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15 Things Apple Should Change in Mac OS X 936

richi writes "Two of Computerworld's top operating systems editors, a Mac expert and a Windows expert, compare notes on what Apple should reconsider as it develops Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. Mac OS X 10.4, or Tiger, is (in their opinion) a noticeably better operating system than XP or Vista. But it is not perfect. OS X has its own quirks and flaws, and they set out to nail down some of the 'proud nails' for the next release." From the article: "7. Inconsistent User Interface. Open iTunes, Safari and Mail. All three of these programs are Apple's own, and they're among the ones most likely to be used by Mac OS X users. So why do all three of them look different? Safari, like several other Apple-made apps such as the Finder and Address Book, uses a brushed-metal look. iTunes sports a flat gun-metal gray scheme and flat non-shiny scroll bars. Mail is somewhere in between: no brushed metal, lots of gun-metal gray, and the traditional shiny blue scroll bars. Apple is supposed to be the king of good UI, and in many areas, it is. But three widely used apps from the same company with a different look? Sometimes consistency isn't the hobgoblin of little minds."
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15 Things Apple Should Change in Mac OS X

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  • by owlnation ( 858981 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:25AM (#17254510)
    Can't put widgets on the Desktop? Um, you can actually - but you need a widget to do it. The Devmode widget for one.

    And that solves the whole "no date on the desktop" one - and probably some of the others too.
  • WTF ? No F2 ? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:35AM (#17254652)
    "2. Renaming Isn't Easy. The process of renaming files is highly mouse-centric on the Mac. There's no F2 option (as there is on Windows) that lets you select the file and press F2 to expose the filename-editing mode. The mouse process requires very precisely timed mouse clicks. Anyone who has ever been forced to rename a long list of files under both Windows and Mac operating systems will likely agree that the Windows way is easier. --Michael Cullison"

    Well, pressing the 'Enter' key does precisely that.
  • by Wudbaer ( 48473 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:38AM (#17254700) Homepage
    Regarding the beachballing of death: Give your Mini a real harddisk if you still have the stock drive in it. The stock drive at least in the first series G4 MacMinis is an atrocity. Put in some faster 2.5'' drive and it will be a new machine (at least that did it for mine, before it was excruciatingly slow, now it is really fine).
  • Re:WTF ? No F2 ? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Divebus ( 860563 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:38AM (#17254706)
    Highlight the file/folder and hit return.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:39AM (#17254714)
    Renaming Isn't Easy. The process of renaming files is highly mouse-centric on the Mac. There's no F2 option (as there is on Windows) that lets you select the file and press F2 to expose the filename-editing mode. The mouse process requires very precisely timed mouse clicks. Anyone who has ever been forced to rename a long list of files under both Windows and Mac operating systems will likely agree that the Windows way is easier. --Michael Cullison

    Select the icon. Hit Return. Type. Done.

    . Backspace and Delete Keys. The world holds millions and millions of computers that have Backspace (delete left) and Delete (delete right) keys. Most editors and writers who've been exposed to Windows notebook keyboards that have both of those keys can tell you that moving to a Mac notebook that has only a Backspace key (called "Delete" on the Mac) can be frustrating. Yes, yes, we know that Fn-Delete performs a delete-right operation. But that's not a good solution for touch typists.

    Try Control-d. Most text input supports emacs key bindings (yes you can override this to use other bindings)
  • Oh f*** (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:44AM (#17254818)
    Out of all of these suggestions, about one or two actually made sense, but it's a freaking disaster that these geniuses trying to transform OSX into something that would most likely only fit THEMSELVES perfectly haven't thought about one very annoying aspect:

    Why the HELL doesn't the Finder allow the user to sort files with FOLDERS ON TOP, instead of mixing the cursed things in an unholy and undistinguishable mess together with files? It's completely messed up navigation, contanstly forcing the user to switch between Type-sorting and Name-sorting just to find what the user wants, instead of neat and tidy putting all the damn directories SEPARATELY.

    Idiots. Both the writers and the chumps at Apple.
  • by Recovering Hater ( 833107 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:44AM (#17254830)

    I realize that Apple designs these things for people who aren't familiar with computers, but fuck, it makes it hard for someone that is quite comfy with Linux and Windows configurations.

