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PowerBook Disassembly Guide 226

kwiens writes "We've been slaving away for months to create the FixIt Guide Series-- a set of Free-As-In-Beer step by step PowerBook disassembly instructions. Maybe waiting another 6-18 months for those PowerBook G5's will be easier if you fix your old PowerBook now (or just use the Guides as a starting point for that killer PowerBook case mod). Guides are up now for the PowerBook G3 Wallstreet, Lombard, Pismo and Titanium PowerBook G4 Mercury, Onyx, DVI."
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PowerBook Disassembly Guide

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  • by caffeineboy ( 44704 ) <{ude.uso} {ta} {22.eromdiks}> on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:38AM (#9106044)
    I think I remember a website that explained how to get to the second DIMM in a flatpanel iMac got shut down because apple didn't want people breaking their computers.

    What do you think the odds are that this site will have the same kind of problems?
  • by adzoox ( 615327 ) * on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:42AM (#9106082) Journal
    I'm all for people wanting to save money. These seem like great how to guides with clear instructions and great pictures.

    That said, what i don't like is novices that "cheapskates" that buy these things, use them, screw up their computer while they are still under warranty, then take them to a service provider (me, others) and then have the units fixed for free - it's no less than fraud - because usually someone that messes their unit up after doing something like this doesn't disclose that information.

    I have had many a customer tell me that NO ONE has ever opened their computer (including them) - I open it up and there are screws missing, the magnetic sheild has fingerprints on it, etc etc.

    The funniest thing, I saw ALL of this on an iBook a while back. The customer said they hadn't touched it. There was a long blonde hair inside and one of "these manuals" on the hard drive.

    Pssst: the customer has along haired blonde.
  • Or Worse (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mfh ( 56 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:47AM (#9106139) Homepage Journal
    > That said, what i don't like is novices that "cheapskates" that buy these things, use them, screw up their computer while they are still under warranty, then take them to a service provider (me, others) and then have the units fixed for free.

    Likely much worse when they sell them on Ebay [ebay.com] after messing with them. Obviously not all powerbooks on Ebay have been modded, but some of them might have been. Caveat Emptor.
  • by jcostantino ( 585892 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:49AM (#9106162) Homepage
    are these manuals better or worse than Apple's (or the same?)

    Apple's manuals are generally OK if you need to disassemble stuff but their diagnosis flow charts SUCK.

    Wow, I actually got a little nostalgic :) two months ago I was up to my elbows in broken Macintosh, now I'm sitting in front of a MDD and flanked by a bunch of PC's in my cushy corporate job :)

  • wallstree pb g3 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by zenrandom ( 708587 ) * on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:50AM (#9106172) Journal
    I've used one of the take apart manuals for my wallstreet g3. It had the infamous solder joint on the powerboard problem (solder and superglue fixed that) the hard drive was one of the 8gb ones that had a really low mtbf... which has been replaced with a 20gb 5400 rpm... the processor card wouldn't recognize memory in the top slot so it's been replaced with a sonnet g3/500 and 384 mb of ram now. The take apart guides are nice, common sense is good, patience for that first time you take it apart. Make sure you have all the screws out! The g3 books feel like you are going to break them that first time you pull them open. Fun though, to play around inside your apple.
  • Well, i can understand anyone in the service industry hating those "cheapskate" "unkowledgable" "freaky" people that can't even put a lightbulb in a socket, let alone install their own airport card. But, for us out there that at least think we know what we are doing, this is much appreciated. I know that I have questions though... I seem to have the most wonderful luck (NE Sarcasm) buying computer equipment just before it get's outmoded by another update to hardware. Case in point : The IIvx I bought many a year back. One of the worst Road Apples made. It perves me that Apple doesn't release this info, even for the older equipment. I can understand something that is as of yet still covered by them, but to have to dig extremely hard (usually) for the info, well, ERGH. I just hope that i can get some more ram in this baby. I can't wait for that nanograss (someone told me it was self rolling?)
  • I can't believe it! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Stud1y ( 598856 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:00AM (#9106256) Homepage
    in a room full of computer dorks, someone says things like "don't open your own case and fix your machine..." ! isn't this what helps to progress the technology? why does everyone need to stand around like they're our mommys (happy mothers-day btw..!) and hold our hand and tell us "no, don't open your 3k laptop you might break something No Shit! If you're dumb enough to open the case, and not know what you're doing its your fault. Most lame-ass n00bie computer users aren't going to be poppin' the case on their machines. argh, i just can't believe all the negitive 'don't do it!' posts Also, why the fuck do you need a guide to take screws out of a computer? I opened my powerbook two days after i bought it.
  • Compared to Dell (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Xenna ( 37238 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:16AM (#9106401)
    Dell has clear instructions on taking their laptops apart (and putting back together again) on their website.

