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iTMS Moving Up The Sales Charts 185

Kyusaku Natsume writes "According to the NPD Group, Apple's iTunes Music Store has sold more music than Tower Records and Borders in the U.S., based on sales and download figures for July, August, and September." From the article: "At seventh equal in the chart was iTunes, up seven places on the same period last year. Both Tower Records and Borders slipped a place to seven and nine respectively. Russ Crupnick, music and movies industry analyst for NPD, said he would not be surprised if iTunes was to continue to climb the charts, especially in the run-up to Christmas when iPods are high on many present lists."
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iTMS Moving Up The Sales Charts

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  • Chipmunks (Score:4, Informative)

    by aedan ( 196243 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @06:37AM (#14118019) Homepage
    Well my kids enjoy the Chipmunks I got last week and I couldn't find it in a normal shop.

    aedan
  • Re:Good news (Score:3, Informative)

    by Adelle ( 851961 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @07:39AM (#14118153)
    Um, didn't Sony promise to replace all our damaged CDs as part of their case against a Playstation modder in Europe.

    Part of their argument as to why there is no legitimate reason to play burnt CDs, was that the publisher will replace any CDs that get damaged, so there is no need to keep a back-up, (and therefore, no need to mod one's playstation to enable the use of such back-ups).

  • <pedantic> (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 26, 2005 @07:49AM (#14118173)
    Here is the press release [npd.com] by the NPD Group (those who did the study).
    In Q3, the top 10 retailers were as follows (note: numbers within parentheses denote retailer unit-sales position in Q3 2004):

    1. Wal-Mart (1)
    2. Best Buy (2)
    3. Target (3)
    4. Amazon.com (4)
    5. FYE (10)
    6. Circuit City (Tied for 5)
    7. Apple\iTunes (14)
    8. Tower Records (Tied for 7)
    9. Sam Goody (Tied for 5)
    10. Borders (9)
    This clearly has iTunes at position 7, Tower records at 8 (at 7 last year), and Borders at 10 (at 9 last year). Yet the Guardian says: "Both Tower Records and Borders slipped a place to seven and nine respectively." (No, that's from seven and nine).

    I'm also somewhat hesitant about accepting these figures. Online, CDBaby [cdbaby.com] nearly outsells Amazon.com, yet it's nowhere to be seen in this chart. It is of course always possible that they're at position 11 or thereabouts (Hey Derek: you reading? Any idea?), but likewise it wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd been completely disregarded, given that they only sell independent artists...
  • by iReflect ( 215501 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @07:55AM (#14118188) Homepage
    cdbaby.net/dd [cdbaby.net]
  • Re:Good news (Score:5, Informative)

    by jrockway ( 229604 ) * <jon-nospam@jrock.us> on Saturday November 26, 2005 @08:44AM (#14118282) Homepage Journal
    Something similar happened to me. I mailed Apple and they let me redownload anything (and added something to the effect of, "don't do this again").

    Did you even think to e-mail Apple after they wiped out $400, or did you just make up the story and the whine on slashdot?
  • Re:Good news (Score:5, Informative)

    by gnasher719 ( 869701 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @09:25AM (#14118373)
    >> Sure my old library was there but it was drmed and grayed out. I tried to remerge and set myself as teh new owner of the ipod since I tried all options. Itunes deleted about $400 worth of music and wiped my whole collection clean. :-(

    Oh well, you should have asked someone who knows how to use a computer first.

    Here is how it works: Step 1: Make copies of your songs on data CDs or data DVDs. Doesn't matter that they are DRM'd, you can copy the files without any problems, you just can't _play_ them on a different computer. Step 2: Unregister your computer with iTMS (not fatal if you forget this step). Step 3: Reformat your system (since that is what you were doing anyway). Step 4: Copy all the DRM'd files back to your computer. Step 5: Register that computer again with iTMS if needed. Step 6: Should you run out of registrations (you can register five computers), tell Apple to unregister _all_ your computers, then go back to Step 4.
  • Re:Good news (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 26, 2005 @09:48AM (#14118419)
    You've obviously never sampled iTunes offerings. I am an almost exclusive headphone user. Pretty much all of the 128-192k MP3s floating around various sites and networks are next to crap, definitely not worth paying money for. iTunes uses high-quality AAC, not MP3. While I will never claim the AACs to be indistinguishable from a CD or DVD-Audio (someone will always be able to pick out something, given enough time), they definitively cannot be described as "low-quality".
  • Re: ITMS? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jupix ( 916634 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @10:32AM (#14118541)

    iTunes Music Store.

