Detailed Reviews of Mac OS X "Tiger" Preview 467
An anonymous reader writes "AppleInsider has been publishing some very detailed articles on Apple's new Mac OS X 10.4 'Tiger' operating system, which include numerous screenshots of the system. So far the publication has discussed overall installation and Spotlight search technology, Safari with RSS, a new Mail revision with
Smart Mailbox technology, and a websearch enabled Mac OS X Help application."
Not much news... (Score:3, Interesting)
Smart Folders == Labels? (Score:5, Interesting)
It looks like Apple caught on quickly to the Gmail label paradigm shift away from folders and has put "smart folders" into Mail 2.0 for 10.4.
IMHO labels and smart folders are long overdue for mail. They've been usefull in iTunes for months and just make good sense data that does not belong in only one bin.
photocopiers? (Score:4, Interesting)
You mean like Office2003? And even OfficeXP, I think.
I'm just sayin'...
-bZj
Been running it for about a week (Score:1, Interesting)
Upgrade questions (Score:3, Interesting)
or in Evolution (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Smart Folders == Labels? (Score:5, Interesting)
Apple had this feature (save searches for later use) in the ill fated Copland preview in the mid 1990's. in fact i got the impression that apple was resurrecting many features from Copland during the WWDC keynote (see Automator)
Fantastic Idea! (Score:5, Interesting)
The best part is, if spammers start using spell-check and correcting their mail before sending (changing V1@gr@ to Viagra) it will be caught by the spam filters instead! It's a win-win situation, less spam and correct spelling...
Search, Indexing (Score:1, Interesting)
Are they maintaining frequently-updated indices?
Will it be a constant drag on system performance, as with MS's old Fast Find, or their current full text indexing?
Will all 10 Mac OSX applications support Spotlight?
"Smart" buzzwords (Score:3, Interesting)
"Smart" would be a filtering system that recognizes senders based on last name, and realize that people named "Smith" are probably in my family. "Smart" would automatically recognize messages about the Bernoulli account after a few back and forths and organize them by sender and time (kind of like how I have my filing cabinets). When it matches a personal assistant, it's "smart".
Re:Upgrade questions (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:or in Evolution (Score:2, Interesting)
A lot of people have been using the concept of search query defined foldering for a very long time now.
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Re:Only DVD? (Score:3, Interesting)
Why RSS if Safari is still "buggy?" (Score:2, Interesting)
That said, I'm wondering if Apple has improved Safari to be more compatible with websites. And if not, why not before doing this RSS application?
When I do testing of websites with Mozilla 1.x and FireBird 0.9 on my PC, I run into some "damn you Internet Explorer"-specific pages that limit the features that I see with these alternative browsers. However, when I use Safari (which I thought was loosely based on the Mozilla project's browser engine), I see even more rendering problems than in the other two browsers.
Do I just need to spend more time with Safari, or are there still major issues with how it renders some pages and code? And if the latter is true, was it wise for Apple to add another Safari-esque feature with this RSS application when they need to fix some rendering issues with what could be a really sweet browser?
It's sad, but on many pages that work fine in Mozilla 1.x and FireBird 0.9 on a PC, I have to send designers who want to see their work BACK to IE for Mac so that the pages properly render what they designed. Of course, my code could just really suck too.
IronChefMorimoto
I'd like Mail rules like those in Pine (Score:3, Interesting)
For example, if I receive e-mail that contains at least one e-mail address containing mycompany.com, then I want the mailer, upon selecting Reply, to auto-set the From header to my work e-mail address rather than my home e-mail address. (All my e-mail routes my my home Linux server and is split into mailbox files by procmail.)
Anybody know of a GUI mail client with rules like Pine's? (Oh, and it has to be able to support IMAP over SSL and SMTP AUTH too.)
research & development (Score:1, Interesting)
Of course, all the "new" stuff is just evolutionary and nothing revolutionary....
AC
Re:photocopiers? (Score:3, Interesting)
Apple had a billboard truck driving across the street that said C:\NGRULAT.ONS (making fun of the old DOS file length limitation. They shouldn't have been so cocky because Win95 had 255 character file names, while Mac was stuck at 32.)