    When I bought my current X300, I considered a 12" powerbook as well, but the 3 year warranty period on the Dell made the difference.

    OTOH, when the hard disk died the on-site engineer that came to fix it was so clumsy that I had to do some of the taking apart myself (that included finding the howto's on the site).

    So, what exactly am I trying to say here..? ;-)
  • by caitsith01 ( 606117 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:40AM (#9106653) Journal
    Is anyone aware of a repository of similar information for other (non-Apple) products? This kind of stuff is always so hard to find on the net - and not just computers, it seems to be pretty hard to find info about all kinds of electronic devices that should be reasonably easy to fix with the appropriate guidance.

    Two recent examples I have had: a Panasonic VCR, for which I could not find anything at all, and the wiring in a 1990 Mitsubishi, which I did eventually locate on some acid-induced Japanese website.
  • by adzoox ( 615327 ) * on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:50AM (#9106758) Journal
    Actually that's more common than you think - to have a "reassembly surplus"

    Here's a tip:

    Draw 4 diagrams of the iBook or PowerBook. Make them neat pictures (maybe even use Photoshop.)

    Print them out. Places the screws on the places on the picture where they go.

    This is what I've done. When I get a PowerBook or iBook in for repair I just print out the four different sides of screw removal:

    Outer shell bottom
    Outer shell top/display
    Inside logic board/magnetic sheild bottom
    Inside logic board/ top

    You can also draw places where cables go too.

    Once you have it on your computer you can print them out again in the future.

  • by dexterpexter ( 733748 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @11:23AM (#9107112) Journal
    But I believe that it was Cowboyneal who found the most efficient way to disassemble a Powerbook. [cowboyneal.org]

    He found this method of disassembling the powerbook after a long battle with his failing hardrive, and less than helpful Apple technicians.

    Before the disassembly, Cowboyneal was heard to say [cowboyneal.org]:

    "I got my PowerBook back today, but it's not nearly as nice as I'd hoped. The technician where I brought it failed to image the drive (like he said he would) before shipping it to Apple so now while the hard drive works perfectly again, I've lost all my files. The point of catching the hard drive failure early before losing any data has now been completely negated. Looking at my PowerBook which is now clean as a slate makes me just want to smash it, knowing the hours of work I've lost." (emphasis mine)

    I asked pudge about it and his response was:
    "It deserved it"
  • Re:Compared to Dell (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nordicfrost ( 118437 ) * on Monday May 10, 2004 @11:55AM (#9107445)
    So, what exactly am I trying to say here..?



    I dunno, but I bought a Dell øaptop from a friend that does Dell service. He thre in a cracked screen spare laptop that "trust me, it'll bee needed", as he said. And sure enough. After one week, the notch that holds the screen to the casing (That thingy that locks the computer) broke. Dell sent a new one in metal, to replace the flimsy platic thing. B fixed it. Soon, the CD drive went, one from spare. The plastic aroud the screen cracked, replace. The keybaord went south, replaced. The battery was worse than a mistreated iPod, one half year of service fom that one. Replaced. The floppy chocked, el replaco! The spare laptop was functional to some degree, with an external screen, but the the logic baord went. And the the logic board went on the other one as well, and I bought an Apple.