    Seriously, I'm not trying to troll, but Linux is not really like the flavor of unix Apple has built their OS up from. Maybe you could try delving into the way Darwin and FreeBSD organize their file system.

    Here are some links that might be a jumping off point:

    http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Co nceptual/KernelProgramming/BSD/chapter_11_section_ 3.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000905-CH214-TPXREF 103 [apple.com]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_sys tem) [wikipedia.org]

  • by eldepeche ( 854916 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:44AM (#17254832)
    It isn't a maximize button. The last time I owned a computer that primarily ran Windows was in 2001, so I'm used to it. I use the "Application -> Hide others" command to get rid of the clutter of other windows.
  • by Col. Klink (retired) ( 11632 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:49AM (#17254926)
    And that solves the whole "no date on the desktop" one - and probably some of the others too.
    Just run ical and today's date appears in the calendar icon.
  • by russellh ( 547685 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:52AM (#17254972) Homepage
    Might I recommend the book Mac OS X for Unix Geeks. Try the System Overview [apple.com] at Apple (that doc is a PDF so I linked to the search results instead). And check out Darwin guides [apple.com].
  • My list (Score:3, Informative)

    by also-rr ( 980579 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:53AM (#17254992) Homepage
    A while a go I posted my list [swifthost.co.uk] of things that I didn't like about OSX and I got some good responses that fixed [swifthost.co.uk] a few.

    The good news (for me) is that now Linux on powerbooks is very, very good [revis.co.uk] - not only do all the key things like wireless (with WPA), suspend, sound, 3d acceleration etc work perfectly but with Beryl installed it actually looks far better than OS X. I was sitting in an internet cafe yesterday and people were being awed by OS X... except it wasn't OS X at all. I said almost two years ago that Linux was catching up with OS X for look and feel... well, now it has. Even with Gnome apps mixed into a KDE desktop the behavior (thanks to an awful lot of work by the Kubuntu/Ubuntu guys) is more consistant across applications than anything you will find on OS X or Windows.

    Oh, and with MOL installed (so it's one button press to switch to/from full screen OS X almost as fast as on native hardware) there really are no downsides.
  • by varmittang ( 849469 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @10:57AM (#17255050)
    Or better yet, drag and drop the Applications folder to the right side of the dock, then right click on it and you will get a drop down menu like display of all the apps in the applications folder. That is what I do.
  • Drag the Applications folder into the Dock, next to the Trash can. (Be careful not to trash it!) You should get a shortcut on the Dock that's easy to access. The three ways are:

    1. Click on the icon to open the Applications folder.

    2. Right click to get a popup menu.

    3. Hold down the left button (or single button if you're using a stock mouse) until you get a popup menu.

    That's what I use, and it works exceptionally well.
  • by wumpus188 ( 657540 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:06AM (#17255224)
    No additional widgets required. Just open Terminal and do this

    defaults write com.apple.dashboard devmode YES

    After that, press F12 and start dragging widget.. then (while still dragging) press F12 again and drop widget on the desktop.
  • by mmkkbb ( 816035 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:16AM (#17255416) Homepage Journal
    Hold option while you click the zoom button, and the window goes up to full screen.
  • mostly whining. (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:17AM (#17255424)
    Just to comment on some of the points:
    First off, "Finder" does suck. It's an abomination. FTFF.

    15. Date display in the menu can be customized through the "International" > "Formats" pref pane.

    14. Widgets can be placed on the "Desktop" by enabling 'devmode'

    11. Windows in OS X - current OS X is idiotic. System 9 made sense - drag by any edge, resize by the corner, double-click the menubar to "windowshade" in place - once to peek behind a window, and again, without moving the mouse to put put the window back. Now, most windows can only be moved by the menubar - if you have a screen full of overlapping windows, all of the "moveable" regions are clustered at the top of the screen where they are most likely to overlap. Double-clicking a menubar minimizes windows to the "Dock", but then you have to move the mouse all the way there to put it back. idiotic all around.

