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PowerBook Disassembly Guide 226

kwiens writes "We've been slaving away for months to create the FixIt Guide Series-- a set of Free-As-In-Beer step by step PowerBook disassembly instructions. Maybe waiting another 6-18 months for those PowerBook G5's will be easier if you fix your old PowerBook now (or just use the Guides as a starting point for that killer PowerBook case mod). Guides are up now for the PowerBook G3 Wallstreet, Lombard, Pismo and Titanium PowerBook G4 Mercury, Onyx, DVI."
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PowerBook Disassembly Guide

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  • Warranty? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Marxist Commentary ( 461279 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:37AM (#9106031) Homepage
    Will this void my warranty? I paid sooo much for my Powerbook, I'd like to keep the warranty intact.
  • by millahtime ( 710421 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:42AM (#9106080) Homepage Journal
    I don't think they can shut it down. You aren't trying to reverse engineer their technology. You aren't violating the DMCA. It would be like GM forcing down a website with instructions on how to mod your car. There is no grounds.
  • by hype7 ( 239530 ) <u3295110.anu@edu@au> on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:45AM (#9106111) Journal
    without meaning to sound like your father, it's the best thing you can do, especially for a valuable investment like an Apple laptop.

    They don't go wrong often, but when you pick the thing up and carry it round with you everywhere, inevitably some of the laptops develop issues. And portables can be expensive to fix.

    It's what, a couple of hundred dollars? Trust me, you'll make that back many times over if a hinge goes, or a screen dies, or whatever...

    -- james
  • Re:Warranty? (Score:5, Informative)

    by zenrandom ( 708587 ) * on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:46AM (#9106123) Journal
    Yes, it will void your warranty. Also if you shelled out the $300 for apple care it will void that. Doing anything besides a RAM upgrade, or possibly an airport/ap extreme card voids your warranty. These are the only consumer supported upgrades apple will support on the powerbook.
  • Hmmm.. (Score:5, Informative)

    by JayPee ( 4090 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @09:46AM (#9106127)
    These guides are great and all but if you hang around Apple specific hardware hacking forums enough, you'll come across the official Apple repair manuals which feature complete dissasembly guides, exploded views, etc.

    That said, I love being an Apple tech.. I get these goodies within a week of the product being released.
  • Right... (Score:2, Informative)

    by tomstdenis ( 446163 ) <tomstdenis@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:04AM (#9106282) Homepage
    1600$ laptop + 400$ warranty + 0$ self-mod case == useless warranty.

    This guide may be ok if you're past the manufacturers warranty and you didn't get an instore one...

    But for me, I got a 3yr [practically useless] warranty from Futureshop. I'll let them [or their sub-contractors] fix problems with my laptop.

    Though if I had todo it again I would probably a) not buy a laptop and b) not get an extended warranty. It's been nearly 60 days since I dropped of my laptop to have the hard drive replaced.

    nearly 90% of the time Futureshop had my laptop it was sitting in their warehouse awaiting transport...Such a waste.

    Tom
  • Re:Right... (Score:2, Informative)

    by tomcio.s ( 455520 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:15AM (#9106387) Homepage Journal
    Well, see here's your problem, you got suckered intot the 'special' new type of Futureshop warranty deal. Should have headed to bMac.

    They used to be so good (over the counter, no questions), then 30 day (my Sony DSC-717 is under this warranty) and now the 60 day fix or replace for refurb kit. It's just not worth it. Better save the pennies spent on that and use it for future upgrades.

    Good luck with getting the laptop back tho. When my cam broke (flash stopped popping up, they 'fixed' it by breaking the whole shebang- the camera wouldn't turn on at all, and then tried to make me sign the pick-up slip so that they can take it back for another 30 days.)

    Haven't bought anything from FutureShock since. Their parent company (BestBuy) is even worse.

    I know this is slightly off topic, but good info for anyone in Canada.
  • Re:free as in ... (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:16AM (#9106396)
    free as in beer means that it doesnt cost money. free as in speach is about freedom. freedom to copy the source code and modify it. freedom to redistribute it. those are just a few examples of free as in speech.
  • Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Informative)

    by caitsith01 ( 606117 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:18AM (#9106417) Journal
    Good old Apple... 'yes you bought it, no you can't touch/open/look at it'.

    Actually, in many countries/states, you *are* allowed to open/touch your own computer. It won't necessarily void your hardware warranty - you should check up on local laws, which will most likely override any bullshit Apple feed you in their warranty 'agreement'.

