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Apple Unveils New Pro Products 590

porcupine8 writes "As many had speculated, today Apple unveiled upgrades to their PowerBook and Power Mac lines (although no PowerBook G5). They also introduced a new professional photography application known as Aperture, rounding out their software lineup for creative professionals. Can't wait to find out what they announce next week!"
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  • by Tumbleweed ( 3706 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:23PM (#13829433)
    So the dual-core G5 finally arrived (with the top end machine having 2 of them), plus PCIe and 533MHz DDR2. I expected PCIe, but didn't expect DDR2. This is a very nice transition machine to wait for the Intel Macs.

    Things to note:

    All nVidia videocards, now -- one of which is a Quadro FX 4500 for $1650. Nice knowin' ya, ATI, don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.

    "In addition to the 16-lane graphics slot, the Power Mac G5 features three PCI Express expansion slots: two four-lane slots and one eight-lane slot. Each slot uses a standard connector that can accommodate a card of any size."

    This mobo has better PCIe support than any other mobo I've heard about, by _far_. Crazy. 2 x4 slots and an x8? The new Fibre Channel Card seems to be an x4 PCIe, which is the first x4 card I've heard of. There are hardly any x1 cards, yet, either, and PCIe has been out quite a while.

    Dual gigabit ethernet now, too, instead of just single. (they were just single before, right?)

    The optional modem is now an external USB dongle style model, instead of an internal card. The end of an era. Good riddance.

    I guess Apple finally stepped into the 'future.' :)

    The bad:

    Only SATA '1', no 'SATA2' (no such thing, really, but...).

    Still only 2 internal HDs? C'mon - these are supposed to be workstations, Apple. Get with it.
    I wants my internal RAID 10!

    I'm definitely waiting for the Intel Macs, but for those who are opposed to the idea of an Intel Mac, these machines are about as sweet as one could ask for. The low-end PowerMac is now a 2gHz dual-core G5, which is pretty nice (and meets the recommended specs for their new application, Aperture, as long as you upgrade the hell out of the RAM).
  • Details (Score:5, Informative)

    by daveschroeder ( 516195 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:24PM (#13829443)
    As usual, the submission leaves out critical details.

    The new Power Mac G5 [apple.com] highlights include dual core G5 processors [apple.com] (IBM PowerPC 970MP [com.com]), PCI Express [apple.com], DDR2 RAM, and dual gigabit ethernet on all models:

    Single 2.0, single 2.3, or dual 2.5 GHz dual-core IBM PowerPC 970MP (G5) processor
    1.0, 1.15, or 1.25 GHz frontside bus per processor
    512MB PC2-4200 DDR2 RAM, expandable to 16GB
    160GB or 250GB Serial ATA drive
    16x dual layer CD-RW/DVD+/-RW SuperDrive
    Three open PCI Express expansion slots: two four-lane slots and one eight-lane slot
    NVIDIA GeForce 6600, 6600 LE, 7800 GT, or Quadro FX 4500 video
    Dual gigabit ethernet
    USB 2.0, FireWire 400 (IEEE-1394), FireWire 800 (IEEE-1394b)
    AirPort Extreme (802.11g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
    Analog and optical digital audio in and out
    Mighty Mouse (Two button scroll mouse)

    The new PowerBook [apple.com] highlights include higher resolution screens, longer battery life, and standard SuperDrives:

    1.67 GHz Freescale PowerPC 7458[1] (G4) processor, 512MB PC2700 DDR RAM, expandable to 2GB, 80GB or 120GB Ultra ATA/100 drive
    8x dual layer CD-RW/DVD+/-RW SuperDrive
    1440x960 (15") or 1680x1050 (17") resolution screen
    ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 128MB DDR SDRAM and dual-link DVI (supports 30" display)
    Gigabit ethernet, 56K V.92 modem, PC Card slot
    USB 2.0, FireWire 400 (IEEE-1394), FireWire 800 (IEEE-1394b)
    AirPort Extreme (802.11g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
    Illuminated keyboard
    Analog and optical digital audio in and out
    DVI/VGA/composite/S-Video out

    Also new is the amazing pro photography software Aperture [apple.com], as well as new lower pricing on Apple Displays [apple.com].

    I might as well send my writeup on last week's announcements as well, since the submission (and discussion) there were really light on info too...

    ---

    iMac G5 [apple.com]

    A new, even thinner, iMac G5 with an integrated 640x480 iSight camera and integrated media center software called Front Row.

