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Tiger's 200 New Features 903

An anonymous reader writes "If this hasn't already been posted, Apple set up a page listing, by software section, all of the new features for OS X.4, or Tiger. Given that every upgrade touts over a hundred features, it is interesting to see all of the enhancements to this upgrade to see what adopters get out of the box. There are a lot which are tweaks, some new non-Spotlight oriented features and a few that are interesting, mostly security related features. 2 words: stealth mode. "
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Tiger's 200 New Features

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  • Awsome. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Pooldraft ( 756431 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @09:48AM (#12261306)
    It seems to run a bit quicker with every release, unlike my poor SP2 machine. Go OSX.
  • by remahl ( 698283 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:02AM (#12261386)
    OS X's firewall is very competent (ipfw). However, Apple's GUI for it was quite rudimentary, for good and for bad. It basically had a button to turn it on or off and one to open ports.

    Most consumer-oriented firewalls overdo the configurability and impose the log on users who would be better of not knowing how many malicious and non-malicious "attacks" are directed towards their computers, as long as the firewall blocks them. It's the attacks that aren't blocked / logged that should be interesting.

    Apple always strives to strike a balance between "user-friendliness" and power. Apparently they decided they should give stealth mode to those who need it and make it easier to view a log.
  • by emidln ( 806452 ) <adam4300@kettering.edu> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:02AM (#12261398) Homepage
    The news is that they just got built-in tools to configure it. In comparison to Windows, third-party programs have been available to configure (not really install, since OS X uses IPFW from FreeBSD) the firewall in a user-friendly way since its release. The firewall has always been available in OS X, its just that you had to use the UNIX underpinnings or find a third-party program to use advanced features.
  • by bobinabottle ( 819829 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:04AM (#12261407)
    Apple uses a different version numbering system. Just because it is called 10.4 doesn't really mean anything - it could just be as simply called Mac OS X 2005 or v4.0 or Mac OS Tiger for all it matters.

    Comparing to Windows Service Packs, there has been two for XP. Apple has released 9 "service packs" for Mac OS X Panther.
    10.3.1
    10.3.2
    10.3.3
    10.3.4
    10.3.5
    10.3.6
    10.3.7
    10.3.8
    and now 10.3.9.

    These have added new features, tweaks and improved security also.

    I am sick of people whinging about apple charging for "point updates;" it's is an old and worn out argument and it comes down to the simple point of if you don't want it, don't buy it.

    Your comment just lost a couple of cool points in my book.
  • by nguyenhm ( 577058 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:07AM (#12261428)
    I think the most interesting new features of Tiger are under the hood. Those four new frameworks add an incredible amount of functionality into the base OS, which can be easily used by future applications. For examle, CoreImage adds tons of image processing features a la Photoshop, is extensible, and uses the GPU.
  • by he-sk ( 103163 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:15AM (#12261475)
    Spotlight, Dashboard, Quicktime 7, H.264, CoreImage, CoreData, X Code 2, ... are hardly "tweaks." The list goes on and on.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:16AM (#12261483)
    Sometimes you need to provide access to a service on one network adapter and not another, and the software in question doesn't provide for that.

    Sometimes there are oversights in software that you need to work around, and a software firewall can help (yes, this mostly applies to windows).

    A client firewall is often more of a hindrance than a help for the experienced user, but you seem to be forgetting that a huge chunk of the world is made up of inexperienced users.
  • Re:Too expensive.... (Score:5, Informative)

    by dimer0 ( 461593 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:26AM (#12261556)
    Amazon has a $35 rebate [amazon.com] on Tiger, which brings the price down to $94.99.

    If you're a student/educator, you can also take advantage of Apple's educational pricing - $69 w/ free shipping.