Re:Search, Indexing (Score:3, Interesting)
It will drag the system somewhat since this file will be wquite large and there wll be frequent read/writes to it, but the OS seems to do this quite transparently and I havn't noticed any noticable drag. OSX does multitask quite good and my computer mainly sits idle anyway.
Spotlight is an API that developeras can use istead of building theri own search tool. Old apps will not automagically benefit from Spotlight.
Mor info on spotlight:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/spo
Re:Upgrade questions (Score:3, Interesting)
As a general note: Apple has rarely sent out paid upgrades as anything but a combination of both a full and upgrade installer. They are almost always bootible media (CD's or DVD's) that have disk tools on them so that you can choose to erase/repartition the disk, and "clean" upgrade options (in MacOS X's case it offers to move the "system" folder aside and the option to migrate user folders and system settings).
Next year when this is available for sale you will undoubtedly be able to move any computer capable of using 10.4 to the new OS, probably from MacOS 9.2 onward (since all of the computers that meet the minimum requirements would not run lower anyways).
Re:before anyone starts on Dashboard (Score:5, Interesting)
http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_
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"Konfabulator = (Custom XML format) + (Custom JavaScript engine)
Dashboard, on the other hand, is based on WebCore, the underlying open source layout and scripting engine behind Safari. Dashboard gadgets are indeed scripted using JavaScript, the same language used by Konfabulator, but Dashboard uses the JavaScript engine that's built into the system. And for UI layout, Dashboard gadgets are specified using HTML and CSS -- using the same rendering engine as Safari.
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Do you see how huge this is? How it opens the door to gadget development to anyone with web design experience? Indeed, I've read the preliminary Dashboard developer documentation (generously provided by a source attending WWDC), and it is outstanding from the perspective of making gadgets easy-to-create.
The idea that Dashboard is derivative because it's scripted via JavaScript is missing the point. Dashboard isn't using JavaScript just to use JavaScript -- it's using JavaScript because Dashboard gadgets are little floating Web Kit views."
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The article also argues, and offers documentation in support of the position, that you can trace the idea for such widgets all the way back to the first "desk accessories" like the puzzle and calculator from 1984. Then combines both points to paint Dashboard as a natural outgrowth of fundmental Apple ideas.
While Konfabulator is an implementation of similar concepts, they were not the inventors of them and their chosen means of implementation makes their software practically useless to Apple from the buy-and-incorporate perspective.
Re:or in Evolution (Score:3, Interesting)
I suspect that is the origin.
Other Ideas Borrowed from GMail (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:iTunes as a Teaching Tool (Score:3, Interesting)
Of course, I'd heard all about its Unix base, awesome interface etc but it was the sheer elegance of both iTunes and the iPod that triggered me to take serious action.
Re:Most inconsistent user interfaces (Score:5, Interesting)
That's *really* a stretch. The purpose of a web browser is to browse the web, not manage a list of bookmarks. That reasoning can be applied to just about any app (Mail uses a source list of mailboxes; Xcode uses a source list of project files, etc). Safari and iChat are metal because Steve wanted them to be; then the HIG were retroactively changed to make it a vaguely justifiable choice.
Re:Most inconsistent user interfaces (Score:4, Interesting)
I challenge you to find an Apple-made program using brushed-metal that doesn't conform to the above guideline.
Apple Remote Desktop v 2.0.
Good pic [apple.com] if you haven't seen it yet. I think it's 100% stupid, too, and I don't mind the metal on most apps, really; but for an Enterprise Admin tool, it adds "pretty" when you really need better efficiency.
Higher utility? (Score:2, Interesting)
Also, for applications that just use files, Spotlight will still be able to find these documents based on filename and other metadata. For my personal use, I predict that I will use Spotlight all the time for searching files, contacts, e-mails, and maybe songs/photos (which will all be supported since I just use the Apple applications for these tasks), and so whether or not 3rd-party apps support it will not be a big factor to me.
I don't know much about Automator, their new GUI-based batch system, but I'm guessing that it will be much more widely-used than AppleScript. You'd think there would be a way to write shims to let Automator talk to apps that have AppleScript bindings and leverage that capability for more users.