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Music Exec Fires Back At Apple CEO 610

geniusj writes "Warner Music Group CEO, Edgar Bronfman Jr., has fired back at Steve Jobs in response to the Apple CEO's claim that having variable pricing for iTunes music would be 'greedy.' From the article: 'To have only one price point is not fair to our artists, and I dare say not appropriate to consumers. The market should decide, not a single retailer ... Some songs should be $0.99 and some songs should be more. I don't want to give anyone the impression that $0.99 is a thing of the past ... We are selling our songs through iPod, but we don't have a share of iPod's revenue ... We want to share in those revenue streams. We have to get out of the mindset that our content has promotional value only.' Perhaps iPods combined with iPods are selling music as well, and it's not just a one-way street?"
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Music Exec Fires Back At Apple CEO

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  • wow ?! (Score:4, Funny)

    by rd4tech ( 711615 ) * on Saturday September 24, 2005 @01:46PM (#13638554)
    is not fair to our artists

    !? :)
  • An oil industry spokesman said the oil industry should not have to use its content to promote the sale of vehicles for Hummer or anyone else, and not truly share in the profits.

    “We are selling our gas through H2, but we dont have a share of H2’s revenue,” he said. We want to share in those revenue streams.

    The cash register industry did not return calls seeking comment, but representatives for the tobacco industry are reported to be participating in high level talks with the AMA.
  • by hyu ( 763773 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @01:48PM (#13638569)
    To have only one price point is not fair to our artists

    That's all well and nice, but raising the price of a song by ten or twenty cents means that your local artist may now receive another half-cent! Don't you feel like you're helping out now?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 24, 2005 @01:57PM (#13638634)
    I also suggest speakerwire be taxed per foot, since the longer the cables, the bigger the room and thus the more people can listen at the same time.
  • by MrAndrews ( 456547 ) <mcm@NOSpaM.1889.ca> on Saturday September 24, 2005 @02:07PM (#13638709) Homepage
    It's a wonderful two-pronged attack: the goose's contract to turn out eggs expires ahead of the other egg-laying beasts in the kingdom, so insist they turn out platinum from now on. This drives people to the chicken and the ostrich - because they have no such platinum requirements for at least another year or two - and puts the goose's monopoly on eggs in the crapper. In three years, none of the birds will have any great advantage over one another, and platinum will be the new standard. Win/Win!

    It's greed, but it's brilliantly strategic greed.
  • by Drooling Iguana ( 61479 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @02:31PM (#13638850)
    He should run for President.
  • by sp3tt ( 856121 ) <<sp3tt> <at> <sp3tt.se>> on Saturday September 24, 2005 @02:50PM (#13638997)
    "Don't think he speaks for the entertainment industry; he's an idiot even among those morons."

    "Hi. I am a record company. I believe that I will sell more products if I make them worse, and charge unreasonable prices. And of course that customers like to get sued and generally screwed."
  • by The Ultimate Fartkno ( 756456 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @03:01PM (#13639055)
    If there was ever a time to use the word, I'd say that this was it. If he's claiming that he's not getting paid for sales through iTunes, then he's a fucking liar. If he's saying that he deserves a cut of the sales of iPods, then he's a fucking thief. And when he says that "we have to get out of the mindset that our content has promotional value only" then I really have to say that I have no idea what the *fuck* he's talking about! What other value could music have? Does he want to collect personal property taxes on my old U2 albums? Dividends? Insulation value? Ham?

    Now quick, somebody mod me up +5, fucking confused.
  • by funkdid ( 780888 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @03:06PM (#13639088)
    I remember going to Sam Goody at the local mall and each and every Casette Single was $2.99 if you wanted the hot new single on CD, it was $4.99, all of them. The Record Industry didn't mind that. They never argues that once a song hit #1 the single should cost $3.50, odd I think. Wait odd isn't the word, it's BULLSHIT! Yes that was the word that I was looking for. This man is full of shit. Thank you
  • by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @03:12PM (#13639114)
    And for my next demand, I want a law forcing all consumers to buy our products at the prices we, in our infinite wisdom, set for them. No more of this voting with your pocketbook -- or feet stuff. After all, we are vital to the American economy -- and yacht salesmen everywhere!
  • by sdnoob ( 917382 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @03:38PM (#13639240)
    suppliers have every right to set the wholesale prices for their products. however, how the music industry has and is conducting itself is just pathetic; and if apple had a CHOICE in who to purchase their tracks from, i'm sure they'd be looking at alternatives.

    as i understand it, there's a contract up for renewal between apple and the music industry? this would just be posturing during the negotiations. normally the public isn't exposed to the bickering, lies and pissing matches between a retail outlet and their suppliers during the purchasing process.

    if apple knows what's good for it's customers, they'll push for wholesale rates that allow them to maintain the current retail price. if the music industry knows what's good for itself, it'll LOWER their wholesale prices..

    the more expensive something is: the more likely it is to be stolen or pirated. and the fewer units will be sold. the industry's goal is to jack prices as high as they can, so long as gross receipts doesn't drop due to lowered sales volume. and if they can get away with locking the content down so tight you need an riaa exec's thumbprint to play a tune, so much the better for the them (riaa).

    the less expensive something is: the more likely it will be bought and paid for, and as a result, pirated or stolen less. lower prices equal higher sales volumes, which can mean higher gross receipts. likewise, the more convenient and desirable a product is, the higher the sales volume will be.

    the music industry wants to (and does) charge the highest possible price for music, even though that lowers demand and sales volume (why don't any of the riaa sob stories about lowered sales due to p2p mention the HIGHER prices for music during the same time period?). they could instead work to find the LOWEST price that generates the same (or even more) revenue due to an increase in sales volume at the lower price. (actually any industry could do this.. but many choose not to)... noting that the LOWER price translates to better overall p.r., and happier customers who will be more apt to be repeat and/or higher volume customers

    and lastly, the crappier the music is: the less likely anyone will even bother pirating it, nevermind buying it. HMMM.. i think i just figured out why current music SUCKS... they're forcing the crap on us to discourage piracy.. tricky little buggers....
  • by banzaimonkey ( 917475 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @05:47PM (#13640291)
    Shares of Apple were up $0.47 to $52.37 in recent trading, while shares of Warner Music Group were down a penny to $18.03.

    I think that alone says something.

    As for the rest of the article, allow me to translate:

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

  • by ta ma de ( 851887 ) <chris.erik.barne ... il.com minus bsd> on Saturday September 24, 2005 @06:01PM (#13640372)
    Our comrades buy from allofmp3.com; where music is priced by the pound in Ogg.
  • President? (Score:5, Funny)

    by nhaines ( 622289 ) <nhaines AT ubuntu DOT com> on Saturday September 24, 2005 @07:14PM (#13640781) Homepage
    He's overqualified. ;)
  • by cwelch ( 917505 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @07:53PM (#13641028)
    For the love of God please don't say that!! Someone this stupid might get in!
  • by natronxx ( 913739 ) on Saturday September 24, 2005 @08:08PM (#13641109)
    Fortunately for all you Americans, I believe this jackass was born in Canada which would disqualify him from running for president.

    Unfortunately for us Canadians, his being a jackass makes him perfectly qualified for running Canada.
  • by JetTredmont ( 886910 ) on Sunday September 25, 2005 @12:48AM (#13642564) Homepage
    Jobs: Record execs are greedy.

    Record Exec: We are not greedy, we just want money for what we produce. And we need a cut of iPod sales.

    Jobs: QED

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