  • Re:Awsome. (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:29AM (#12261575)
    SP2 doesn't slow your system down. You've most likely got a shitty and/or slow machine.
  • by justsomebody ( 525308 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:38AM (#12261647) Journal
    It is called "Burn on the fly", and please don't make rocket science out of this. It was year 1995 when most of the burning software already contained this feature
  • by ryan_fung ( 610676 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:47AM (#12261707)
    Apple also posted a more readable comparison table with Panther and Jaguar at http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/compare.html .
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:48AM (#12261717)
    Windows 2K = Win 5.0
    Windows XP = Win 5.1
    Windows Server 2003 = Win 5.2

  • Re:OK, how about... (Score:4, Informative)

    by fafaforza ( 248976 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:55AM (#12261754)
    Some fine people ported BlackBox to Windows. bb4win.org. It comes with your default 4 virtual desktops, and you can configure bbkeys to Alt+{1,2,3,4,n+1} between them. And it is lightning fast; much faster than Microsoft's.

    It looks like BlackBox runs instead of the default Explorer process, so the OS ends up feeling overall more responsive. So you might want to check it out. You can easily uninstall it by using a sinple batch script.
  • by nahdude812 ( 88157 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:56AM (#12261760) Homepage
    Well, yours is an optomistic view. Refreshing :-).

    The idea isn't to protect against attack on all those services you have running but don't use, it's to minimise potential damage if you are compromised. If the firewall blocks port 31337 on a windows box, and BackOrifice gets installed, the user is compromised but not exposed.

    Also, as another user mentioned, there's the issue of spyware that might set up a listening port, or just any other software which fails to protect itself well, but which you need to run locally. Put holes in the firewall only for those things you know for sure you want the outside having access to, and no matter what crap happens on the client machine, its exposure is still the same.

    Also, there's selective access that happens on a client firewall. My database server has a firewall in place to protect its copy of MySQL. Only my http server can connect on that port, anyone else, the OS simply drops the packet (which is the old term for this fancy new "stealth mode").

    Firewalls do more than simply provide all or none access to the world, even client firewalls.
  • Re:2 words: (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:00AM (#12261786)
    'Apple Remote Desktop' built into the OS

    Already in XP. Terminal Services/Remote Desktop is standard.
  • Re:2 words: (Score:2, Informative)

    by dmarcoot ( 96402 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:03AM (#12261804) Journal
    apprently it is.
    http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/fontbook /

    look at side bar on lower right
  • Re:2 words: (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:12AM (#12261858)
    'Apple Remote Desktop' built into the OS

    Terminal Services, RDP has been in XP since 2001.

    'Spotlight' integrated OS wide database driven search

    I guess you could blame this one on Google, who pretty much had the first desktop search out there. In fact, they'll even sell you a search appliance for your intranet.

    'iSync' computer to computer 'synchronization' (bookmarks, preferences, etc)

    XP's files and settings transfer wizard, since 2001.

    Thing is, there are a lot of things sat in both Windows and OSX that a lot of people did way beforehand, only to disappear from sight once MS or Apple built it into the OS. The same probably goes for Linux GUIs too - heck even the Amiga had some of the points you mention above before the Mac did.

    At the end of the day, they both have some serious credit to give to Xerox PARC, which does pretty much define how we use computers today.
  • Re:2 words: (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:16AM (#12261879)
    Most of your rebuttals start with "you can get...". You seem to overlook that these are built-in to Apple's new OS, meaning there's no getting - it's already there.

    You correctly point out that most of these features aren't strictly new. However, you overlook the fact that none of these features has been implemented even half as well as Apple's done them for Tiger (yes, I *have* tried them). Most people don't understand that there's a difference between doing something and doing it well. If that's you, fine. If not, do some more research before making a fool of yourself.

    2D acceleration != 3D acceleration. Apple's using 3D acceleration for their 2D UI, which *is* new.

    Unlike Google and the others you cite, Spotlight is updated instantly - no need to wait for the search tool to see the change, or to run updatedb.

    Core Image/Video allow you to do things that were formerly only possible in Photoshop/After Effects - all in realtime, without special hardware.

    iSync - doesn't sound terribly new to me.

    ARD - sounds like catch-up to me too (though ARD has been around for years, just not built-in to the OS).

    Target disk mode - been around for years. Just Works.