    1.9 or 2.1 GHz IBM PowerPC 970fx (G5) processor
    512MB PC2-4200 RAM, expandable to 2.5GB
    160GB or 250GB Serial ATA drive
    8x dual layer CD-RW/DVD+/-RW SuperDrive
    ATI Radeon X600 Pro or XT PCI-Express video
    Gigabit ethernet, USB 2.0, FireWire 400 (IEEE-1394)
    AirPort Extreme (802.11g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
    1/8" stereo audio or optical out, 1/8" line in
    VGA/composite/S-Video out
    Mighty Mouse (Two button scroll mouse)

    The inclusion of PCI-Express and PC2-4200 RAM in the new iMac bodes well for the upcoming updates to the Power Macs and PowerBooks.

    ---

    Front Row [apple.com]

    Media center software currently only included with the iMac G5. Allows for seamless interface with music, movies, movie trailers, pictures, TV shows, and so on via either the iMac's screen or an external screen such as a projector or TV. Includes an infrared remote control. A demonstration of Front Row is available here [apple.com].

    It is likely that Front Row will make its way to other products in the near future, such as the Mac mini. It is only available for the iMac G5 "at this time", according to Apple.

    The one feature of typical media centers that Front Row does not support is TV recording. But Apple seems to have a different idea for TV shows, as will be seen below. (However, TV recording can be accomplished with a wide variety of third party tuners.)

    ---

    iPod (iPod video) [apple.com]

    Apple introduced two new iPods to completely replace the existing "larger" iPods. The same height and width as the older i
  • Aperture info (Score:5, Informative)

    by dogmatixpsych ( 786818 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:24PM (#13829446) Journal
    Aperture is geared toward professional photographers. It allows you to work directly with RAW files (as well as many other file types). It is similar to Googles Picassa but on steroids. It doesnt look like it will compete with Photoshop though at this stage. It is more of a basic organization and editing program. It looks pretty slick but has some fairly hefty system requirements.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:26PM (#13829464)
    Dual gigabit ethernet now, too, instead of just single. (they were just single before, right?)

      Yes.
  • by 8127972 ( 73495 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:28PM (#13829495)
    .... With all of these updates, the 12" PowerBook Specs are exactly the same as before this announcement (that is it uses DDR333 RAM, has NVIDIA Go5200 64MB video, etc.) with the exception of the DVD-RW drive being standard.
  • Re:Apple displays (Score:4, Informative)

    by Wesley Felter ( 138342 ) <wesley@felter.org> on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:36PM (#13829585) Homepage
    Apple monitors use DVI. But be careful; the 30" is only compatible with a handful of video cards.
  • Re:Hmmm, (Score:3, Informative)

    by jedrek ( 79264 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:38PM (#13829613) Homepage
    It's a different piece of software. The most similar thing I can find is Capture One [phaseone.com] which is in exactly the same price category with a much shorter feature list. This is pro software for photo professionals. If its organizational tools (and that really is a possibility) save a pro 5 hours (at $100/h) of work or a single reshoot, it'll be worth it.
  • Re:Apple displays (Score:2, Informative)

    by dogfriend ( 609723 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:39PM (#13829637)
    All of the new displays use DVI. They haven't used ADC connections for awhile now. http://www.apple.com/displays/digital.html [apple.com]
  • Re:Price? (Score:5, Informative)

    by CrawlingEvil ( 750859 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:39PM (#13829638) Homepage

    Go to the Apple Store [apple.com] and look on the opening page. Near the bottom on the right hand side you'll see a red "Sale" tag. Click that and then scroll down about 2/5 the way down the page.

    In general, this is where Apple sells over stock and refurbished machines. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell the difference, but whether refurbished or old stock, they come with the same warrantees. No, they don't really advertise these in proud, bold print accross the front page of the store, as they want to sell new machines, but they're there for the buying, if you know where to look.

  • by daveschroeder ( 516195 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:41PM (#13829660)
    All nVidia videocards, now -- one of which is a Quadro FX 4500 for $1650. Nice knowin' ya, ATI, don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.

    ...except that the new iMac, introduced just a week ago, uses ATI Radeon X600 and X600 XT PCI Express graphics.