  • Re: ITMS? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Erik K. Veland ( 574016 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @10:49AM (#14118601) Homepage
    It's for separating the player and the store. iTunes has been around for at least four years before they added a music store to it :p
  • Re:Good news (Score:5, Informative)

    by the_Pnut ( 894120 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @11:05AM (#14118653)
    Have you ever tried this?

    I called the tech support number on iTunes and told them that the hard drive on my computer failed, and that I lost all my songs. The lady I talked to spent 5 minutes with me "refreshing" my account. At the end I opened iTunes, clicked on advanced-> check for purchases, and then all of the songs I had bought from iTunes re-downloaded. That didn't help for all the songs I had that I did not buy from iTunes, but apple was very easy to deal with, and allowed me to "re-own" the music I had bought from them. Now I run a back up script every week, cause it's just easier, but apple definitely lets to download your music again if you wish too.

    Also, if you want something more "concrete" you can burn from apple's lossless format to a CD, and then put the CD in your rack.

  • Re:Good news (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 26, 2005 @11:11AM (#14118673)
    1. Creating new library doesn't delete files, just references to them and your playlists.

    2. If by DRMed and greyed out you mean on your iPod and not lost and gone forever

    3. Reformatting your computer is a complicated process. If you can't figure out the complicated process of restoring your iTunes library (iTunes never deletes files unless you tell it to), then you shouldn't have been able to get to that point to begin with.
  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @01:27PM (#14119205) Homepage
    Here's the actual list [npd.com], with last year's ranking in parentheses:
    1. Wal-Mart (1)
    2. Best Buy (2)
    3. Target (3)
    4. Amazon.com (4)
    5. FYE (10)
    6. Circuit City (Tied for 5)
    7. Apple\iTunes (14)
    8. Tower Records (Tied for 7)
    9. Sam Goody (Tied for 5)
    10. Borders (9)

    This list has some tough implications for the RIAA and its members. None of the top four companies gets most of its revenue from music. They're all very strong companies used to telling their suppliers what prices they want to see. The classic "record store" chains, Tower and Sam Goody, are falling off the list.

    Some of the changes just reflect consolidation in the record store industry. FYE [fye.com] is a classic "record store" chain. It's really Trans World Entertainment [twec.com], the result of mergers between Wherehouse, Record Town, Camelot Music, and Strawberries. Stores in malls carry the FYE brand ("offering a consistent mall-based retailing experience"), while freestanding stores bear the names Wherehouse Music, Coconuts Music & Movies, Strawberries, Spec's, CD World, Streetside Records and Planet Music.

    Also, don't forget that Wal-Mart sells music on-line. [walmart.com] Even if the RIAA can bully Apple into raising the song price for iPods, that's not going to work with Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart just won't tolerate suppliers increasing their prices. They'll find other suppliers. Note the growing list of "Wal-Mart exclusives".

  • by Blakey Rat ( 99501 ) on Saturday November 26, 2005 @04:32PM (#14119998)
    Not to mention that iTunes *constantly* bothers you to back up, and makes back ups brain-dead simple. (You can just set the CD burning to "music files", hit select all, and hit burn. It'll fill each CD/DVD with as many tracks as fit and ask for the next one in turn. Or, even easier, just copy your ~/music/itunes directory onto an external HD or DVD.
  • by aristotle-dude ( 626586 ) on Sunday November 27, 2005 @12:16AM (#14122074)
    What are you talking about? CDbaby is how independent bands without a record deal get on iTMS.
  • by ursabear ( 818651 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @11:55PM (#14163389) Homepage Journal
    I think it is critical to understand the impact ITMS is having on the music world.

    Even less-than-mediocre artists such as myself have a shot at distribution on ITMS. Apple only appears to discriminate for things that are going on main pages - based on business logic (that which sells goes up front).

    Most of the folks I know buy physical CDs for gifts, or for really important CDs for a collection (such as I Robot or Dark Side Of The Moon). However, the folks I know seem to be buying electronically for new sounds, things they haven't thought of buying before, or more importantly, when they like only one tune of a given artist from an album (and dislike the rest of the tunes).

    And, it isn't so bad that for the hundred or so song sales I've had, Apple has only taken out a few cents per song download and CD Baby has only taken out a few cents per song download.

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