    10. Stick a folder of app aliases in the "Dock" like everyone is already doing to access your second tier apps.

    9. My "delete" key on my standard Mac keyboard (Canadian layout) deletes right so what's the problem? For Cocoa apps, ctrl-d works too.

    meh, most of the rest sounds like whining from the author of the article.
  • by Senjutsu ( 614542 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:17AM (#17255426)
    I guess this specific one is "reader-contributed", but it's still increadibly daft:

    2. Renaming Isn't Easy. The process of renaming files is highly mouse-centric on the Mac. There's no F2 option (as there is on Windows) that lets you select the file and press F2 to expose the filename-editing mode. The mouse process requires very precisely timed mouse clicks. Anyone who has ever been forced to rename a long list of files under both Windows and Mac operating systems will likely agree that the Windows way is easier. --Michael Cullison

    Hey Mike - arrow key until the file you want to rename is hilighted - and push enter. Wooooooo, scary hard.
  • Re:Window Management (Score:5, Informative)

    by Rocketship Underpant ( 804162 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:25AM (#17255572)
    I find this is mostly a complaint either from those who haven't quite gotten how the Mac UI works yet, or people who are using poorly-designed apps.

    Why, in general, do we even need to resize windows? The answer, 90% of the time, is that the window is the wrong size or shape for its contents. That's what the green "optimize" button is for -- to resize the window automatically to the same size as its contents, and properly implemented, this does just what you want. With Safari, it makes my web browser just wide enough to view the current page without scrolling, and tall enough to show all or as much of the page as possible. With Pages, it resizes the document window to fit the exact size of the document at its current zoom level. I practically never need to resize these windows.

    The problem comes mainly with apps that haven't implemented the optimize button properly. The list of offenders includes Camino and all those expensive turds Adobe sells (which break almost all the rules of OS X consistency).

  • by Bastian ( 66383 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:26AM (#17255598)
    a. Apple is secretive by nature
    Apple tends to be secretive about a lot of its stuff, but in the ramp-up to a new release of OS X they always get into bragging a LOT. Developer feature previews and what not are plastered all over Apple's website. I have NEVER seen an example of Apple waiting until launch date to unveil a "key technology" in their OS.

    b. Leopard is still very early in development

    Huh? Apple has already shipped more than one 10.5 developer preview so far. I believe they have a lot of folks in Cupertino already shifted over to it (as a beta test), and it's slated to come out sometime this spring. They first announced it to people over a year ago, so they've probably been working on it for at least two years. That is not early development.
  • by ptomblin ( 1378 ) <ptomblin@xcski.com> on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:32AM (#17255708) Homepage Journal
    Point 12: They seem to be complaining about how hard it is to find individual windows for an application. Haven't they seen Expose? No? How about splat-` to cycle through the windows of the current application?

    Point 10: It's awkward to find applications too rare to put on the dock? I dragged my Applications folder to the dock as a folder. If I mouse over to it, I get a drop down menu of every app in the whole folder. Or I can double click on it to open the folder. Or I can go to Spotlight and type the first couple of letters of the application name and have it find the app very quickly.

    User Point 3: The Apple mouse doesn't have three buttons. I spent a whole $9 for a Logitech optical wheel mouse, and all the buttons (including the scroll wheel) work just fine with no configuration.
  • by operagost ( 62405 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:38AM (#17255804) Homepage Journal
    What's the fullscreen button? Windows has minimize, maximize/restore, and close buttons. Do you mean fullscreen mode in Media Player? If you want your media player to fill everything except the task bar, then just use the Maximize button instead of fullscreen. If the maximize button is taking the entire screen, it's because you have your task bar set to auto-hide. That's by design.
  • by Thumper_SVX ( 239525 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:38AM (#17255826) Homepage
    And your average user is going to use locate... when? When they launch that command prompt that most OSX users don't even know exists? Sorry, doesn't fly. In the GUI you have Spotlight... that's essentially doing the same job for average Joe User.

    Oh, so YOU want locate? Well, since you obviously know it exists and what it does you must be a power user... therefore you should either know how to enable the database maintenance or put a little effort into a two minute Google search to find the answer.

    Your objections don't stand up. Remember, OSX is made for the average user... if you want your power tools that'll get you UNIX functionality you need to put in a little more work. However, that amount of work is still significantly less than your average UNIX requires to be user-friendly.

