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More on Apple/Motorola Joint Cell Phone Venture 293

1+(smarterThanYou) writes "Forbes.com has an article with updates on the previous Slashdot story on the Motorola/Apple iTunes compatible mobile phone. 'Apple Computer and Motorola could soon show us the mobile phone they are developing to play music purchased from Apple's iTunes online music store. 'We've said we have something coming on this in the first half of 2005 and we're definitely on schedule for that. Hopefully you'll be able to see more about it soon,' says Eddy Cue, vice president in charge of applications at Apple.'" Theories about this device showing up at the next MacWorld Expo abound.
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 17, 2004 @01:19AM (#11113223)
    Could this phone be the rumoured flash-based iPod?
  • Re:I see... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by 4what4 ( 196829 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @01:23AM (#11113257)
    well, motorola is the company that is going to be delivering the application, so I think the apple related logo at the top has got to go........

    anyway, Eddy Cue is about to be fired, leaking a comment a couple weeks before macworld, and a couple of days before christmas????? not that any of his comments are going to slow down the sale of any apple produced products, it is still a slip and he must be cut loose, there can't be any leaks in the apple ship
  • by xxblackice ( 547066 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @01:26AM (#11113269)
    it seems that this phone + mp3 player might be the convergence of the "flash based" ipod [appleinsider.com] and the apple/motorola venture. Mac heads gotta have their lifeblood flowing...rumors...mmmm
  • Mobile Device Teams (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wallitron ( 308146 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @01:29AM (#11113288) Homepage
    So many things are becoming an addition to the mobile phone, and different groups teaming up to cover their core areas. Obviously Sony are placed fairly well at the moment with their audio, imaging, comms and gaming devices. Who else will team up to compete?

    Personally, I'd love to see the Nintendo technologies meshed with Apple and Motorola. To me both Apple and Nintendo, lean towards highly usable, simple technology with high build quality.

    Who else is next?

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    Glen Williams [geocities.com]
  • Interesting. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nativespeaker ( 797751 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @01:37AM (#11113331)
    Hm...it doesn't look like they'll be able to use the name iPhone...Nuvio's got it locked up:

    http://www.iphone.com/ [iphone.com]
  • by ATomkins ( 564078 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @02:07AM (#11113465)
    For some reason, I don't think this idea of yours [mobile-gadgets.net] will take off...
  • by Bubba Bui ( 822268 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @03:34AM (#11113774)
    CodeWarrior was released in the early '90s by a small Canadian startup named Metrowerks. When Apple transitioned to the PowerPC and was only able to come up with an abominably slow, clunky and cumbersome development system for it (a set of multipass C++ compilers bundled with their ancient MPW evironment), Metrowerks saved the day by shipping CodeWarrior which had a kick-ass IDE (inspired by Think C, formerly Lightspeed) and a fast, efficient one pass compiler and linker. A few years later Motorola released a compiler plug-in for Codewarrior; then Metrowerks started trying to branch out into other areas such as embedded systems and cross-development systems. Eventually they were bought by Motorola by the end of the '90s.
  • by anagama ( 611277 ) <obamaisaneocon@nothingchanged.org> on Friday December 17, 2004 @03:58AM (#11113857) Homepage

    • You heard it here first, Apple will invent the iPhone, the first phone in the world to work as ... a PHONE!

    Motorola already had a real phone (and I still do). This beast [cnet.com] has a plain old LCD display (not color), takes no pictures, has survived numerous falls onto concrete, has battery life that won't quit, and a speakerphone that works fairly well. I almost switched carriers when I was told I would have to "upgrade" after they "upgraded" their network. It took 3 or 4 calls before I actually got someone who let me keep the phone. So I stuck with them. ... hmmm, I suck as a consumer sometimes - my phone is over 2.5 years old and until it breaks, I'll have zero desire for a new one.
  • How About iSync? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by DaedalusLogic ( 449896 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @04:04AM (#11113874)
    How about Apple and Motorola produce a phone that fully synchronizes with iSync for all the productivity items like contacts and calendars? The only folks that make such devices are Nokia and Siemens. I want everything down to the photo on the Address Book entry... plus decent enough e-mail for getting warning messages from the servers.
  • by macshit ( 157376 ) * <snogglethorpe@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Friday December 17, 2004 @04:49AM (#11113991) Homepage
    I suppose it's only a small thing, but I think Apple could at least bring their good design sense to bear.

    For all the huge number of cell-phone makers and phones, about 70% of them are completely awful in design, and most of the rest merely OK; even manuf.s who are normally good at product design, like Sony, seem to completely lose it when it comes to cell-phones (in Sony's case, they seem to be partnering with Ericson, so perhaps it's the latter's fault).
  • by Boss Sauce ( 655550 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @05:13AM (#11114049) Homepage Journal
    ...a Bluetooth stereo headset like this Blueant rig [mrgadget.com.au]. The biggest problems seem to be (1) a fragmented US cell phone market and (2) limited Bluetooth capabilities on the few phones that have it at all. Wouldn't it take a large company to crack these two nuts, and couldn't they be cracked by dealing with manufacturers and service providers at the same time?

    Apple's iPod hardware buddy HP seems to sell might-look-good-in-white, curiously out-of-stock bluetooth stereo headphones [hp.com], but without a mic. Hmmm...

  • by commodoresloat ( 172735 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @05:19AM (#11114075)
    But maybe he's had a change of heart.

    Remember when tabbed browsing in Safari would never happen because it violated Apple GUI guidelines?