    Xgrid - built-in, no setup to worry about. Just Works. Unlike, say, Beowulf.

    So basically, Apple has refined a load of features than can be haphazardly cobbled together using other OSes and combined them into a system where they're implemented *well*.

    Sorry loser, but you sound about as well-educated as the average American 15 year-old.
  • Re:Coincidence? (Score:5, Informative)

    by phillymjs ( 234426 ) <slashdot@stanTWAINgo.org minus author> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:21AM (#12261913) Homepage Journal
    It just means that every computer has to index network volumes for its self,

    No it doesn't, it means the server creates the index of its volumes and the client machines have access to that index. As I said in another post in this thread, Apple was doing that back in 1999 with Sherlock, [64.233.179.104] except the index was separate instead of part of the file system, and the indexing ran at intervals instead of happening in real time.

    ~Philly
  • by dmd ( 404 ) <dmd@ 3 e . org> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:35AM (#12262016) Homepage
    Funny, my copy of XP, and everyone else's I've ever encountered, has this built in to the OS. Try again.
  • Re:Burnable folders (Score:5, Informative)

    by beelsebob ( 529313 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:37AM (#12262035)
    That's not quite the point - burnable folders are persistent and can appear anywhere in your filing system. You create a burnable folder, 'copy' your home directory to it (which actually just leaves a marker to tell it to copy your home dir) and then burn it. Two weeks later you come back to do another backup and the contents of the burnable folder have changed to reflect the contents of your home directory - so you just press burn.
  • by Nova Express ( 100383 ) <lawrenceperson.gmail@com> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:41AM (#12262052) Homepage Journal
    That would be Aldus with Pagemaker in 1980 http://desktoppub.about.com/od/history/

    I know it's a real hardship to actually read your own links, but perhaps if you had taken this unprecidented step you would see that they list Pagemaker as coming out in "the mid-1980s," not 1980. Further, if you had actually read the article linked from that page, you would have found this: "1985 - Aldus develops PageMaker for the Mac, the first "desktop publishing" application." [about.com]

    If you have any further difficulties with basic reading comprehension, please let us know.

  • Re:Coincidence? (Score:3, Informative)

    by phillymjs ( 234426 ) <slashdot@stanTWAINgo.org minus author> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:44AM (#12262068) Homepage Journal
    Yeah, and it was the first extension turned off. It was running up to 4 hours until canceled. No live results.

    On a server, you scheduled it to run at midnight, and who gave a shit how long it took to run? That was only for the initial indexing, anyway-- subsequent updates of an existing index took much less time.

    How do you compare this with WinFS, Spotlight, Beagle? It is completely different topic, accidentaly having the "SEARCH" word in common

    It's not a completely different topic, it is exactly on topic-- you were trying to say that some aspects of WinFS were Microsoft's idea first, and I called you on it by showing that Apple did them in 1999. And yes, the way they did it had shortcomings, but that doesn't change the fact that they accomplished it 6 years ago. Now Apple is improving and reviving those features in OS X, while Microsoft has stricken WinFS from the feature list of their newest version of Windows, AGAIN.

    ~Philly
  • by Queer Boy ( 451309 ) * <<dragon.76> <at> <mac.com>> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:45AM (#12262087)
    CoreImage adds tons of image processing features a la Photoshop

    No, CoreImage goes WAY beyond Photoshop because the effects are real-time GPU accelerated and non-destructive. The developer tools comes with an application called CoreImage funhouse which is rudimentary but works. I look for GraphicConvertor to add CoreImage to the next version and really put a hurt on Photoshop Elements.

    It's amazing to perform filters in realtime and scrub the centerpoint to watch the image change. These are effects that were only available to high-end applications like Photoshop that now every shareware author has direct access to.

  • Re:200+? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Nicky G ( 859089 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @11:53AM (#12262126)
    Try again -- human hearing isn't measured in bits at all. And a 24-bit and 16-bit audio file can easily be differentiated by anyone with any ear at all. Also, the 64-bit music file seems to be referring more to the size of the file, and how much can be addressed by memory.
  • Re:Too expensive.... (Score:3, Informative)

    by angle_slam ( 623817 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @12:23PM (#12262323)
    but the $129 list is still wayyyyy cheaper than XP Pro,

    Yeah, because $129 is wayyyyy cheaper than $119.99 [salesintl.com].