    They're not all the way out of the door yet. ;-)

  • by happyemoticon ( 543015 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:45PM (#13829705) Homepage

    This is the first I heard of it, but when I was going to play around with the new pricing options, I noticed that the 30" display was $2499 instead of 3 grand. I'm pretty sure it was 3 grand a week ago.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:46PM (#13829706)
    it's 'wary', not 'weary'. weary means tired of.
  • by tktk ( 540564 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:50PM (#13829757)
    Well, not exactly...the price got lowered. $1499 used to be the price of a 12" with only the combo drive. Now for $1499 you get the Superdrive. I think it's a $200 price drop.
  • by lxt ( 724570 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:55PM (#13829812) Journal
    Finale does have a competitor. It's called Sibelius. It's the standard in Europe - it's designed by *musicians*, not software engineers, and the UI is a godsend compared to Finale. Having just moved to states and been forced to use Finale, I have one piece of advice - get Sibelius. The simple reason Apple won't release a Finale competitor is that Sibelius always does a pretty good job.
  • by Tumbleweed ( 3706 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:58PM (#13829842)
    Not quite - I was saying (incorrectly) that the new systems meet the recommended requirements, but he caught me on the videocard business. You're listing the minimum requirements. So, you're wrong. So there! Victory is mine! (until someone spots some other error I made *sigh*)

    Either way, I think we're all agreed that Aperture _really_ wants some hefty hardware to do it's thang, which shouldn't be surprising considering how much data it needs to move around to do what it does. Can't wait to try it out at an Apple store when it's released -- the Apple store says shipping in 6-8 weeks.

    I'd not want to run this thing on the minimum specs, but I bet one could squeak by pretty easily without the hefty videocard as long as you have the memory and something near the CPU power required (dual 1.8s would likely be more than fine, especially if you have 2GB RAM).
  • Re:Details (Score:4, Informative)

    by daveschroeder ( 516195 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @03:59PM (#13829847)
    If you're still within the return period on that display (wherever you bought it from, which you hopefully should be if it's only 2 weeks), I'd either:

    1.) Get a price adjustment, or

    2.) "Return" it, after all it's still within the return period, right? (assuming it is); then, re-buy it
  • by Drakino ( 10965 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:02PM (#13829875) Journal
    Mac monitors haven't been 1 printed point = 1 display pixel for a long time. It was a big deal back when the first Mac came out with a 72 dpi screen that you could hold a ruler up to and have it match documents. However, things have greatly changed past 1984,

    Recently, most Apple screens hovered around 100 dpi except for the 14 inch iBook. dpi on monitors continues to increase, and operating systems are having a hard time keeping up. Windows XP and OS X Tiger don't scale overly well currently. Both have the underpinnings to do it, and show signs that Vista/Leopard will do a much better job.

    Printers are also widly varried, though a direct dpi compairson can't be made since a computer monitor can display many colors with one pixel, where as a printer is limited to usually 4 or so colors per pixel. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dpi [wikipedia.org]
  • by gsfprez ( 27403 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:03PM (#13829896)
    Aperture is NOT a photoshop killer - if anything, its going to make Photoshop get back to what its good at - editing photos - and let it NOT be a photo organizer.

    Aperture is built for the prosumer to professional photographer that laughs at 25,000 photos. I can easily shoot 3000 (and want to keep 500) in a single week at work, but there has never been a good way to DO that.

    Aperture helps guys like me because when i shoot, say, 20 shots of a single moment at an event (a la, a football tackle, a guy hoisting a flag, etc) i really don't NEED 20 shots - i just want to get as many as possible so i can look thru the 20, find the best, and then (for some unknown reason) never want to delete the 19 others. iPhoto is a joke for this, of course, because i often could have row after row of pictures that were all pretty identical. I was about to go layout some cache on something to replace my iPhotoBuddy multi-library self organization setup i'm using now.

    Instead of manually organizing thousands of photos in dozens of groups, Aperture does it all for me. It also helps out with batch processing that iPhoto+Photoshop couldn't do (because iPhoto does all its organizing in a bunch of weird subfolders) without making mass exports, then deleting the non-edited photos, etc.

