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.Mac Storage Now 250MB 77

Lycestra writes "Apple today announced .Mac users now have 'More room for everything you do online' with an increase from 100MB iDisk and 15MB Mail to 250MB total. The space is shared between iDisk and Mail, but users of .Mac have control over how it is shared. A long overdue change, in my opinion. It's still not 1GB, and Apple openly states that for those who want it, 1GB would cost another $50 a year. I guess the Apple cup-of-tea just got a little bigger, but it still feels like it's at room temperature."
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.Mac Storage Now 250MB

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  • Bandwith or storage? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by zygote ( 134175 ) on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @04:40PM (#10387615)
    I wonder if their hesitation to go to a gig is less due to storage space available and more the traffic that would be generated? Bandwith consumption is likely of little concern to Google, shoot they probably get worried when it drops.
  • by nine-times ( 778537 ) <nine.times@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @05:15PM (#10388038) Homepage
    True... Also, Gmail doesn't include pop3/imap access, free software, a homepage, a backup program, etc. The most comparable service is Spymac, which (even if you don't like the community,) is a pretty impressive service.

    I'm not sure why other companies, especially google, haven't gotten into this sort of package deal. Something that lets you work online a little better- some sort of portal/hosting service aimed at individuals rather than businesses.

    It'd be nice if they offered some basic PHP/MySQL functionality. I mean, if you're just hosting a blog or something, a full domain hosting might be overkill, and how much does it cost, really, to make this functionality available?

    Another feature that might be nice is if you Apple provided the option to have your e-mail attachments automatically stripped off and sent to your iDisk. Then you leave a link to the e-mail to the attachment. Specifics would need to be worked out, but it should work.

  • by GreenKiwi ( 221281 ) on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @05:42PM (#10388401)
    Hmmm.

    $150 a year for 1gb of off site backup. That doesn't sound like that bad an idea. Does Apple say that they will back things up and guarantee that your data will be there? If so, this isn't that bad a deal at all.

    kiwi
  • by MyDixieWrecked ( 548719 ) on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @06:13PM (#10388719) Homepage Journal
    The strength of .Mac is more than just iDisk and the IMAP mail (which I was actually just looking into slashmail because of their unlimited mailbox size). .Mac also has the iSync-link for syncing your bookmarks (which isn't so hot, since I barely use them nowadays), addressbook (w00t!!!), and iCal (useful when I remember to use it... I need a new palm).

    Although, I do agree that for 100$ a year, you SHOULD get 1gb, at least... I mean, there are a lot of other, cheaper alternatives (slashmail) that are better suited for your everyday geek. In fact, I think that for 100$ a year, you should get 250mb iDisk and 1gb email, and for the extra 50$, you should get a 1gb iDisk and 2gb email.
  • by cjpez ( 148000 ) on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @06:34PM (#10388902) Homepage Journal
    But what are you doing using something like .Mac for big file transfers like that? The data has to be uploaded from your one box and downloaded from the other. What's the benefit of having a middleman in there? I guess if you're not comfortable with being able to set up some kind of server-type situation like that, but if you're interested in having a generally large data storage facility, you're better off getting an actual dedicated fileserver somewhere in the end.

    But okay, so .mac does include iDisk, it seems, from looking at the homepage, so they do intend for people to at least partially use them as a datastore. This makes .mac rather fundamentally different from the email serviecs offering the ridiculous 1GB storage space though. Your gmail account isn't designed to hold data like that (regardless of whatever someone's done with gmailfs), and you can bet that they'll frown on anyone trying to use it as anything but an actual webmail client. Maybe the other free webmail services offer more, I guess.

    I suppose that I'm just of the opinion that if you find something like 250MB too restrictive, you should really be going with something that's directly suited to your task (ie: just transferring the files directly to your box, or purchasing some actual space somewhere) rather than complaining that you're not getting a 1gb limit.

  • by hai.uchida ( 814492 ) <hai.uchida@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @06:37PM (#10388918)
    What on earth do you need to store over there that'll take up more than 250mb?

    iDisk isn't just for backups. It's also an extremely convenient way to exchange media files. I use it all the time to swap Photoshop resources and find it much more convenient than using FTP (since I don't use .Mac e-mail, I have no problem creating a temporary password to let a client or collaborator have access to my iDisk.)

    Considering what a staple Final Cut Pro is to Apple, I could see where the ability to exchange raw video files (or DVD Studio Pro or Motion projects, which also tend to be huge) via a 1gig+ iDisk would come in handy... Uploading and downloading would of course be time consuming, but it would still be faster, cheaper and less hassle than using FedEx.
  • by PsychoSpunk ( 11534 ) on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @07:48PM (#10389523)
    even the original 100MB is plenty o'space. I think this a two pronged decision to (1) curb detractors with the Gmail comparison (totally Apples V. Oranges to me)

    But the 100MB only applies to the iDisk. The previous email limit was 15MB for the entire mailbox! Trust me, that's an easy limit to hit, and hit, and hit.