  • by cant_get_a_good_nick ( 172131 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @01:08PM (#12262600)
    I notice quite a lot of the usual complaining about Apple charging for a point release of an operating system where Microsoft would give it for free.
    I hate to double post a reply to the same parent, but I forgot to mention in my other response...

    XP is marked as 5.1, NT2000 is 5.0, so XP is a point release, and MS certainly charged for it.
  • by As Seen On TV ( 857673 ) <asseen@gmail.com> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @01:23PM (#12262693)
    Spotlight = Copernic/Google Toolbar/MSN Toolbar

    No, it really isn't. I'm unsurprised by your ignorance about this. I guess we've just done a lousy job of explaining it.

    Spotlight is a full-fledged system service, not just a user interface. Application developers can very easily add Spotlight to their own applications. For example, look at Mail. The additions to Mail to support Spotlight searching were trivial. In fact, the total code size of an early Spotlight build of Mail was significantly smaller, because we off-loaded all of the indexing and searching to the Spotlight service, removing it from Mail.

    Comparing Mail to a third-party bolt-on search product is, well, dumb.

    Safari RSS = Why the name change?

    There has been no name change. The name of the browser is Safari. The version is 2.0. "Safari RSS" is just a marketing name for Safari's RSS support.

    Dashboard = Avedesk/Samaurise

    Um. No. Dashboard widgets are little Web Views. They're essentially Web applications running in little floating windows. I'd suggest you check it out before just arbitrarily declaring it to be the same as something else.

    "AIM Profiles in iChat AV" isn't exactly a huge innovation

    No, it's not. But we got 17,438 requests for that feature from users. It doesn't have to be big to be important to our customers.

    it's quite easy to obtain as many free fonts as you please

    We're not including free fonts. We're including professionally designed and licensed fonts --fully Unicode-savvy, of course -- that would cost hundreds of dollars if bought after the fact.

    "Improved RAID Support" is what we call a "fix" not a new feature

    You don't understand the feature. This doesn't really surprise me at this point, because it's clear that your goal here is just to post criticisms without a whole lot of concern about truth.

    We already had striping support, which is sometimes erroneous called "RAID 0." We already had mirroring support. Now we've added concatenation. See? New feature.

    I have absolutely no problem with people who want to be critical. Critical is where we live. But is it really too much to ask that the people who levy criticisms have the tiniest idea what they're talking about first? It would save so much time.
  • by leoofborg ( 803260 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @01:30PM (#12262732)
    Um, you're missing something.

    1/ FV Encrypts the user's /home directory.

    2/ Secure VM encrypts the /swap directory

    So, the activities of the FV'd user (and others, and system process) that have been committed to /swap are all encrypted.

    There -was- a flap on /. some weeks ago that FV was a moot point because the swap was raw data. That is not an issue with Tiger.
  • by alanQuatermain ( 840239 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @01:31PM (#12262741) Homepage
    It's most certainly not the same thing as you can get in Panther. This calculator is designed to be helpful for the average programmer, so it includes:
    1. oct/dec/hex buttons (not just menu items)
    2. A 64-bit binary readout just under the main readout pane (this can be hidden, also)
    3. Buttons to switch the binary readout between 1's and 2's complement representation
    4. Buttons for common programming operations, such as:
      • AND, OR, NOT, XOR
      • Bit-shift left, bit-shift right (also as Y<<X and Y>>X)
      • Rotate Left and Rotate Right
      • Byte Flip and Word Flip (for help with big/little endian issues)
    5. ASCII or Unicode representation of whatever value you enter (especially useful for decoding the Mac's OSType values, which are written as four ASCII chars to produce a 32-bit value, i.e. 'APPL', 'ecom', etc.)
    6. Menu option to choose precision between 0 and 16 bits [digits?]
    7. Menu option to use Reverse Polish Notation (been too long since I studied CS, can't even remember what this should do or look like now - changes '=' button to 'enter', though)
  • Re:Spotlight (Score:5, Informative)

    by As Seen On TV ( 857673 ) <asseen@gmail.com> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @01:41PM (#12262787)
    Okay, I'm on a disinformation-squashing crusade today.