    For example, I know that in Australia you have a statutory warranty that will NOT be voided by opening up your computer or laptop or indeed installing new parts or removing old ones. After all, if something is kaput it is kaput whether you open your computer after it breaks or not. In fact, computer stores are not supposed to put those little 'warranty void if removed' stickers across the back of computer cases any more - it is an offence to try to deny that a statutory warranty exists.

    Of course, nothing you add to your computer will be covered by the manufacturer's warranty.
  • Re:Warranty? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:18AM (#9106420)
    As an apple tech at an authorized service center/reseller... theoretically yes it will void your warranty (but in theory communism works). Usually we can tell if a customer has been in a system (screws in wrong place etc.). If there is no physical damage to the part, freyed wires or anything. We can usually exchange it under warranty. Of course why would you be going into your powerbook if it is under warranty. Just ship it out to get fixed. Ram and Airport cards are always customer installable. Minus maybe the older 15's where you have to pop the bottom off. Just be careful! I've had repairs cost over a $1k just because he let his "friend" replace the hard drive in his flat pannel imac
  • Re:Right... (Score:5, Informative)

    by HeghmoH ( 13204 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:22AM (#9106466) Homepage Journal
    Apple extended warranties are very nice. Apple has this nasty habit of using Airborne Express overnight service for everything; you call them with a problem, and a guy delivers a box the next morning. You put the computer in the box and off it goes. They fix it more or less instantly, and it comes back within two or three days. They're not always like this, of course, but very often. All the more reason not to rip open the innards of your Apple portable!
  • by l0wland ( 463243 ) <l0wland.yahoo@com> on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:35AM (#9106606) Journal
    I did that once with my iBook/600Mhz, because the harddisk had died. Be prepared to the fact that de iBook is made up out of A LOT of plastic, and damage is done easily! Disassembling is very difficult compared to other laptops.

    What I used was the iBook Upgrade [geocities.com] website. But be aware that there is a lot of difference between the 12" and 14" versions, so screws are not always on the same location as shown on the pics!

  • Here are some more links to free disassembly instructions for laptops and notebooks [tuxmobil.org] (also links to service manuals), dissectioning HOWTOs for PDAs and handheld PCs [tuxmobil.org] (including information and pictures of JTAG ports), take apart notes for mobile (cell) phones [tuxmobil.org] and dismantling guides for mobile MP3 music players [tuxmobil.org].
    -- Keep your mobile running ;-)
  • by FesterDaFelcher ( 651853 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @10:52AM (#9106774)
    adzoox: How can you judge what is ethical and what is not?

    If you have to ask that, then you obviously have never taken any classes on ethics, or really thought about it. It would really do your business (and your customers) a service. Here is a link to reading up on ethics. Creating a Code of Ethics for Your Organization [ethicsweb.ca]

  • by smcv ( 529383 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @11:06AM (#9106912) Homepage
    I glanced through the one for the DVI Powerbook G4 before the database ran out of filehandles and died; their photos for access to the underside of the Powerbook show the it with the keyboard/other components removed and the screen closed over the top, which I'm not convinced is a good idea (if something falls through the gap where the keyboard should go and onto the screen, it'll get scratched).

    The Apple manual for the same model suggests putting the keyboard/wrist rest area of the laptop flat on a desk (with a towel or similar underneath), with the screen open and extended off the desk into your lap; that strikes me as less likely to get the screen damaged.
  • Comment removed (Score:3, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @12:14PM (#9107606)
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  • I've had a customer bring in his iMac G4 for repairs, and when we opened it we immediately noticed that the board screws (which require the calibrated torx driver to screw back in) were overtightened. This had forced the onboard video connector into the fixed video cable connector and consequently damaged it.

    So we called Apple, and notified them. they immediately canceled the warranty on the computer's serial number, and we refused to do the repairs.

    This doesn't happen very often, but it's happened two or three times in the 5 years I've been working here as an Apple Tech.
  • by danaris ( 525051 ) <danaris@NosPaM.mac.com> on Monday May 10, 2004 @02:18PM (#9108900) Homepage

    Unfortunately, they won't fix my 8-month-old TiBook with AppleCare and broken hinges.

    The problem is, of course, that it wasn't a "defect" that caused them to break. It was...well, I don't know what it was. I jump up, 'cause I hear a bunch of stuff fall down in the next room, I try to put my computer down on the little table...and my aim is a fraction of an inch off, so it hits on its corner, rather than landing on its base. The screen bends backwards.