    This is all well and good that they upgraded, but I took my money elsewhere this year (my bank) because I feel that Apple did not treat its subscribers fairly by not informing us what to expect as far as upgrades go. A lot of people say that it's worth gambling on features in Tiger, but I say hooey to that. I'm paying for services, and if their services fail to meet my needs, I'll go elsewhere.

    Now the services meet my needs, but I just spent the last 2 weeks switching my online identity, only to have the upgrade occur today. If they are okay with announcing products such as Tiger, or the iMac G5, or the Dual G5 PowerMac and making the consumer wait, why can't they respect a currently paying customer that's supposed to be a guaranteed money source by letting me know that my service needs will be fulfilled. That would have been fair to the initial subscribers (since the iTools -> .Mac switch occurred), and it wouldn't have lost any money. It'd be kind of a 2nd year anniversary party, and Apple's got gifts for everybody!
  • by Graymalkin ( 13732 ) * on Wednesday September 29, 2004 @08:21PM (#10389741)
    Tiger's server version is going to include Blojsom [blojsom.com] which is a Blosxom workalike written in Java. It is entirely possible at some point .Mac will include a blog service based on Blojsom. I think it would be a good addition to the .Mac package because to me it seems like a natural extension of simply having a website. It'd be cool to be able to just write an entry in TextEdit, save it to your iDisk, and voilà you've got a new post to your blog.
  • by OlivierB ( 709839 ) on Thursday September 30, 2004 @06:34AM (#10392561)
    I have been using Yahoo's 50 MB email service. It recently became 2gb. Which is I think more than enough, especially since I use pop3 and download everything to my machine.

    I don't really care that they increase it anymore.

    However I WISH they had full https access. Currently only the sign-on is optionnaly SSLed, however after authentification you are back to plain http. This means that in my company, the proxy administrators probably have a clear view of what I am sending and receiving.

    Does anybody know if .Mac offers full SSL access to their services? ie the address book, calendar, mail and Idisk? If it does I am signing up right now.

    Now inly if Yahoo would come out with mac clients for the address, calendar and even briefcase sync (they did have at one point a win98 client to mount the briefcase however they never fully developed it as I assume this was a bandwith hog...)
  • Everything is SSL, including WebDAV (for your iDisk & iSync).
  • by biftek ( 145375 ) on Thursday September 30, 2004 @09:42AM (#10393658)
    Everything is SSL, including WebDAV (for your iDisk & iSync).
    As far as I can tell, the actual WebDAV isn't SSL. The authentication seems to be, but not the actual remove webdav mount (the webdavfs package at http://opensource.apple.com/ [apple.com] seems to confirm this). Could be wrong, but I couldn't see any evidence of it.
  • by killbill! ( 154539 ) on Thursday September 30, 2004 @02:01PM (#10396957) Homepage
    ... is to add an iTMS backup storage feature to the iDisk.

    Right now if you happen to lose your hard disk (and didn't make a CD/DVD backup earlier), you'll lose your iTMS-purchased songs.
    Which sucks, since you have to buy them again.

    If Apple were to offer an iTunes backup feature, it'd definitely be a killer feature. This would be one of the last things that still make me reluctant to ditch CDs for good.

    Besides, they'd save on storage and bandwidth, as they would only need to keep on the iDisk the key used to generate the end user's file from the original file. Whenever the user wants to retrieve their files, the .Mac server would recreate it on the fly from the iTMS servers.

    They could advertise "back up 20GB of iTMS songs" while it'd actually eat up only a couple MB.

    By the way, if you're living in Germany or Austria, make sure you check out GMX.net, a free e-mail service that is offering 1GB (combined) for free for e-mail and file storage, or 5GB for 3 EUR/month, 10GB for 5 EUR/month.
    They also have a WebDAV client and their features are unmatched worldwide.
    (not affiliated in any way, just a happy customer since 1998 ;))
  • by jht ( 5006 ) on Thursday September 30, 2004 @03:29PM (#10397892) Homepage Journal
    I upped my iDisk to 235MB (the max), since I don't even use the mail account. Between the iDisk (which I use heavily), and the sync features, I'm perfectly happy paying my $100 per year for the service.

    Granted, I have one referral credit as well (so I'm actually paying $79.95), but between iSync, the disk space, and all the goodies I've been able to download I've gotten very good value from my .Mac account. I thinkk the $100 asking price is the absolute most I'd pay, but it's good for starters at least.

    The only thing I'd like to see addressed is easier integration of other data sources into iSync. I know that's something that Tiger is supposed to address, but I'd really like to see iSync support devices other than Palm (discounting for now the somewhat kludgy PocketMac suite of tools), and support some easy way of doing DIY sync modules. Plus I'd like to see Entourage supported in iSync by either Apple or Microsoft. That would add a little more value.
  • A great deal for me! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Archeopteryx ( 4648 ) <benburch@ p o b ox.com> on Thursday September 30, 2004 @05:50PM (#10399285) Homepage
    I use two 1 GB .Mac accounts to host a high-bandwidth site and would have paid the original price!

    I send out about 60 GB of data a day from my .Mac accounts.

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