    Photoshop is still The premiere photo editing tool, but for making my livelihood livable and organized, to be able to grade, select, and throw out pictures (without deleting), to help make simple and fast output for customers to view online or to build USEFUL contact sheets, Aperture will save me untold hours of my life. Photoshop has has some sad organization tools - and the built in browser is just this side of Finder or XP's thumbnail view...

    there's no multi-image review with simultaneous panning, no UI benefits from dual screens, no loop zooms on both open images and previews... none of that.

    this is serious software - this is probably even a larger, more important jump from iPhoto than Final Cut is from iMovie...
  • by Tumbleweed ( 3706 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:06PM (#13829922)
    The point was that _all_ the videocards on the PowerMacs are nVidia, now - not an ATI to be found.
  • by Drakino ( 10965 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:06PM (#13829927) Journal
    All nVidia videocards, now -- one of which is a Quadro FX 4500 for $1650. Nice knowin' ya, ATI, don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.

    Woo. NVidia is making all the cards in the PowerMacs. ATI is still making the graphics chip in the iMacs, the Mac Mini, and all the laptops except the 12 inch Powerbook.

    Apple has used products from both sides and continues to do so. Nothing changed here. NVidia lost the iMac, and ATI lost the PowerMac.
  • Re:No PowerBook G5 (Score:3, Informative)

    by WMD_88 ( 843388 ) <kjwolff8891@yahoo.com> on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:11PM (#13829972) Homepage Journal
    Apple has never, until today, offered a 7200rpm hard drive in a PowerBook. You are either mistaken or you put the drive in yourself.
  • Re:No PowerBook G5 (Score:2, Informative)

    by Nuclear Elephant ( 700938 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:17PM (#13830022) Homepage
    On second glance, you are right. This has a 5400rpm. So at least it's not a downgrade, but it's certainlly not much of an upgrade either.
  • Re:Aperture info (Score:2, Informative)

    by MilSF1 ( 710927 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:23PM (#13830075)
    a. Doesn't look like it - it supports flattened PSD files. I think Apple is wanting you to use this before you get it into Photoshop, or if you don't need to touch up an image THAT much.

    b. "With its Spot tool, Aperture provides one-click, nondestructive removal of spots, dust, and blemishes. For more serious anomalies, Aperture packs a Patch tool. It can easily clone pixels from one area to another, and it offers precise controls (for softness, radius, opacity, and angle), letting you create perfect, seamless blends." (http://www.apple.com/aperture/process/ [apple.com])

    c. Couldn't find it either

    Look at the default metadata categories that it offers - EXIF, IPTC, Photo Specs, Photojournalism, Stock Metadata, Wedding. It looks like Apple is aiming at the photographer who goes back to the hotel after a day of shooting, chooses his 80-90 shots he wants, does quick touch-ups on a dozen or so and sends them off to an editor or wire service to pick which one to run. It can be Photoshopped later if it needs to be.

  • Optical audio out! (Score:4, Informative)

    by tempfile ( 528337 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:28PM (#13830122)
    One thing that is easily overlooked is the addition of an digital audio out jack on the 15" powerbook. With the 17" being just too big, this makes the Powerbook much more attractive as a desktop replacement if great audio quality is important to you.
  • by lowid (24) _________ ( 878977 ) <[moc.ksimota] [ta] [kcirtap]> on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:30PM (#13830137) Homepage
    While sibelius is a bit easier to use and learn, it really lacks the feature set of finale. If you're a college student turning in assignments or giving parts to musicians who aren't really that concerned about appearance, it's fine, but for a complicated, professional-looking score, or something publishing-ready, it's really much easier (and much more possible) to do in finale. This is, in a nutshell, the trade-off that you get with these two products.

    With that being said, I agree that finale is a mess sometimes. I really just wish they wouldn't push themselves for a yearly release. 2005b was in my experience the most stable finale release in some time, and another bug fix upgrade this year would have made it even better. Instead, they send out finale 2006 disks that erase your application support folder. Goodbye, address book! Plus heaps of bugs - it's faster overall, but until they come out with 2006a I'm back to using 2k5.

    P.
  • by Thu25245 ( 801369 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:30PM (#13830138)
    Mac monitors have always rendered one point = one pixel. Always. To this day, in Tiger, 1px=1pt.

    Let's get some terminology straight beforehand
    pixel = smallest uniquely controllable element on a screen
    point = unit for font measurement
    dot = smallest uniquely controllable visual element of anything (printer, screen, etc.)
    inch = unit for linear measurement; equal to 2.54cm

    The original Mac was designed so that 1pixel=1dot=1point=1/72 of an inch. Software, displays, and printers all agreed to this. Worked well in '84.

    Today, on, say, a 12" PowerBook, 1pixel=1point=1/106 of an inch on the screen.
      But in the software, 1pixel=1point=1/72". Still. To this day.