    Oh, and in response to the GGP, you've obviously never used an flavor of UNIX other than Linux. Linux is NOT UNIX despite what some might want to tell you. It's inspired by UNIX but doesn't follow many of the forms that became common in true UNIX platforms. OSX is closer to BSD than Linux is, and as such I'm quite comfy in that environment having cut my teeth on NetBSD, FreeBSD and AT&T UNIX (yes, the real deal). Just because nothing is where you expect it coming from a hobbyist UNIX platform, doesn't mean it's automatically wrong. In fact, OSX has more in common with most commercial UNIX's (Unices?) than Linux will ever have. As a result, I think it's a better UNIX.

    Just as an aside, is it wrong for Apple to make X11 an optional install that runs after the main GUI? No, because that's what OSX does. The average user doesn't need or want X11... and if you want or need X11 you're a power user almost by default. As such, you should be comfortable with installing it. If you really want to make OSX more Linux-like, download Fink and start installing some more GPL tools... I am a power user, and I'm glad I put in the extra work to learn OSX properly. I've used OS/2, Windows (since 2.0 and up to and including Vista), Mac (from the original MacOS to OSX), GEM, Linux, UNIX (various), AmigaOS, OS/400, S/36, and quite a number of embedded and RTOS's. I have to say that for me, OSX fits the bill. It does everything I want it to, very little that I don't. It's not perfect, but no OS has ever been perfect. I use it because it just works... because I can get my work done. I can tinker with the internals if I want to, but I rarely have to.

    And by the way, app bundles are the bomb. Sure, they use a little more disk space... but disk space is cheap. Think of your applications as a folder (which they literally are in the UNIX filesystem) that contain all of the stuff you need to run the app including configs in some apps. Right click on an app and Show Package Contents sometime... it's quite educational. And download the dev packages and learn something about the OS. Even if you have no intention of developing software, the development kit is incredibly deep and will teach you more about the OS than you ever thought possible.
  • by trudyscousin ( 258684 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:40AM (#17255858)
    If Enter renames files, how do you open a file without the mouse?

    Command-O. (i.e., the key with the cloverleaf and Apple symbol)
  • by Drizzt Do'Urden ( 226671 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:43AM (#17255894) Homepage
    Apple had that behavior before Windows went mainstream, and before Gnome, KDE and whatever copied Windows.

    The behavior you want doesn't make as much sense in OS X. I mean, why make the window bigger if it is to show more whitespace and keep you from dragging content to/from an other Window?
  • by wumpus188 ( 657540 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:49AM (#17256002)
    System Preferences -> Keyboard&Mouse -> Keyboard shortcuts -> Full keyboard access -> All controls
  • by Drizzt Do'Urden ( 226671 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:52AM (#17256052) Homepage
    Better 100$ than 500$..

    Now, who said macs where more expensive? :P
  • by GraZZ ( 9716 ) <jack&jackmaninov,ca> on Friday December 15, 2006 @11:59AM (#17256188) Homepage Journal
    If your app has a properly implemented Window menu, all its windows will be listed in there.

    I can't tell if the writer is unhappy that you can't do this on the Dock without the context menu or if he thinks that context menu on the Dock is the only way to get a list of windows. It isn't.

    Also learning the keyboard shortcut Cmd-` (beside 1) to switch between an app's windows is your friend.
  • by the phantom ( 107624 ) * on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:03PM (#17256288) Homepage
    Command-O or Command-DownArrow.
  • by WillAdams ( 45638 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:04PM (#17256302) Homepage
    Depends on the application and the framework it was programmed in.

    Works in Cocoa apps such as CyberDuck and TeXshop.

    Doesn't work in TextWrangler

    Does weird things in Finder, esp. on a multiple monitor machine

    Sort of works for Safari

    All of which is a good argument for why Apple shouldn't've knuckled in to Microsoft and Adobe and should've stuck w/ their Rhapsody plan and never have wasted time on the foetid mess which is Carbon.

