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Steve Jobs and the State of Legal Music Downloads 964

An anonymous reader writes "Rolling Stone has published an interview with Steve Jobs about the current state of the music industry. He is a smart man, that guy. 'When we first went to talk to these record companies -- about eighteen months ago -- we said, "None of this technology that you're talking about's gonna work. We have Ph.D.s here who know the stuff cold, and we don't believe it's possible to protect digital content."'"
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Steve Jobs and the State of Legal Music Downloads

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  • by Cajun Hell ( 725246 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:19PM (#7669696) Homepage Journal
    Shorts just keep getting longer every year. I'm wearing shorts right now, and didn't even know it.
  • by neelm ( 691182 ) <michael.neel@gmail.com> on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:21PM (#7669722) Homepage
    We called those high waters, and they were *not* cool...
  • DRM (Score:4, Funny)

    by thrillbert ( 146343 ) * on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:22PM (#7669730) Homepage
    Steve Jobs to the RIAA: "We asked 10,000 monkeys, and they don't seem to think that protecting diginal music is possible. However, they gave us this encyclopedia to give to you!"

    Yes ladies and gentlement, Steve Jobs does know how to get the answers to the questions that matter the most.

    ---
    The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice versa.
  • by Pastor Emerick ( 730917 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:28PM (#7669793) Journal
    Apple Computer is the maker of the popular Macintosh line of computers. The real operating system hiding under the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (MacOS X) is called... Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don't advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an "Open Source" license, which is just another name for Communism. They try to hide all of this under a facade of shiny, "lickable" buttons, but the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism.

    But is this really such a shock? Lets look for a moment at Apple Computers. Founded by long haired hippies, this company has consistently supported 60's counter-cultural "values". But there are even darker undertones to this company than most are aware of. Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness.

    This company is well known for its cult-like following. It isn't much of a stretch to say that it is a cult. Consider co-founder and leader Steve Jobs' constant exhortation through advertising (i.e. mind control) that its followers should "think different". We have to ask ourselves: "think different than whom or what?" The disturbing answer is that they want us to think different than our Christian upbringing, to reject all the values that we have been taught and to heed not the message of the Lord Jesus Christ!

    Given the now obvious anti-Christian and cultish nature of Apple Computers, is it any wonder that they have decided to base their newest operating system on Darwinism? This just reaffirms the position that Darwinism is an inherently anti-Christian philosophy spread through propaganda and subliminal trickery, not a science as its brainwashed followers would have us believe.
  • by morcheeba ( 260908 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:33PM (#7669851) Journal
    you can still see his legs, so that makes it shorts.

    Incidently, you can convert any pair of shorts into slacks by wearing suitably long socks.
  • by KoolDude ( 614134 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:41PM (#7669930)

    Of course, he is wearing G5 Shorts, arguably the longest shorts on the planet.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:41PM (#7669937)
    Get a real job, maybe then you can afford a better operating system. LOL next people will be calling for iTunes on DOS! Lol! Tell you what, just dump your girlfriend for a month, no doubt you'll have more than enough money for not only XP, but an entire new PC!
  • Apple's IP (Score:4, Funny)

    by BassAkwards ( 670247 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:43PM (#7669974)
    I mean, Apple has a lot of intellectual property, and we really get upset when people steal our software, too.

    Yeah, you hear that MS? Don't go copying any of Panther's UI or else we'll bring Scully back and settle with you for an undisclosed sum.

  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:45PM (#7670000) Homepage
    • I think you could make available the Second Coming in a subscription model, and it might not be successful. - Jobs

    Microsoft has been reasonably successful in forcing a subscription model on their customers, in the form of "Software Assurance". So has the cable TV industry. If you have a monopoly, you can do it.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @01:45PM (#7670001)
    I think your suffering from Ph.D. envy.
  • by KoolDude ( 614134 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:05PM (#7670248)

    But just for moderators to mod me up Funny like the parent post.
  • by RealProgrammer ( 723725 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:07PM (#7670269) Homepage Journal
    -- You can have a sample of my DNA when you take it from my cold, dead body. --

    Bug: Place your projectile weapon on the ground.

    Edgar: You can have my gun ...[chsnick]... when you pry it from my cold, dead, fingers.