    The difference between 1/106 and 1/72 is exactly the problem that the resolution-independent UIs in Leopard/Vista are attempting to solve.
  • by NatasRevol ( 731260 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:30PM (#13830142) Journal
    In a word, no.

    http://media.99mac.se/g5_dualcore/ [99mac.se]
  • Re:Aperture info (Score:2, Informative)

    by samkass ( 174571 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:30PM (#13830143) Homepage Journal
    I'm not clear on whether you've already reviewed Apple Aperture site at:
    Tech specs: http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs.html [apple.com]
    Quicktime tours: http://www.apple.com/aperture/quicktours/ [apple.com]
    Screenshots: http://www.apple.com/aperture/gallery/ [apple.com]

    It looks like the answers might be:
    a) no (I don't see any evidence of overlays. For experimenting, instead of working on a layer it just keeps every version you've created, like a version-control system)
    b) yes (Dust, spot, blemish, red-eye, patch tools, and Lift and Stamp tool to copy and paste adjustments)
    c) Doesn't say, but they definitely are pushing the RAW support hard, so probably yes

    It looks like the real power of this app is workflow, not necessarily per-image features. The "stacking", tools, loupe, "lightboard" UI, integration with Automator (MacOS X's system-wide scripting), and similar attention to workflow issues. The Automator support seems like it could be especially interesting, since you can control many applications and integrate them with a Aperture workflow, and create a single script for photo operations, file, network transfer, searches, etc.

    It seems more like an iPhoto-on-steroids, and something you'd want to add to a Photoshop-like app, rather than something that could replace the creative content creation apps.
  • Re:Apple displays (Score:2, Informative)

    by mindstrm ( 20013 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:46PM (#13830290)
    No, only the 30" requires dual-link DVI. The 23" works fine on a regular DVI card.
  • Re:Price? (Score:3, Informative)

    by wickedsteve ( 729684 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @04:54PM (#13830375) Homepage
    Fortunately, there IS a way to tell the difference! Apple Certified = Refurbished: "Apple Certified Refurbished Products Listed below are great deals on Apple Certified Refurbished products." Sale = Overstock: "Apple Products on Sale All Apple products on Sale are temporarily out of stock. Please check back frequently for new savings opportunities from Apple."
  • by ted_rust ( 45928 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @05:29PM (#13830680)
    Read that page more carefully. You posted the "Recommended" not the "Required". Supports all G5s (with enough RAM) and the Aluminum PowerBooks >1.25GHz. Still hefty, but trying to say it requires the latest G5s is just misleading.
  • by KURAAKU Deibiddo ( 740939 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @05:37PM (#13830748) Homepage

    They did. From AppleInsider:

    Apple reduces Cinema Display pricing

    Oct 19 - 3:00 pm EST Along with the introduction of new PowerBooks and Power Macs on Wednesday, Apple reduced pricing on its Cinema Display line [apple.com], lowering the cost of the 23-inch model by $200 and the 30-inch version by $500. The 23-inch model now costs $1300 and sports a native resolution of 1920 x 1200. The 30-inch display -- which requires an ATI Radeon 9650, Radeon X850 XT or NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT DDL Card -- now sells for $2500. The 30-inch model has a resolution of 2560 x 1600. No changes were made to the company's 20-inch display, which sells for $800 and offers a 1680 x 1050 optimal resolution. All three displays are VESA mount compatible and feature 2 USB ports and 2 FireWire 400 ports.

  • by Paradox ( 13555 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @05:57PM (#13830907) Homepage Journal
    A lot more Mac software seems to be multi processor aware than Windows software. H.264 is dog-slow to encode but the Apple H.264 encoder used by the Quicktime encoder is MP-aware, with this, the speed will nearly double.
    Just a developer's aside to your comment. This kind of performance is typically very hard to get. Apple actually makes it surprisingly easy to tap into this kind of performance.

    It's not particularly hard as an Apple developer to take advantage of highly optimized and MP-aware code. Apple provides a very cool framework on every mac called "Accelerate.framework" (you can find it in /System/Library/Frameworks). This framework is very easy to use (from a C standpoint) compared to competitors and offers MP-aware, Altivec-Aware code. What's even wilder is that on the intel macs, apple can bind Accelerate.framework in the same way. Using this framework, you can make fast code and reduce migration woes.