    William
    (who wants TIFFany instead of PhotoShop, Altsys Virtuoso instead of FreeHand or Illustrator and thinks that PasteUp could've been as good as InDesign and that FrameMaker would still be available on Macs if we'd had Rhapsody)
  • by osu-neko ( 2604 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:11PM (#17256402)
    The button in question does exactly what you want in both of those cases.
  • Re:WTF ? No F2 ? (Score:2, Informative)

    by my_breath_smells ( 762618 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:23PM (#17256646)
    CMD + down arrow (apple + down arrow) will open the highlighted file or app
  • by Keith Russell ( 4440 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:25PM (#17256690) Journal

    If you're looking for a cheaper alternative, get an external Firewire enclosure and throw any 3.5" 7200 RPM hard drive you like in it. That did wonders for my G4 mini's speed, I was able to reuse an old drive from my PC, and it's easier than trying to pry a mini open with a putty knife.

  • Re:CLI (Score:4, Informative)

    by Llywelyn ( 531070 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:36PM (#17256932) Homepage
    ...just drag the file in question into the terminal and it will conveniently pop up your answer.

  • by 94229a ( 742530 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:37PM (#17256956)
    The parent is referring to the "maximize" button.

    On Windows, pressing the maximize button, maximizes the window so that it takes up the entire screen (well, except for the task bar as you mention).

    On Macintosh, there is a button called zoom. It resizes the window to show all the contents of the window. In some cases, this is (considerably) smaller than the entire screen.

    The problem is that Windows Users (and apparently Linux Users) expect the zoom button (on the Mac) to take up the entire screen, so that it hides all other open windows. it doesn't do that.

    Conversely, when Mac users use Windows, the maximize button really isn't what they want. They want to make the window bigger, but the don't want to obscure other windows, because they still want to see and use content from the other windows.

    Both implementations have their uses. The confusion lies when you try and work in multiple environments and expect the same functionality.
  • by spasm ( 79260 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @12:48PM (#17257168) Homepage
    spotlight is amazing for finding files in your home directory but close to useless for finding system files (one of the OP's main complaints). as a simple example, try finding where apple has put the 'whoami' bin using spotlight. on my machine, spotlight finds 41 files (mostly random .h files) but not the executable itself. locate happily spits out:

    172:~ pete$ locate whoami /usr/bin/ldapwhoami /usr/bin/whoami /usr/sbin/bpwhoami /usr/share/man/man1/bpwhoami.1 /usr/share/man/man1/ldapwhoami.1 /usr/share/man/man1/whoami.1
    172:~ pete$

    I love spotlight, but I'd love it even more if I knew how to tell it to index the whole machine..
  • by MoneyT ( 548795 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @01:17PM (#17257662) Journal
    Then set it once. The maximize button toggles between two window settings, user defined (although sometimes this means last size on last close) and fit-to-content. So, for example, by default, my terminal window opens as a little window rather than full size. The first time I opened it, I made it full sized. Now every time I open terminal, when I click maximize, it returns it to my previously defined full size.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 15, 2006 @01:17PM (#17257664)
    Apple+Tab reveals an application switcher not a window switcher. Thus, selecting an app brings the application to the front. Any unminimzed windows for that application will also be brought to the front. Minimized windows for that application will not. In my case, I keep multiple documents open in Word, but minimize a couple I'm not working on at that moment. If I apple-tab to Safari to copy some text and then apple-tab back to Word to paste the text, I do not want my minimized documents to suddenly appear.
  • #15 - MenuCalendarClock, or a variety of other similar programs.

    #14 - Konfabulator/Yahoo Widgets or Amnesty. I use Konf/Yahoo Widgets. The problem with Amnesty is that Dashbord widgets are CPU hogs. Putting them in their own layer means you don't have to care because they're only running a small part of the time.

    #13 - I've used a combination of applications working together to make the middle mouse button bring up the window menus as a context menu, but Apple should ABSOLUTELY make contextual menus available from the menu bar the way Services are, and make the main menus and Services available with contextual menus. There's five places that are close to the mouse under Fitt's Law, and the fifth is... where the mouse is right now. :)

    #12 - The Dock needs a lot more work than this. In NeXTstep the Shelf (the equivalent of the right half of the Dock) was a real place... you could drag documents into it and out again, so that it provided an intermediate place to "pause" a drag and drop operation while you shuffled windows. The "Poof" is cute, but it's a bad user interface design... if you want to trash a Docked object, the trash is right there.

    I use XShelf for this.

    #11 - If anyone knows of software that fixes this, I would love to hear of it.

