Want to give us some green to celebrate a greener apple?

OMG! I'm so happy I'm just throwing money all around.
Too bad you aren't here greenpeace.

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[snoyberg]

I lost all respect for Greenpeace when they came out opposing nuclear power.

My moment of truth with them was when I found out they were against pollution...

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[JobyKSU]

all business leaders must see to it that we're all working down in the coal mine for nothing. Anything less would be a perversion of capitalism.

Oh, c'mon. Trying to be funny or not, if you're going to try to use economic rational, at least get the basic assumptions covered. Capitalism doesn't exist unless people can buy stuff - that is, they have capital. Business leaders know that it wouldn't do any good to have all of us down in the coal mines because then there would be nobody to buy their "stuff."

At most they would put half of us down there.

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[ronanbear]

I'd know a few for whom the idea gets an ominous smile after a few beers (if you bring it up).

Jobs correctly pointed out that Apple has got an unfair rap. For example they confirmed the rumour that their screens will have LED backlights (something I heard about in January). Just making the announcement is all that's important to how Greenpeace assessed Apple's environmental record. Apple aren't a more environmentally friendly company they just changed their longstanding policy on product pre-announcements to shut up some Greenpeace trolls who should have known better.

Also, Apple pointed out that they stopped using PVC in their packaging 12 years ago. But Greenpeace gave HP a better environmental score, in part because they are "promising" to remove PVC from their packaging. I've always been bemused by Greenpeace's campaign against Apple because it's complete dishonesty undermines everything else they say.

For example, looking at a figure like weight percentage of product recycled doesn't reflect the inherent differences between product weight. If Apple produce a computer that weighs half as much as a rival then the rival would need to recycle at least 50% just to catch up with Apple (assuming identical environmental impacts per unit weight, obviously).

Re:unfriendly packaging

[CrackedButter]

Real Mac users don't get rid of their packaging! ;-)

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[Myopic]

More importantly, they have shown that their copy editor doesn't know how to hyphenate an adjective phrase. Damn, if the good people at Greenpeace haven't completed fifth grade, how can I trust their policy initiatives? I guess I can't.

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[WhatAmIDoingHere]

They're animals, dude. They're born for us to eat. If constant torture makes the meat taste better, I fully support it.

Re:But did he have to club the baby seal at the en

[Anonymous Coward]

Only after he dubbed it iSeal Mini.

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[feed_me_cereal]

PETA may troll, but they certainly don't measure up to their opponents yet, in that regard.

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[Anonymous Coward]

PETA = People Easting Tasty Animals

The only good Greenpeace activist are the ones lying in the bellies of whales!

Re:But did he have to club the baby seal at the en

[Anonymous Coward]

> Yes, he did, because he's Steve Jobs.

Hey, Apple's business model depends on its control of the hardware architecture. Hence, "Warranty void if seal is broken!"

A public information announcement

[Bloke down the pub]

Plus, recycled paper tends to be harsh and abrasive.

Then I'd suggest using it for functions where that isn't an issue e.g. packaging, and avoiding it for ones such as wiping your arse.

Brought to you by the department of the bloody obvious.