    Far from being a weird apple invention, Apple basically optimized BLAS and LINPACK very tightly to the Mac OS X platform and then exposed via C-apis. They also built some higher level manipulations (as well as part of CoreImage and CoreAudio, from my understanding) on top of these basis, along with other heavily-optimized-and-profiled utilities.

  • Re:Apple displays (Score:5, Informative)

    by Fareq ( 688769 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @05:59PM (#13830924)
    As others have said, that is a DVI connector.

    You ought to be able to get a PC videocard with a DVI connector without too much difficulty.

    If you go the 30" route, you'll need a special videocard... specifically one with "Dual-Link DVI" which basically means a newish nVidia Quadro, any ATi X1x00 series, or any newish FireGL. Check the specific model to be sure. This limitation applies to any monitor that gets above about 2048x1536 (I think that's the number)... it's a bandwidth issue.

    If you're going 20" or 23" might I recommend at least considering the Dell 2005FPW (20") and 2405FPW (24").

    As best I can tell, the panels are equivalent. They both have the same resolutions 20" = 1680x1050, 23 or 24" = 1920x1200. I can't tell if one has a better image than the other -- they look the same to me. Others will surely disagree.

    But the Dells are cheaper. They start at $699 and $1199 instead of $799 and $1299. But, you can usually (such as right now) get nice discounts on the Dell...

    DealMeIn.net has the 20" at $394 after a bunch of coupons right now. Until yesterday they had coupons to make the 24" $774, but that seems to have expired... it'll be back at some point.

    Of course, Apple's pretty silver frame and stand is cooler than Dell's black one. But then, the power button on the Dell monitor turns off the monitor, whereas the power button on the Apple monitor confusingly turns off the computer it's connected to without turning off the monitor. (That may or may not happen on a PC... but it sure does on our powermac!)

    Up to you, but these days I think the Dell is just as good for much less... anyway, hope I was helpful.
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @06:58PM (#13831254)
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  • by asdfghjklqwertyuiop ( 649296 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @07:51PM (#13831598)
    A point isn't a "unit for font measurement" - it is a unit of length. It is exactly 1/72nd of an inch, always. If one pixel is 1/106th of an inch on a 12" powerbook, then 1px!=1pt on that system.

  • Re:Apple displays (Score:2, Informative)

    by cmdrbuzz ( 681767 ) <cmdrbuzz@xerocube.com> on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @08:22PM (#13831802)
    the power button on the Apple monitor confusingly turns off the computer it's connected to

    Open the Display preferences (Under System Preferences) and select the options, you can have it just turn off the monitor if you want.

  • by pastafazou ( 648001 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2005 @11:11PM (#13832728)
    I think a bit of clarification on your statement is necessary. The high-end G5 has two front side busses, one for each processor. This was always the case, even on the first dual 2GHz G5. The latest model features two front side busses, one per dual-core processor, at 1.25GHz each. This gives a maximum throughput to each dual-core processor of 10GBps, and 20GBps total between the CPUs and the system controller. The memory has a maximum throughput to the system controller of 8.5GBps, the video has 4GBps, and the PCI-x has 4GBps. The I/O subsystem (dual gigabit ethernet, dual SATA, USB, Firewire, Superdrive) has 1.6GBps. So all combined, 18.1GBps to the system controller, which can talk to the processors at 20GBps. While it would be nice to have dual memory busses, that would only leave 3GBps of bandwidth available for the rest of the system devices to share. In terms of the Athlon dual-core, I'm not positive on this, but I think it's integrated memory controller maxes throughput at 6.4GBps, and the I/O at 8GBps. Another point to note when comparing the architecture of the two processors is the design of Apple's front side bus. It has a 64-bit bus divided into two 32-bit busses, one travelling into the processor, one travelling out. Thus, 5GBps in, and 5GBps out. The Athlon has a 128-bit memory bus and a 16-bit system bus, both of which are unidirectional (either in or out, not simultaneous). The Apple bus architecture eliminates the latency associated with flipping the direction of the bus as well as the latency associated with the processor and system controller negotiating who will be using the bus next.
  • Re:Next Week (Score:2, Informative)

    by RTMFD ( 69819 ) <ibaird AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday October 20, 2005 @12:01AM (#13832960) Homepage

    Use a Folder Action Script to automagically add and delete stuff from iTunes if you want "watched folders". Go here for some documentation. [apple.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 20, 2005 @12:27AM (#13833095)
    A point is a "unit of length," but it's a unit of length that was developed for typography to measure fonts. And no, it is not "exactly 1/72nd of and inch, always." It is approxiametly 1/72.27 of an inch. 1/72nd of an inch is what the developers of postscipt rounded points to in order to simplify things.
  • Re:Aperture info (Score:4, Informative)

    by moosesocks ( 264553 ) on Thursday October 20, 2005 @12:39AM (#13833145) Homepage
    No, no, no. You've got it all wrong.