    #10 - I used to use third party apps, but now I just have a folder containing aliases pointing to the system and personal application folders, and certain places in the Library, in the Dock. And, yes, this could be made a lot better.

    #9 - "The rest of the world long since accepted that IBM makes the best keyboards" - Indeed. I would dearly love to be running OS X on a Thinkpad instead of a Macbook, mostly for this very reason. (Yes, I know that's Lenovo now, but the principle's still valid)

    #8 - CUPS MUST DIE

    #7 - The low level user interface isn't even internally consistent on the Mac. Every application has its own UI for configuring hotkeys - this should be a single "hotkeys and input" item in the Preferences, that lets you assign ANY key or corner combination to any application using the new "input manager" they create to implement this.

    #6 - There's a million apps for this, and none should need to exist. Plus... laptop fan controls, keyboard illumination, sleep/hibernate behaviour, and all the rest of the laptop configuration crap that you shouldn't haveto deal with but in the real world you all too often do.

    #5, #4, #3, #2, #1 - Finder is two separate programs that don't work well together. The old OS 9 Finder should be pulled out and restored fully for the benefit of the folks who like a spcial Finder, and the old NeXT File manager should be pulled out and restored fully for those of us who prefer a file browser.

    On the reader peeves:

    #1 - If I select shut down, and some application wants to know if I really want it to close, give me a window that says "yes, kill it and the rest of the pig-dogs, I WANT TO SHUT DOWN NOW". In fact that should be a button on the "shut down" dialog. "Cancel, Shutdown, Kill the pigdogs". Same with "sleep". And give me an option to go into safe sleep AND power off in a single operation (you could call it Hibernate :) ).

    #2 - It's in there. Almost. RETURN on a file SHOULD put you into edit on the file name. Except when it doesn't. See points #5 through #1 in the previous section. :)

    #3 - YES. Steve, old man, nobody kicked sand in your face for putting two buttons on the NeXT mouse. It's time to give up on this whole passive-aggressive single-button-mouse thing. See also "putting OS X on a Thinkpad". You got IBM japan to help you out on one of the Powerbooks (3400, I think)... you can do it again. Nobody will call you a wuss.
  • by prichardson ( 603676 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @01:53PM (#17258252) Journal
    If you're pin-wheeling a lot, I recommend opening up Activity Monitor (in /Applications/Utilities), a GUI front-end for top and see what's running. If you prefer just running top, fire up the terminal and do so. If it's the same process that's causing you to hang (applications that aren't responding are listed in red), then do some investigating about that process. As much as I hate to say it, you might have just gotten a wonky install, and backing up and reinstalling might work some of this out. There's an "archive and install" option on the install disk that does that pretty well for you.

    I'm a big fan of MenuMeters ( http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/ [ragingmenace.com] ) for showing different loads on my system.

    Also, Apple's website has a huge knowledge base about all the internals of the system. There's a good amount on specific differences between what they do and general linux principals.
  • Re:Window Management (Score:3, Informative)

    by The One and Only ( 691315 ) <[ten.hclewlihp] [ta] [lihp]> on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:30PM (#17258758) Homepage
    Because in Windows, maximizing is a useful (necessary) task that you always have to do, so putting it in a button makes sense there. This is not true of Mac OS X.
  • by MouseR ( 3264 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:35PM (#17258822) Homepage
    The zoom button is actually controlled by the application and not the Window Manager. This is why you have different behavior depending on the application your running.

    This was particularly true for true-Carbon applications. MetroWerks' PowerPlant Carbon framework, used by many applications (still today) kinda standardize the actual behavior and Cocoa under OS X also makes this somewhat more predictable.

    But applications can still control the size they can zoom to.