    I hope he has had a change of heart because an apple phone would kick ass. Assuming it was a PDA too, not just a cell phone with a button that allows you to empty your wallet at the iTMS.

  • by c4miles ( 249464 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @05:52AM (#11114221) Homepage
    About that #14... is there a reason behind it,or did U2 really think that it was 4?

    On UK radio recently, Bono was asked this question - his response was a non-committal "Oh, OK, we may have had a few beers the night we wrote that one.".
  • by dtmos ( 447842 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @07:25AM (#11114537)
    Check your renters'/homeowners' associations.

    This happens in my area, too, and it's caused by the NIMBY attitude of people when they see a cell phone tower. Even if the cellular provider proposes a camouflaged tower (one that looks like a tree, etc.), they are beaten back by the pseudoscience wackos threatening health problems. They've even taken out existing towers ("Too close to the schools--think of the children!"), which I suspect is why you remember your MetroPCS phone fondly. As a result, my nearest cell tower is a zillion miles away and, like you, I have no coverage indoors.
  • by tdhillman ( 839276 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @09:04AM (#11114833)
    The nature of cell phones these days is that they are basically free- unless Apple markets a product that will be free bundled with service, they won't be able to make a dent in the market. Apple's greatest successes have come when they have truly energized the market or created something "different." There are far too many playrs already in the cell phone market for Apple to gain substantial market share by grabbing at an elusive golden ring.

    The iPod was (and is) still a revolutionary product that will eventually come back to the field. I can't see Apple defining the playing field in cell phones.
  • by daveschroeder ( 516195 ) * on Friday December 17, 2004 @10:47AM (#11115456)
    http://treomac.com/v-web/portal/cms/modules.php?na me=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=32 [treomac.com]

    I can throw a little more gas onto the Apple phone rumors. I was on a train this weekend, watching an episode of the Simpsons on my Treo600. The gentleman sitting across from me asked me how I liked the phone. I told him I loved it and we began a tech conversation. He mentioned that he worked for Motorola. I told him I was a Macintosh consultant, and then he dropped the bomb! "I've got a scoop for you", he teased.

    Apparently some of his associates had been telling him earlier in the week about an Apple branded phone that had been circulating around the office at Motorola. The phone had Motorola components, but most certainly had Apple brandings on it. He said that he did not have a chance to handle the phone, but that his direct supervisor did. The phone was "sleek and sexy" in her words. He mentioned that there was talk amongst the people who had seen it that itunes and iphoto would factor into this device somehow. They also said that the phone had a slot on the top (media slot?) as well as what looked to be a usb 2.0 port on the bottom.

    All very interesting. He gave me his card, so I'll be sure to press him for more details in the coming weeks.

    Stay Tuned!
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    Also, from another source:

    It's basically the successor to the Motorola E398 [phonescoop.com], but with iTunes, and extensive Apple influence and iPod integration. I haven't seen it yet, but my info is direct from Moto top people.

    The current Motorola E398 was a tri-band GSM bar form factor phone, with a large screen, TransFlash slot, Bluetooth, camera, media player, speakerphone, and FM tuner. And since this offering is GSM, and Steve Jobs has twice trotted out Cingular CEO Stephen Carter at Macworld keynotes, and given other carriers' resistance to the idea of iTunes on a phone (for reasons of either not wanting to provide bandwidth for such a service at a reasonable cost, OR being opposed to having full computer/device connectivity via Bluetooth bypassing their networks), it would appear that Cingular/AT&T might be a good candidate to carry such a device.

    And for all those who think that Motorola phones suck OR are only basing your opinion on NEXTEL phones, trust me: they've gotten a LOT better, and actually have some excellent offerings (e.g., RAZR V3 [phonescoop.com] and v710 [phonescoop.com], Verizon crippling aside).
  • by for_usenet ( 550217 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @11:07AM (#11115626)

    I have to admit I'm a bit curious about all the effort and publicity surrounding this, but I guess with Apple and Motorola being former bedroom buddies and with iTunes and Apple as hot as they are right now, anything involving either would make news.

    Most of Apple's functions (Bluetooth, MP3, AAC, 3GPP, contact synchroniztion) already work with Nokia's Symbian platform right now, except for iTunes' DRM - which, admittedly, is the show-stopper. But why would you not also try to partner with, or license your stuff to, another company who has done much of the grunt work already ?

  • Samsung Uproar (Score:4, Interesting)

    by onthefenceman ( 640213 ) <szoepf@hotmai[ ]om ['l.c' in gap]> on Friday December 17, 2004 @11:08AM (#11115639)

    IIRC the Samsung Uproar [samsungtelecom.com] was the first phone to come out with mp3 playback capability. For the technology available at the time (2001) it was a great device - 64MB flash player with a decent phone.

    One of the best features of that phone was completely unintentional - since it had stereo headphones for both phone and mp3 player usage you could have two people talk on the phone at the same time without having to use a speakerphone by giving each person one of the earpieces.

  • Re:Interesting. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by mystereys ( 673518 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @11:40AM (#11115972) Homepage Journal
    However, http://www.iphone.org/ [iphone.org] leads to the apple website...
  • by ReelOddeeo ( 115880 ) on Friday December 17, 2004 @12:44PM (#11116744)
    Isn't this the same news organization that has such wonderful writers as Daniel Lyons, and publishes glowing articles about what a wonderful case SCO has? Wern't they buying SCO's story even as of August 2004?
  • The last analyst report I saw pointed out that the entire revenue from legal downloads amounted to 5% of the current revenue from mobile phone ringtones.

    If I was Apple I'd be selling ringtones on the ITMS.

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