    Bug: Your proposal is acceptable.

    Edgar: Aaaaaagggghhh! [dies]

    - Men In Black

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:07PM (#7670280)
    I dont think that counts - he's gay. Them homos have a natural sense of fashion.
  • by douglips ( 513461 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:10PM (#7670322) Homepage Journal
    If there is an inside to the house, there is always a way to get in there.


    My house is a Klein bottle. I have to sleep in my car.
  • by fractaloon ( 454371 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:17PM (#7670420) Homepage
    I call them mediums.
  • by edalytical ( 671270 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:22PM (#7670510)
    Of course, he is wearing G5 Shorts, arguably the longest [personal] shorts on the planet.
  • by Tomy ( 34647 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:34PM (#7670662)
    Oh, come on moderators...

    If I had mod points, I'd mod this parent Funny.
  • by bigberk ( 547360 ) <bigberk@users.pc9.org> on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:45PM (#7670781)
    We have Ph.D.s here who know the stuff cold, and we don't believe it's possible to protect digital content.

    I love how it takes a team of top academics to rediscover one of the primary design objectives of a digital computer: To make perfect copies of bits

  • Re:DRM (Score:4, Funny)

    by poot_rootbeer ( 188613 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @02:57PM (#7670932)
    Steve Jobs to the RIAA: "We asked 10,000 monkeys, and they don't seem to think that protecting diginal music is possible."

    Shouldn't we all be complaining about how Apple is sending all the jobs overseas to monkeys in Russia and India instead of keeping American monkeys employed?
  • by thoughtcrime ( 524620 ) <<moc.bmob-krof> <ta> <ezos>> on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @03:00PM (#7670978) Homepage
    I prefer my copy of "Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are DEVO!" with Mark Mothersbaugh's head on one side. That's kind of an experience in itself, listening to "Jocko Homo" and watching a DEVO's head go round and round...
  • Re:The Copy (Score:3, Funny)

    by lambadomy ( 160559 ) <lambadomy AT diediedie DOT com> on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @03:17PM (#7671211)
    I totally agree...but I have a ton of CDs, and I'd say 70% of them have almost nothing in terms of an insert booklet - lots just have a single sheet with the cover art on one side and a track listing on the other, perhaps with a credits list.

    Cover art alone isn't going to make me want to but a CD I don't think. CDs are just too small in their current casing. I'd probably have thrown away all of my CD cases by now if it wasn't for my packrat nature - as it is they're all in a box, with the CDs and booklets set in folders.
  • by ShavenYak ( 252902 ) <bsmith3 AT charter DOT net> on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @03:53PM (#7671634) Homepage
    They didn't have Messiaen, Slint, Merzbow, Captain Beefheart, Xenakis, Steve Reich, Schoenberg, Stravinksy, or, wait for it, John Cage! No fucking John Cage!

    Unit 706122, please report for entertainment reprogramming. Your circuits have become damaged, and are interfering with your ability to integrate into society. Never fear, you will be listening to Brittney and watching Friends again in no time.
  • Re:The Copy (Score:3, Funny)

    by uradu ( 10768 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @04:44PM (#7672262)
    > hen I buy merchandise from the band, it's like I'm saying,
    > "Hey, I like your band. Keep making good music.

    Yeah, except I mostly like 70s bands that aren't anymore. I sure hope my buying Genesis' early stuff doesn't encourage them to get back together and churn out more of their later crap.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @07:16PM (#7674369)
    If copyright violation is all it takes to fit into your definition of a thief, then you are free to define things to make the people who disagree with you seem as bad as you want. I disagree with you, however. So therefore having the same freedom with words you have, I've decided that makes you a child molester, you pervert.
  • by Axiom_1 ( 564687 ) on Tuesday December 09, 2003 @11:00PM (#7676461)
    If there is an inside to the house, there is always a way to get in there.

    Not if the person who built the house was too drunk and/or stupid to remember to add a door.

    My parents hired someone to build a cottage on some land they bought. It seemed smaller inside than it did outside. Then we realized that there was a room with no windows or door.

    The world can be a strange place sometimes.

And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing what the dictionary says it means, you go to jail. No exceptions. -- David Jones

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