    This is why you wont find a system-wide switch to control this behavior.
  • Re:Window Management (Score:5, Informative)

    by JonathanBoyd ( 644397 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @02:44PM (#17258982) Homepage
    Something you might find useful: Holding down command while clicking on a background window often lets you manipulate it without activating the window. E.g. in Safari, if I'm reading one window and want to check a detail in another while keeping my current one in front, I can drag the background scrollbar (or click on the arrows) while holding command and it will scroll without moving to the front. If I'm reading in Safari and want to check my mail without switching to Mail, I can just command click on the 'Get Mail' button and it will check in the background, leaving my Safari window on top. You can even drag windows about in the background using this method. One note though: if you command click on a link in a background window, it'll open in a new tab in the foreground window, though this can be advantageous at times, particularly if you use different windows for different categories of tabs.
  • by Hes Nikke ( 237581 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @03:09PM (#17259368) Journal
    if you drop the slow, bloated crap that is now called Adobe Reader, and instead used Preview, you can just hit cmd-f to enter full screen mode.
  • by tetsuo29 ( 612440 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @03:25PM (#17259642)

    I'm pretty much a total mac fanboy, but I have to concede this point. I never tried multiple monitors on a Mac until a few years ago when I got my first iBook and discovered that a simple firmware adjustment was all that was needed in order to allow spanning instead of mirroring when hooking up an external monitor. I was really excited at first, but soon learned how annoying it is to have the menu bar only available on one of the screens- especially when you want to have one app running on one screen and another on the other.

    For single monitors, I still believe that the stationary menu bar at the top of the screen is a superior UI. If you don't believe this, you need to spend some time observing how many users of Windows/Linux keep every window maximized- they are in effect simulating the stationary menu bar effect. However, for multiple monitors, the menu bar in the window paradigm of Windows/X11 is currently better. I think that Apple could easily fix this by having the Mac's menu bar move from screen to screen with the mouse. They could even make it's appearance 'ghosted' on the screens where the mouse currently is not. Placing a menu bar on each screen would then allow different apps to be in the foreground on different monitors. I've made suggestions along these lines on the OS X feedback page, but, sadly they have yet to realize the brilliance of what I'm telling them. ;-]

    I have a feeling that they've concluded that there is not enough multiple monitor use to warrant spending time coming up with a more elegant solution.

  • by pesc ( 147035 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @04:09PM (#17260336)
    Coming from windows or linux, I'd never have thought to try this.

    You could open the Help window and search for "rename file" and learnt the shortcut.

    But coming from windows or linux, you probably wouldn't have thought about that either! ;-)

    The help texts are actually very useful on OS X.
  • by ciggieposeur ( 715798 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @04:25PM (#17260600)
    You installed Linux and it automagically recognised all you USB peripherals,

    Yes.

    it installed nice drivers for your printer (no, I'm not talking about those crapy GIMP drivers)

    The printer was a network printer, so I had to tell CUPS what IP it was on and what make it was. After that, yes it worked well.

    and it also configured 3D acceleration to your graphic card.

    I had to download the nVidia driver myself, exit X, and run the installer. After that it worked well.

    You didn't had to configure fstab to mount your windows or other external partitions,

    The Debian installer found all the other partitions and asked which ones to put in fstab.

    nor to configure your bluethoot device, and you TV card worked right out of the box ... yeah, right.

    Don't have those, so I don't know.

    Also:

    * My sound card and modem were autodetected at boot time and setup correctly.

    * DVDs play right out of the box with Kaffeine. (No need to install a DVD codec like Windows.)

    * K3b located my CD and DVD burners automatically.

    None of these required messing with stuff in /etc .
  • by jZnat ( 793348 ) * on Friday December 15, 2006 @06:17PM (#17262296) Homepage Journal
    Press F11 to hide everything...
  • by Yer Mom ( 78107 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @06:51PM (#17262712) Homepage
    if you drop the slow, bloated crap that is now called Adobe Reader, and instead used Preview, you can just hit cmd-f to enter full screen mode.

    Are you sure about that? Cmd-F is Find on mine...

    Agree about Adobe Reader, though :)

  • by macron1 ( 971968 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @07:49PM (#17263290)
    the terminal entry is not even required, just activate the dashboard, then click that "+" thing in a circle that reveals all the widgets available on your mac. Then click and hold any widget and drag it out of that widgets list, and then press F12 to deactivate the dashboard while still holding on to the widget. you should then be able to drop the widget on to your desktop. next time you activate the dashboard, your desktop widget will be subsumed into the actual dashboard thingamagig. good times
  • by SideshowBob ( 82333 ) on Friday December 15, 2006 @08:38PM (#17263758)
    For Preview.app's fullscreen mode.

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