New 20" iMac and Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac G5 467
joekra writes "Today, Apple released a new 20" iMac and a Dual 1.8GHz PowerMac G5. Both were accurately rumored at the last minute by the usual suspects. In fact, the Dual 1.8GHz G5 configuration was rumored back in July to shift demand away from the popular 2.0GHz PowerPC G5s." I'm holding out for a couple rounds of price drops, but I think a G5 is definitely in my future.
Re:Big screen! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:G5 mania (Score:1, Informative)
Try Versiontracker (Score:3, Informative)
Since you are apparently new to Macs, are you familiar with Versiontracker [versiontracker.com]. Its a good place to find programs for the Mac, what the latest version is, and what other people think of them.
Re:Good to see apple back (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Good to see apple back (Score:3, Informative)
Pro Tools Optimized for G5 and Panther (Score:2, Informative)
Apple now offers its entire suite of professional applications optimized to leverage the performance advantages of the Power Mac G5. Mac-based hardware and software from Apple and our partners form the backbone of professional workflows at every level of video and audio production, so the industry moves with us. Keep up. Whatever your choice in tools and formats, there's room for them and for you on the Apple platform for professional digital production.
Apple - Software - Pro [apple.com]
But if you found a way... (Score:5, Informative)
But if you could find a way to hack it, you're essentially getting an awfully cool monitor stand plus a Superdrive equipped G4 for $900. That's *much* easier to stomach.
Take apart at xlr8yourmac.com (look at "rainbow colored" wires)
Service manual [earthlink.net]
There was also a great Japanese site that showed the thing taken apart until the wires were dangling, but I always have the dangest time Googling in Japanese.
Re:Learn marketing, people. (Score:3, Informative)
Sure, some people will buy the iMac and use it for ten years, quite happily. For these people, this is a good option. However, it is reasonable to expect a high-quality monitor to outlast the usefulness of even a Mac.
Re:Buying a Mac (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.pangeasoft.net/index2.html
They make some great kid-friendly games. However, advise getting a new GameCube for $80-$100 bucks. Free up your computer with a game console and you won't have fight over who gets to use the pretty Mac.
Re:Buying a Mac (Score:1, Informative)
And Bochs sux
Re:Big screen! (Score:5, Informative)
OSHA [osha.gov] says so. Even without OSHA, it's far more comfortable to sit up straight in a nice chair with my head tilted slightly down. Having it tilted slightly up hurts my shoulders after a few hours (fighting against gravity and all). When you read a book for hours on end, do you hold it up above eye level or down in your lap?
Re:Big screen! (Score:3, Informative)
If you're staring upwards at your screen, then your eyes are doing more work or your neck is, or a combination of both. Either way, the posture you'll adopt and the knock on effects it has on the rest of your anatomy is damaging to your long term health.
No, being hunched down over a monitor isn't good for you but, equally, having to arch your back and look upwards isn't good for you either.
Re:Only logical (Score:3, Informative)
Now if you compare two DUAL machines, the G5 is the clear winner. But dual G4 vs. single G5... no contest, G4 is cheaper/equal price and faster with dual-capable tasks, and multitasking in general.
How to keep LRT kid-safe (Score:3, Informative)
You can save your LRT screen from the kids by adhering a clear sheet of plexiglass using double-stick foam tape to the "frame." Well, that's what we did. It works great. Kids touch the plexiglass and you can just clean it off. The only disadvantage is that it renders the mic useless.
Re:Big screen! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not sure about the 20" iMac... (Score:2, Informative)
Just to emphasise this, the first Mac that could do this was the Mac II [apple-history.com] which was introduced in March 1987.
1987. That's 16 years ago folks.
Since then, any Mac that can physically hold more than 1 graphics card has had seamless multi-headed support. That's seamless in the sense of dragging a window so that half of it is on a 24-bit display, and half of it on a black and white display, and things just work. Seamless in the sense of "Holy crap, I've a single 1900x1300 pixel Photoshop window across 4 monitors".
Re:Only logical (Score:3, Informative)
That means you have one of them old powersupplies, those were recalled by Apple, I think you can still get them replaced for free (shipping ain't though).
I don't have the dual G4 anymore, I now have a single 1.8 GHz G5. I did replace the power supply of the G4 though, and while it was somewhat less noisier after that, the G5 is still a lot quieter.
JP
Re:Big screen! (Score:2, Informative)
because the iMac takes less desktop space than anything else out there.
because the iMac's monitor can swivel, so when I'm infront of my keyboards, I can see the screen just by glancing at it, ideal when you're performing a piece live.
because any messing around with can be burned onto a DVD.
all for a very low price.
$2499 for dual 1.8? (Score:1, Informative)
Same price, better machine.
Re:Big screen! (Score:3, Informative)
The end is very near indeed. Plan now while you still have control over your budget.
Oh, and color matching....real shops use actual samples, not 'on screen' permutations. That is why the 'better than' debate is quite bogus.
Re:Not sure about the 20" iMac... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But the arm is fabulous (Score:2, Informative)
Does your dual-CPU G5 sound like a hairdryer ??? (Score:2, Informative)
I will note that there are several errors in this article. Moshe writes" Under the hood, Panther introduced other important features like an update to FreeBSD 4.8 (OS X is based on FreeBSD, but the previous release used FreeBSD 3.2) ". Which is wrong on both counts. Panther (10.3) is synced with FreeBSD 5.0 [apple.com] and Jaguar (10.2) is synced with FreeBSD 4.4 (PDF) [apple.com]. Aside from minor typos "Upon reboot, staring MS Word for the first time takes 6 seconds" (BYTE editors please make note).
The one problem I had with this article was the description of the noise generated by the dual-CPU G5. Moshe wrote "The noise the dual G5 makes is comparable to a hair dryer, and it can be heard from any room of my house". I had a 1.8 GHz G5 delivered to my office by our university's Apple representative for a few days to evaluate the machine. One of the features I was amazed by was how quiet the G5 was. In order to hear the G5 operate in my office, I had to turn off the following: SGI O2, the dual-CPU PIII 1GHz SGI 320, the G4 PowerMac + all the monitors including the 21" Intergraph behemoth monitor. The central air-conditioning into my office was still louder than my G5! Then I had to move my ear closer to the G5 casing to hear the fans operate with all other equipment turned off (only one of our professor's G4 Cube is quieter than the G5 loaner I got from Apple). Later that week I wrote to my Apple rep. "Those multiple fans are deathly quiet".
Here are some other dual-CPU G5 reviews on the G5:
Mac Addict review [macaddict.com] "GOOD NEWS: Fastest Mac ever. Exceptionally quiet. Easy, no-tools-required maintenance"
Twincities.com review [twincities.com] "Indeed, removing one of G5's slab-like anodized-aluminum sides revealed nine fans that pump air along a network of inner wind tunnels. Switching on the Power Mac, I expected it to make a terrible racket despite Apple's assurances to the contrary. But, sure enough, the machine proved amazingly quiet for "the world's fastest, most powerful personal computer.""
So, when Moshe describes his dual-CPU G5 to be loud as a hairdryer I'm a little skeptical. Giving Moshe the benefit of the doubt of having a faster ATI Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card, he might have received a G5 with defective thermal sensors or something. Has anyone out there experienced their dual-CPU G5 with a ATI 9800 sound like a hairdryer???