  • Re:Warranty? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by skiflyer ( 716312 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @12:41PM (#9107864)
    THERE IS NOT ONE PART ON MOST LAPTOP MOTHERBOARDS YOU THE USER COULD FIX ANYWAY!

    BS... there are many parts inside of laptops that a certain subset of users can fix without difficulty. I definitely don't do it regularly, but I've been inside my laptop to resolder broken points. The only difficulty I had was keeping track of all the screws.

    Additionally with more and more laptops coming with built in wireless cards, there's more reason for an individual to be inside their laptop.
  • by bzzt ( 151412 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @01:08PM (#9108124)
    heresy, i know, but if anyone knows of a shop that does a TWO mouse button mod for a powerbook, please let us know.

    i really like apple's laptops but the single mouse button is the insurmountable barrier to entry. if i could get two mouse buttons a powerbook would be my next machine.
  • by andy55 ( 743992 ) * on Monday May 10, 2004 @04:59PM (#9110637) Homepage
    I owned a first gen G4 Titanium powerbook and it got a lot of use...

    Around the 2 year point, the top third of all the scan lines started to become intermittent. As the weeks went on, intermittent turned into off, and now the middle third started going intermittent. With the thing far out of warranty, knowing full well it'd make more sense to get a new one (vs. get it serviced), I decided to roll the dice and assume it was a (fixable) loose connection somewhere in the screen to the main board...

    Weeelll... It turns out the back plate of the screen is *glued* and *snapped* to the front side, making disassembly of the screen a one-way process...

    Unfortunately, firmly reconnecting everything has no effect, leaving me with the bad screen, and a mass of back-paneling that no longer can attach to the front side. Seeing there was no point in having the screen at this point (after a couple weeks, the middle third of the scanlines was off, and now the bottom third was intermittent), I simply removed the screen completely...

    Thus, I now have a "headless" G4 TiBook w/ a monitor attached to serve stuff--it's not so portable anymore! :^)
  • Re:Warranty? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Psyborgue ( 699890 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @11:16PM (#9113539) Journal
    Perhaps I jump into things too quickly but i have worked on laptop motherboards and re-soldered certain loose battery connections on the motherboard. Perhaps it is risky, but when Dell wanted 450 to replace the MB and the old laptop only costed me 800, i figured i'd take the risk. If you pay attention and remember how things came apart, taking photos if necessary at times, there is really no reason you can't modify a laptop in the same manner as a desktop. I also yanked the winmodem out of the mini-pci slot. On the other hand, i have three laptops, one is a Powerbook 17inch g4 1.5ghz with 1GB ram and 128 mb video ram, the other two are fairly worthless. I will wait a year (warrenty to expire) or so before i crack that baby open.
  • Re:Right... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by FredFnord ( 635797 ) on Tuesday May 11, 2004 @05:28PM (#9120768)
    I got an AlBook with the white-spots-on-screen problem. (I got it because they had it for $300 off at the Apple store, because of the screen... they told me I could send it in for repair but not bring it back for the money-back guarantee, which suited me fine.)

    I called Apple up a couple months later and told them I had to send them my laptop to fix the screen, and it had also (a few times, maybe one time in ten) turned itself off when I unplugged the DVI cable. The next day I got the box. Two weeks later I got a call saying, 'Uh, we don't have your computer yet, are you sure you sent it?' Well, er, actually, I hadn't been able to live without it for long enough to send it in. But it was nice of them to call.

    I eventually took a friday and a monday off. On thursday evening at 5:30 I dropped the box off at an Airborne Express location and went home. On monday at 10 AM I got a call from one of my coworkers asking if I wanted to come in and pick up my laptop. So they got it on Friday around noon (according to the tracking number) and sent it back out on Friday sometime later in the day. And not only was the screen flawless, but it has never turned itself off when disconnecting the DVI connector since.

    Got to admit, as hard as I am to impress, that impressed me.

    -fred

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