MacGimp Reviewed, Available For Easy Download 80
Kelly McNeill writes "Now that a native X Window system (X11) comes as standard equipment on OS X Panther, osViews' Kelly McNeill thought that now might be the right time to review the latest (stable) version of of the GNU Image Manipulation Program -- version 1.2.5. Gimp reviews in the past have typically either been written from a non-technical perspective -- authored by graphic artists or by software developers -- having little understanding of the needs of graphic designers. Kelly McNeill is a self-proclaimed tech geek and a working graphic artist, which makes the review all the more interesting." And Durin_Deathless writes "A new open source company, Archei LLC , is sponsoring free downloads of MacGIMP. You can download here(1)(officially) or here(2) (no personal info needed). You could also use Fink to get GIMP, but if GIMP is all want, here you go."
no registration link is broken... (Score:2, Informative)
Just what the troll doctor order... (Score:2, Funny)
Common Clipboard Comment (Score:4, Insightful)
>After thinking about it however, I realized that these
>complaints were mis-directed. Clipboard data is not an
>application-specific function. Therefore, the problem is
>not something specific to The Gimp, but rather to X11.
That it isn't GIMP's problem doesn't keep it from being, well, a problem with GIMP.
They really like ripping off users ... (Score:1)
Re:Buggy on my Laptop (Score:2, Insightful)
download links (Score:3, Informative)
MacGimp [archei.com]
WinGimp [archei.com]
a month too late! (Score:1)
BR Oh, and all this without Fink... well, the day I install Panther I will give this MacGIMP a try, or install Fink and stop wasting time.
Re:a month too late! (Score:1)
I've done it on Jaguar and Panther.
-Spyky
Re:a month too late! (Score:2, Informative)
Fink is definitely the way to go... And you don't have to go through all this macgimp.org crap.
If you have problems with command line crap, try out Fink Commander [sourceforge.net] (which is a gui for fink). It makes installing stuff through fink even easier (you select what you want from a table and click install).
ps: the link in my sig is a bunch of pictures that I made with Gimp for Fark contests...
Buying GPL Software (Score:1, Redundant)
All it would take would be one person to buy it, get the source as macgimp has it (i.e. patched for comp. on Mac OS X), build it themselves then stick it on gimp.org or planetmirror.com or similar... in fact, the community could pool together say 50 people at $1 each, and we have a free (as in speech) version of macgimp
That make any sense?
Re:Buying GPL Software (Score:2)
Re:Buying GPL Software (Score:2)
Re:Buying GPL Software (Score:1)
Hrmm (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Well... (Score:4, Insightful)
2. GTK doesn't look like anything. You have issues with the default theme. Go get a nice Aqua theme and enjoy your gooey colors.
3. You're right, file management in GTK apps does suck. GTK2 (which GIMP 1.3 uses) will be fixing this real soon now(tm).
Re:Well... (Score:1)
'Steve Jobs said the X Window System is brain-damaged and will disappear in two years. He got it half-right.'
-- Dennis Ritchie
Re:Well... (Score:2)
But like I said, find a nice Aqua GTK theme, and boom: GIMP looks native.
Saved by X11 (Score:2, Insightful)
X11 may not be beautiful, but face it, developers of specialized software rooted in legacy code aren't going to turn into sleek, fashionable Cocoa-only coders for the love of Steve. Similarly, the Gimp folks aren't going to neglect their Linux and Windows audience to concentrate on Objective C.
App
Re:Saved by X11 (Score:1)
May I quote you on that? I've said similar things myself, but it sounds pretentious to quote yourself.
Quote me, please (Score:1)
Re:Cocoa or forget it (Score:1)
Re:Cocoa or forget it (Score:1)
OmniOutliner
OmniWeb
Camino
Creat e
PStill
Formac TiVeRon
Keynote
Quicktime Broadcaster
Giants: Citizen Kabuto
Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix
Freedom Force
Oni
Quake III Arena
Heavy Metal FAKK2
Tons of apps included in Mac OS X:
Safari
Mail
iPhoto
iMovie
iCal
iChat
Add ressBook
many more
Major apps that used to have Cocoa/NeXTstep/OPENSTEP ports:
Mathematica
Adobe Illustrator
Macromedia Freehand
SAS
WordPerfect
Improv
Major 3rd party developers have not embraced Cocoa as readily mainly because you can't target Mac OS
Re:Cocoa or forget it (Score:1, Funny)
GIMP on Win32 (Score:1)
It's the latest release too (1.2.5) which seems uncommon in Win ports of *nix software.
Re:GIMP on Win32 (Score:1)
The trend continues...
Launcher my arse (Score:3, Informative)
If you want to launch gimp like a regular program follow these simple steps after having it installed were you can at the very least run it from a terminal command line.
#1 go to find (command f) and search for gimp. Locate the file named gimp with a parent of bin. it should reside in
#2 double click the application gimp. Select choose application. Find your X11 application and click ok. It will then tell you not enough information is available and ask if you would like to update the program click update.
#3 after gimp launches close out of it and shut X11 down.
#4 get info on gimp again and change the owner back to system. Close the get info box.
#5 make an alias to gimp by selecting the icon and pressing command+option while dragging the alias to its new home.
You can now close out of all the windows your new alias is now a launcher for gimp. YMMV on this as I just decided to try it out being a Mac user for so long I just figured this was the way it should be done and low and behold it worked without a hitch. System was 10.3 with the latest updates for both X11 and the security updates from apple. In addition you can add it to the dock but because it is a file not an application you have to place it to the side of the solid black line the trash can is on.