    Google indexes content. This is important. Hugely, massively important. But we've had content indexing for a long time now. It only takes us so far.

    What's more important than content indexing is metadata indexing.

    Metadata literally means "data about data." It's information about your files that isn't actually stored in your files. For example, let's say you take a photograph and store it in your Pictures folder. Spotlight can automatically extract some metadata from the picture all by itself. It can tell that the picture is 2048 pixels across and that it's in Nikon RAW format and that you took it on December 24, 2003. The computer knows this stuff already.

    Other metadata was inserted automatically when the picture taken. For example, the camera inserted metadata identifying it as being taken with a Nikon D1 using a 1/250 exposure and a 2.8 f-stop.

    Spotlight indexes all that stuff.

    But there's a third type of metadata. In addition to intrinsic metadata and automatically inserted metadata, there's descriptive metadata. Your computer knows that the picture is 2048 pixels across and that it was taken with a Nikon D1, but it can't know that it's a picture of your niece Katie. That's where iPhoto comes in. You use iPhoto to write a descriptive caption -- "Lawrence's daughter Katie on Christmas Eve" -- and that caption gets stored in the photo as metadata. Spotlight indexes it.

    So if you come along later and search for "Christmas pictures," Spotlight will find that photo. Because it knows it's a picture, and because you described it as being related to Christmas.

    Now, that's today. (Well, in two weeks.) What's next? We're going to find new ways of attaching automatic metadata. Here's one we've been talking about a lot: Your laptop has a GPS receiver in it. Tiny thing, about the size of a pencil eraser. At all times, your laptop knows where it is on the face of the Earth, accurate to about thirty feet.

    Every file you create is tagged with three new, additional pieces of metadata: latitude, longitude and altitude. That's on top of the date and time data we already attach to every file.

    Say you go on a business trip to Seattle. A year later, you can search your laptop for that e-mail you sent to your coworker Tom while you were in Seattle.

    More: Using a very simple user interface, you can define locations. Sitting at your desk, you tell your laptop to refer to that location as "work." Any file created within a 100-yard radius of that location will be returned in a search for "work." On your couch you define a location called "home." Sitting at the coffee shop you define a location called "Starbucks." And so on.

    Now your computer knows not only when you modified that file, it knows where you were when you did it. That's all metadata you can use for searching.

    This is pretty advanced stuff. It's going to be a while before we start shipping GPS-enabled Powerbooks. But it's on the drawing board.

    Spotlight opens up a whole new way of storing information. It's not a new idea; we've been trying to make it work for ten years now. But the actual working implementation of it is simply revolutionary. It's a quantum leap beyond anything that anybody has to offer right now.
  • Re:Coincidence? (Score:2, Informative)

    by justsomebody ( 525308 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @02:10PM (#12262964) Journal
    Nope, client also has to post his index to server. And index of network volumes was local on OS8.x
  • by ruiner13 ( 527499 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @02:13PM (#12262986) Homepage
    " One of the new features is that Mail.app supports Exchange servers - but I have a feeling this is just imap support and won't handle meeting invites, etc."

    Actually, mail handles it correctly even in 10.3. Meeting invites open iCal and place it on your calendar (if you accept, of course). It has worked perfectly thus far for my mac. We have POP3 access turned on in our exchange server, and I have been using it as such. The new feature is that I don't have to use POP3 any more, I can connect natively, and access my address book and such, I assume.

  • Re:Awsome. (Score:5, Informative)

    by MemoryDragon ( 544441 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @02:19PM (#12263031)
    Actually Windows becomes slower over time, the reason for this, is that Windows has a much tighter integration of the libraries. Once programs start to dump stuff into the system more and more libs are loaded into ram dependend on each other, never to be released, another reason is that versioning is done within the COM objects themselves instead of going the naming mechanism unix does, which means, with every update you basically load another bunch of new minor versions with every com object into never to be properly releasead also.