    First off, comparing it to picasa is heresy. The target audiences are COMPLETELY different, and Picasa lacks many of the features geared twoard pro photographers. The tools for comparing several shots at once is definitely a boon to pro photographers as is the speed at which the program operates.

    This program is not meant to replace photoshop by any means. Apple openly acknowledges that PS is the king of image post-processing. aperture is inttended to work alongside photoshop as a means of processing RAW images. The type of manipulations that are performed while in RAW are completely different than those that you'd normally use in a program like photoshop or picasa. Cloning/healing/patch are distinctly post-processing operations that modify the content of the image itself. What aperture does is modify the manner in which the image is diasplayed (ie. it changes how it interprets sensor data to boost saturation, exposure, reduce noise, etc.).

    It can be compared most easily to Adobe Bridge or Camera RAW. Camera RAW works fairly nicely with photoshop for processing small batches of images, but is cumbersome for processing large jobs. Bridge is a complement to camera RAW in that it provides an interface for organizing photos ala. iPhoto. What aperture aims to do is to intergrate the two into one seamless program. Many pro photographers use iPhoto and the likes to organize photos, simply because it's very easy to use despite lacking some major features.

    By non-destructive, I'm pretty sure apple means that they save a set of 'instructions' as to how you've modified the photo, instead of modifying the photo itself.

    I'm not saying the proram is any good. I've never used it, and I don't think anyone else here has. All I'm saying is that it looks fairly unique thus far. There's really nothing quite like it on the market (save for some of the super-high-end tools from extensis and the like)

    I predict that apple's next move will be to expand aperture or add another program to compete directly with photoshop. You can tell apple's nervious of adobe's loyalty to their platform. As much as I love Photoshop, I'd love to see some real competition.
  • by snowwrestler ( 896305 ) on Thursday October 20, 2005 @12:47AM (#13833176)
    This is the PJ industry standard right now for organizing and culling high-volume takes.

    http://www.camerabits.com/pages/PM4.html [camerabits.com]

    And it's a lot less expensive than Aperture, especially if you take the ridiculous system requirements for Aperture into account.

    iPhoto is terrible for this sort of work compared to software like Photo Mechanic, Extensis Portfolio, iView Media Pro, etc.
  • by wulfhound ( 614369 ) on Thursday October 20, 2005 @10:11AM (#13835492)
    Firewire is fine for bandwidth, but PCI and presumably PCIe beat it somewhat for latency.

    There's a lot of PCI cards still in use for pro-audio work -- all the "big" Pro Tools systems run off PCI, for a start -- not to mention accelerators like UAD-1, Powercore etc.. if Magma (or somebody) don't come out with a PCIe-to-PCI bridge and external enclosure, these things won't fly for pro audio.
  • by sakusha ( 441986 ) on Thursday October 20, 2005 @03:24PM (#13838509)
    Just to follow up my own question...

    Alias updated their qualified hardware list, the document is dated Oct 4 but only appeared online today (Oct 20) so they've obviously been testing these machines internally for a while now.

    Maya 7 now officially supports all the new Macs, and the nVidia 6600 and FX 4500. BUT there is no word on the 7800 yet. I called Alias tech support and they said that the quad processors are "supported but not optimized" whatever that means. I pressed them on the issue, they said they'd research it and get back to me. I suspect that this means that they still only support 2 processors and that Maya will run on a quad-G5 but with no speed advantage for the extra processors. But I can only guess at this, until I get better info.

    I think we're going to get a lot of this sort of waffling until the quad G5s get into developer hands, although it is not a good sign when a developer obviously HAS the machines and has tested them but hasn't publicly committed to 4 processor support. And this is the crux of the issue, are developers going to support these last-generation quad-G5s or are they going to skip over them and put their resources into preparing for the Intel macs? It would be a shame if they didn't support the quads, as the performance looks like it will beat anything on the market. I guess time will tell. And there's not much time left on the G5s, so this could be a problem.

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