MacGIMP Launcher script (Score:2)
Re:MacGIMP Launcher script (Score:2)
Re:Launcher my arse (Score:2)
I wonder if you also get a whole list of errors (in xterm) related to Gimp plugins and what looks like missing Perl modules when you start up Gimp?
I tried to solve it by installing the 'Gimp' Perl module with CPAN but the install failed.
JP
Re:Launcher my arse (Score:3, Informative)
1. Don't use Find, but open:
% open
2. Use GetInfo as described to change ownership to current user
3. Select "Open With" info tab, "Choose Other", find X11, click "Always Open With This" button
4. Double click gimp to ensure it works (you'll have to go through Gimp setup).
5. Quit Gimp and X11
6. Change ownership back to system.
7. Drag gimp icon into dock - no need to make an alias
8. if you want to be able to open gimp from the s
Re:Launcher my arse (Score:2)
activate
end tell
do shell script "export DISPLAY=:0 && source
Save as an Application. You can even add a cool GIMP icon.
Re:Launcher my arse (Score:1)
This is a joke, right?
Re:Launcher my arse (Score:2)
Re:One reason why Gimp is important. (Score:5, Insightful)
Photoshop is a lot like Autocad - once you get used to it functioning a certain way and have customized it, there's no need to upgrade just because Adobe says so. An upgrade may add some new features, but if you've learned quick workarounds, why bother?
The same with Gimp - I'm familiar with Photoshop, I know how to get the things done I need to do - why bother switching programs? The extra frustration that comes with learning a new way of doing the same old things doesn't justify the change.
Re:One reason why Gimp is important. (Score:2)
Still, I think I may have to try out the GIMP after I upgrade to Panther.
Re:One reason why Gimp is important. (Score:1)
YMMV, of course.
Re:One reason why Gimp is important. (Score:2)
TWO reasons why the GIMP is so important (Score:2)
Photoshop is a lot like Autocad - once you get used to it functioning a certain way and have customized it, there's no need to upgrade just because Adobe says so. An upgrade may add some new features, but if you've learned quick workarounds, why bother?
That's a good reason WHY we need the GIMP. If you need a set of features, and you have them, why should you have to get on the Adobe upgrade train?
Another reason for open source solutions: Just look at what Adobe is doing with Illustrator; Ill. 9 will balk
Re:TWO reasons why the GIMP is so important (Score:2)
The GIMP is great for people who don't have any experience with Photoshop.
Personally, I find the interface somewhat clunky and at least in Windows - it doesn't mesh well with the existing
Re:TWO reasons why the GIMP is so important (Score:2)
You missed the point of the argument - a lot of professional Photoshop users aren't on the Adobe upgrade train because they what they're currently using does what they need it to.
I stated my point badly, then. What I was trying to point out is that Adobe is starting to 'pull' users along (e.g., disabled forward compatibility in Illustrator.) OSS won't do that. I deal with an awkward interface if it means I can be sure that GIMP 2 will be able to open GIMP 3 TIFFs.
I agree that the GIMP isn't ready for pri
GINP (Score:2, Funny)
Great Program! (Score:2)
When was the last time any of the teenage trolls here actually had to shell out money for Photoshop and not just download it from a warez site?
Re:Great Program! (Score:2)
This can't be true (Score:2, Insightful)
Did anyone try to save an image as jpeg? The quality is arghhh.
I really prefer to reboot into Windows or use my Mac with Photoshop.
I'm really doing a lot with open source software. Some programs are great (jedit). But I fear the arrival of the day when such great companies like BareBones, Adobe or Metrowerks have to close their gates (hehe) and we all remain only with this free stuff.
The user friendliness if 98% of these things is very bad. Good
Re:This can't be true (Score:1)
I Agree with that statement 100%. I have never had a problem with GIMP's image quality though. The default isn't great quality but you can change that. I'm sure you are awaer of that though. I think the gimp is one of if not the best and most complete opensource alternative to expensive profissional software.
Re:This can't be true (Score:1)
Sure, lots of them
The quality is arghhh.
That's precise. Can you link to some comparison images, complete with specifying what settings you used to save each image?
Here's an honest question: Isn't a JPEG a JPEG a JPEG? Isn't JPEG a standard format, or are there lots of different ways to sample and compress an image and still wind up with a JPEG file that can be opened by any other JPEG-capable app?
Good only for people, who have fun finding out how things work. NO
My only beef with Gimp on X11 (Score:1)
I installed Gimp using fink and fink commander (could not have been any easier). I run it on my Jaguar iMac using the latest pre-Panther beta of X11.
My only beef with it (and its really an X11 thing) is that when you switch from one pallette to another (which are different X11 windows) you have to click once to activate the window and then click again to select your tool (or whatever). It does not really work like a seamless application, even though it is.
Warning: Biohazard! (Score:2, Funny)
The Gimp is wonderful, but... (Score:1)
Despite It's downfalls, I have to agree that a lot of hard work has gone in to the gimp, and it is an excellet tool. I just prefer a
X11 on Jag? (Score:2)
Two minor details (Score:2)
Photo editing without color matching? I'll stick to my $30 Photoshop Elements, thanks.
Re:Two minor details (Score:2)
Yes it does, it's on the Panther install CDs. It is not installed by default, but it is included, and you can select during the installation process. X11 was not included with Jaguar; you had to download it.
Re:Two minor details (Score:2)