    Add to that the usual slow down problems like virus scanners, software firewalls, application preloaders etc... and you can see the speed going down the drain.
  • Re:gcc 4.0? (Score:3, Informative)

    by goMac2500 ( 741295 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @02:30PM (#12263091)
    As a developer, I can say GCC4 is optional, and GCC3.3 and GCC2.9 are still included and I can tell my XCode projects to flip back to them/
  • by itistoday ( 602304 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @02:30PM (#12263092) Homepage
    ditto is a command on OS X and some BSD systems that's used to copy files. On OS X it has the flag -rsrc that ensures it copies the resource forks of various documents and applications. Currently on 10.3, 'cp' will ignore the resource forks, breaking some applications that use them.
  • by myov ( 177946 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @02:50PM (#12263220)
    It's simple. Ignore the leading 10.
    As an Apple employee once told me, it's "Mac OS 10", version 1.0/2.0/etc.

    Or, for the people who still claim that 10.4 is a "service pack": Microsoft uses the exact same versioning scheme! Windows XP is version 5.1. SP1 and SP2 are version 5.1.something. Those were free. The upgrade from windows 5.0 (ie: Win 2K > WinXP) was not.
  • Re:Spotlight (Score:3, Informative)

    by As Seen On TV ( 857673 ) <asseen@gmail.com> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @03:02PM (#12263314)
    Currently Metadata is common in Music only.

    Not true. Every photo taken with a digital camera has EXIF metadata, and every photo distributed by a wire service has IPTC metadata.

    If the system is incomplete and any single file doesn't have metadata added, the system is effectively useless

    The old "if it's not perfect, it's useless" lie. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    A Meta data based system also scales up badly to network/internet size solutions.

    Actually Spotlight scales spectacularly well across the enterprise because clients have read access to server metadata databases. However, this is just an incidental benefit. Spotlight isn't designed to do what you're criticizing it for not doing.

    I'm sorry to have to tell you that you obviously have a fundamental lack of understanding about the problem you're trying to discuss. This is nothing to be ashamed of. But you should first try to wrap your head around the problem before telling everybody what's wrong with the solutions.

    Besides, your objections are trumped by the most obvious rebuttal of all: Spotlight works. Spectacularly.
  • Re:Java Jive? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @03:23PM (#12263467)
    Yes. Though not part of 10.4, it will only run on 10.4. Look for it soon after the 10.4 release.
  • Re:Coincidence? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Durandal64 ( 658649 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @04:00PM (#12263675)
    Being able to access to network search based on the network system policies, where clients store their queries (again with network system policies, some parts of your metadata should be visible for you from anywhere, but JoeSixPack shouldn't even get them visible as possible results) on server (if server is present).
    Tiger's metadata is stored on a directory-by-directory basis. In other words, if I mount a share point from a Tiger server on my Tiger client, I can only search metadata in that share point. So, if you don't have read access to a directory, you don't have read access to its metadata either. Queries aren't stored on the server, but the metadata associated with a share point is stored on the server, not duplicated by the client.
  • by yopu ( 575433 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @06:51PM (#12264690) Homepage
    The replies in this thread seem to be either missing the real issue, or guessing. Here's what I know based on direct experience at my company (approximately 99% Windows, 0.99% Macs--including me--and 0.01% Linux).

    Exchange Server supports (at least) MAPI, IMAP, and POP. My company recently "upgraded" to a newer/the lastest Exchange Server and turned off IMAP and POP support.

    Mail.app does indeed work with Exchange, but depends on IMAP being "turned on" in Exchange Server. So I can no longer use Mail.app. It does not support MAPI. Period.

    The latest Entourage (part of Office 2004), however, does work, so I'm reasonably sure it must be using MAPI. Unfortunately, it's unquestionably the worst app I use on my Mac: slow, burdened with "Microsoft featuritis," and ugly/inelegant.