    It's still a perfectly usable computer, it just needs its screen propped up on something. And to fix it would cost nearly $700.

    I'm considering giving it to my fiancee in a few months when we get married, and getting myself a newer AlBook. And being a little more careful with it this time. :-/

    So don't forget, AppleCare only covers things that break by themselves. I know, it's the standard way to do warranties, but it's still really annoying.

    Dan Aris

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 10, 2004 @02:44PM (#9109152)
    Uhh, you do know about the free repair program [apple.com], right? Ours had exactly the same issues, out of warranty, and we got it fixed for free. They also fixed a hinge problem that had developed after the warranty ran out. Not sure what there is to complain about.
  • by General Sherman ( 614373 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @03:00PM (#9109329) Journal
    What you might be looking for is something like SideTrack [ragingmenace.com], which allows you to use the trackpad tap as a ctrl+click, or many other things. It also lets you use the side of the trackpad as a scroll wheel for both horizontal and vertical.
  • WATCH OUT! (Score:2, Informative)

    by Power Everywhere ( 778645 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @04:27PM (#9110321) Homepage
    This voids your warranty!
  • Re:Warranty? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Macgrrl ( 762836 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @06:17PM (#9111312)

    Umm... I suspect that if an item is sold as a "sealed unit" item that you would find that warranty is voided if you open the case. It is not uncommon for certain items to be designated CRU (customer replaceable units) - for example in your laser printer, the toner cartridge is a CRU but the fuser assembly probably isn't. Pulling out the fuser and taking it to HP and saying you want it fixed under warranty is probably not going to get you very far.

    Laptops are designed to very fine tolerances, even experienced computer technicians can have difficulty working with them. I used to be a laptop specialist in a Apple Gold Service Centre in Melbourne (Australia), and would frequently see units come in the had casing damage from being forced, or units that had been reassembled incorrectly. There is a world of difference between working on a desktop unti and a laptop. Desktop computers are designed to be pulled apart and upgraded by the end user, laptops typically aren't, and in some rare cases require special tools to open them or reseal them.

    I would check you local statutory regulations regarding "sealed unit" items and warranty before you start pulling it apart and expecting to have warranty coverage.

  • My two cents (Score:5, Informative)

    by Equuleus42 ( 723 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @08:43PM (#9112511) Homepage
    I recently had a hard drive fail on my Powerbook G4 550 (a 2.5 year old machine), and I found the PDF step-by-step guides on Apple's support pages to be more than adequate for the drive replacement. The guides on PB Fixit's site appear to be less detailed than Apple's guides, but then again, I don't think Apple documents how to remove the logic board. :^)

    It was interesting to note how many people attributed my laptop's hard drive failure to the fact that it was a Mac. The Powerbook used an IBM Travelstar (or should that be IBM Travesty?) hard drive, which is also very common in PC laptops (as are Toshiba drives). These people just didn't realize that I was toting it back and forth to school every day, and waking it from sleep a LOT daily. Some days I would tote it on the back of my motorcycle, sitting in my backpack without a case of its own (admittedly not a smart thing to do). One day I accidentally dropped it three feet onto hard ground (thankfully while it was off). I can attest that any machine would die given what I put it through. Thankfully, it was just the hard drive, and it was easy to swap out. Otherwise, it's still chugging along, like a double decker bus packed into a sports car body.
  • Re:Warranty? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 11, 2004 @09:43AM (#9115948)
    No. There is no seal.

    The only way a tech can tell if someone has been inside is if you screw something up.

    But, there are some things inside Apple portables that are one-use items, and have to be replaced after you've opened them.

    The heat sink pads, for example, are frequently a single-use thermal pad, and if you use grease to replace it, somebody's going to know that it's been opened and repaired incorrectly.

    Also, many components are taped - it's not a seal, as such, but if you don't put new tape on, it'll be obvious that it has been removed and replaced. I suppose you could be extremely careful removing and replacing the tape, if you wanted to. But, unless something else is physically damaged (or you're an ass) most techs don't care. And you can always say it's been previously repaired by a certified tech, since unless parts have been replaced, Apple doesn't have records of repairs done at dealers - and they don't always even replace the tape at their own shops - if it's still sticky, it gets reused.

    (posting anonymously because I am an Apple Certified Portable Technician)

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