    I could not find any Mac OS X e-mail clients besides Entourage that support MAPI. (Microsoft's previous Exchange 2000 for OS 9 did, but it was dropped in favour of Entourage.)

    I was using Snerdware's Groupcal until the server upgrade. It no longer works. There is apparently a WebDAV method that Groupcal requires that is not enabled by default. See:

    http://www.snerdware.com/support/index.php?x=&mod_ id=2&id=1

    There is no way my company's all-Microsoft IT department is going to do this.

    So, in sum, Mail.app, at least up to OS X 10.3.9, requires IMAP or POP support from the Exchange server.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @07:07PM (#12264781)
    Hey.

    I'm the A.C. who submitted the link to the features page. Normally, these submissions go into my browser and I forget about them long after the links are ingored by the moderators. So, it is surprising that the mods felt like posting it.
    Some follow-ups:
    1) I thought that the verbage would be changed; instead it was posted verbatim. Yikes. Me didn't want to come across as some sort of shill for Apple or as a bafoon. I accomplished the latter w/o trying. thanks, /.ers! You really like me.

    2) I submitted it yesterday. My luck tends to be that of a johnny-come-lately and it just seemed like /. would already have a similar post up by the time they read my submission.

    3)Stealth Mode, like some mentioned, is totally about privacy. It may seem trivial to most of you but c'mon, peeps, giving non-technical savvy users that option is welcome. And, the firewall feature is built into Darwin. Any obvious privacy additions to the security features are welcome.
    4) Most of the features are tweaks, simply product enhancements. There's nothing wrong with that. When the Find application in OS 8 became Sherlock with OS 8.5 it changed the way users searched for files on their desktop. It even allowed for searching the internet from within the Sherlock app. Windows search thing still launched the browser--explorer-- and defaulted to MS' search page. BS, that is.
    At base, Spotlight is the better search that seemed to stall between OS 8.5 and OS X. With Metadata not existing, so to speak, in pre-Tiger OS X, the options for search were limited. That is a major reason I don't use X daily. I likes me metadata because I can arrange things the way I want to and not as the OS wants me to. And, the OS "knows" when I move things without popping up warnings or interfering with what I'm doing.
    In OS 9 I can search based on the data in the resource fork. That's helped me out especially when I've had to fix corrupted files.
    And, of course meta-data makes the OS "smarter."
    The goal of comupting advances is still about making the interaction invisible and easier for anyone to use, right?

    Arranging files you create in ways that are best conducive to the way you work is just desired. Metadata, especially since I cut my teeth on System 7-OS 9, makes things better.

    Finally, beyond metadata, the things I dig most about Tiger and while I'll likely upgrade:
    Automator, Core Image/video, Quicktime enhancements. All of those are good for me and my ilk who do multimedia and who don't program. The bulk of the enhancements to the OS assist people like me who aren't code junkies but who want to take fuller advantage of the OS, of Quicktime (which really has so more functionality than Apple seems to promote , like, interactivity and the 3D panoramas of QTVR) and increases our workflow.
  • Re:Awsome. (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 17, 2005 @07:35PM (#12264915)
    You had two choices for a meaningless kneejerk karma attempt and thought you'd go with both. Good for you! It's a damn shame you can't lose double the karma.

    If you had paid the $129 for each release you wouldn't be disappointed. 10.0 was so much better than OS 9 it was night and day. I wouldn't touch a Mac with OS 9. 10.1 and 10.2 both delivered useful features and speed improvements. 10.3 I was less impressed with, but 10.4 - Tiger - is quite amazing. You'll probably never know since you criticize without knowledge but even Spotlight would be enough to justify a point release like this. Microsoft may one day deliver this kind of thing, perhaps in three years with Longhorn, but it will only work if you go and fill out all the metadata required to make it work - or if developers submit to Microsofts edicts regarding schemas and do it for you. Spotlight works on existing data such as EXIF data...

    The No. 1 thing that tossers like you need to do is think about FUD. What does FUD mean? The answer is "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt" - coined by those critical of IBM's habit of asking "is it compatible?". You use it when you mean "misinformation" because you think it's what clever people on Slashdot do, but you only show yourself to be a fool. You also probably mean "no truth TO the comment" or "no substantiation FOR the comment" than "substantiation to the comment" but let's work on the easy fixes first.

    And by the way you're wrong - NT ran faster than 2000 ran faster than XP ran faster than XP SP1 ran faster than XP SP2. It's inevitable that as features are glommed onto an existing code base that at its core is not being improved that it goes slower. If your hardware upgrades are giving you the impression that things are becoming faster overall, you're lucky, but you're also paying for it, and probably a lot mroe than you think Apple users pay as a premium for getting hardware that "just works (tm)".

    The core of OS X is being continually improved - and if you like you can verify this yourself, with diffs of the Open Source "Darwin" project. That's what is at the heart of OS X. Microsoft don't let you do that.

    Apple users tend to stick with the same hardware for a longer time in part because new machine are announced less often but also because since OS X the speed of new releases on the same hardware have improved, and upgrades have been less necessary.

    How appropriate that you name yourself theborg, stephenjborg@gmail.com. How funny if it's also your real name.
  • I fail to see how the stealth mode on the firewall will annoy legitimate users of the network, unless you define legitimate users to be something which I don't.

    Even based on the page you linked to, there is no information which would lead to other users on a network being annnoyed based on your system applying stealth mode. It could be inferred that problems with DHCP lease allocation could cause the same IP to be allocated to two users, but the ISP should have sufficient technical expertise to not get into such a situation (otherwise they shouldn't be an ISP). The only possible way that stealth mode would impact other users ability to use a network would be if the network gateway, or the ISP, applied stealth mode.

    The worst it could do to an end user is drop them off the network if they did not respond to ICMP pings, or heartbeats used by the ISP.

  • by acacio ( 658970 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @08:53PM (#12265282) Homepage
    Actually, I believe it's support for Exchange over HTTP (using extended HTTP request types).

    It is now a standard protocol and front-end with Exchange 2003.

    MS is finally moving away from MAPI and Outlook 2003 can even work completely in HTTP mode. There's a bit of non-compliancy going on over those HTTP requests, but at least it's a step in the right direction.
  • by sr180 ( 700526 ) on Sunday April 17, 2005 @09:14PM (#12265379) Journal
    Menu option to use Reverse Polish Notation (been too long since I studied CS, can't even remember what this should do or look like now - changes '=' button to 'enter', though)

    Reverse polish notation is stack like...

    Consider

    5 x (2+3) = 25

    In reverse polish notation, it is represented as:

    5 enter 2 enter 3 enter + x

    Simply,

    enter adds the previous number to the stack.
    + removes the top two numbers from the stack, performs an addition operation on them and returns the result to the stack.
    x peforms the same function as + but using multiply instead of addition.

    Hopefully this clears some of it up for you...

  • by MadAhab ( 40080 ) <slasher@nospam.ahab.com> on Sunday April 17, 2005 @10:52PM (#12265975) Homepage Journal
    Sometimes I love Apple, sometimes I hate them. Sometimes they do great software, sometimes they screw their users as bad as any commercial software company.

    This time, they done good. First: it looks like the iSight now can route audio through the system like any other mic; before, it was an expensive webcam with a crippled microphone. This should, for example, mean that Garageband can use it for recording audio input, which is convenient (and currently impossible). Second, the Audio Unit Lab is going to be interesting. It allows users to create Audio Units - which in Garageband means software instruments and which generally might give the Mac a built-in, midi-accessible sampler. It's hard to believe on the one hand - I doubt it would have features to encroach on, say Ableton Live - but on the other hand, with some pre-loaded audio, a cheapo Casio keyboard with midi ports, an isight, and Garageband, you'd practically be a moble radio station - podcasting anyone?

    And the Audio Unit Lab is on http://www.apple.com/pro/musicaudio/tiger.html and NOT on the 200 list!

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