Low-power FM Transmitters Banned in UK 562
Acey writes "The BBC News is reporting that the Griffin iTrip falls foul of the UK Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 (PDF). In short, the iTrip is an unlicensed FM transmitter and that's not allowed. The UK distributor, A M Micro, have pulled the iTrip. More ominously they warn that "Use of the iTrip in the UK therefore constitutes an offence and can lead to prosecution of the User". Guess that makes me an outlaw, because you'll have to pry my iTrip from my cold, dead hands."
1949 (Score:2, Insightful)
doubt it (Score:3, Insightful)
No, it would just take a uniformed constable. Let's not overestimate ourselves here.
Time to update the law... (Score:4, Insightful)
Specifically, they ought to allow unlicensed transmitters below a certain output power (anyone know what the iTrip's broadcast power is?).
I mean, the spectrum licensees have a vested and understable interest in keeping their airwaves free of interference, but I don't think low-power transmissions like these had been envisioned when the law was codefied (receivers were a wee bit less sensitive and precise in 1949, methinks).
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Re:Government-controlled media (Score:5, Insightful)
Acceptable unlawful behavior? Give me a break (Score:2, Insightful)
"Use of the iTrip in the UK therefore constitutes an offence and can lead to prosecution of the User". Guess that makes me an outlaw, because you'll have to pry my iTrip from my cold, dead hands."
This view seems to becoming more prevalent. An illegal action or device is banned or otherwise action taken against, and people just ignore it because it doesnt suit them. This device is illegal, and it hasnt even just been made illegal, its been illegal for a good number of decades, so under what premise do you think you should be allowed to continue using it? I bet you will be crying foul if you get caught!
Yes this device is low powered, but that doesnt matter. Under the aformentioned act, it is illegal, and if you want to use one, then please speak to your local MP! Do not start ignoring laws that inconvienince you, as this is where anarchy starts to creep in.
I can hear the cries for compensation for these now useless devices already, either from the UK government or the company that sold them. I dont think you should get a refund or compensation from either source, as they are covered under an already existing law, and you should have checked the legality of these items before you purchased.
Your best course of action now, to recover your costs? Ebay the suckers i think.
Re:nutty limeys (Score:3, Insightful)
(For those of you who were too young / don't remember, Mr. Microphone was a kids toy which attached a cheap mic to a low power radio transmitter, so you could talk and pick it up through your car radio.)
But to answer your question - yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be illegal. Although I don't remember if it used an FM or an AM signal.
No news here (Score:5, Insightful)
The distributors of the iTrip, having taken legal advice, have decided that use of the iTrip probably constitutes a breach of an old law about FM broadcasting and have therefore chosen not to distribute it here.
Nothing has actually changed and British police are not about to start hunting down people with suspicious bulges on the top of their iPods.
Paranoid nonsense (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Pirate Radio (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Your gross ignorance (Score:1, Insightful)
burn the books! (Score:1, Insightful)
After you kill your TV, you can burn all your books, toss your radio in the river, and shred your magazines.
The joys of censorship. Can't have those bad ideas enter, ever!
Why is this news? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Acceptable unlawful behavior? Give me a break (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Er - ah - hm (Score:5, Insightful)
the ultimate solution is to have a device that broadcasts a local DAB (digital radio) signal. That will eliminate most interference issues (as well as radio hiss) and allow you to view track info on your digital radio. DAB is starting to take off in a big way in the UK now so somesuch gadget is probably not that far down the line.
Like hearding sheep over London Bridge (Score:4, Insightful)
No, nobody is going to bother to enforce the law. It it doesn't cause a problem who cares? It is a complete non-story.
Like the ability of Freemen of London to heard sheep (or not) over London Bridge lots of laws lie around long after the environment they related to has changed out of all recognition.
Would it effect emergency services? (Score:3, Insightful)
I think the range of this thing is - what - 10 to 30 feet?
Excuse my ignorance - information please. Would the iTrip be broadcasting on frequencies that might be used by emergency services (fire, ambulance, police..)? This is usually one of the 'safety' reasons for being unhappy about illegal broadcasting that UK gov. gives when having a go at pirate radio stations.
What is the distance these things can broadcast to? In the UK, 30 feet can quite easily mean from your room right into the middle of the town high street (lots of UK towns still follow mediaeval street plans). So I guess if they *do* broadcast on channels the govt. wants to use, and they *do* broadcast 30 feet, the govt *will* be upset. Don't want dead spots down the street where old Bill can't pick up base station...
Re:Acceptable unlawful behavior? Give me a break (Score:3, Insightful)
And you do that properly - using an illegal transmitter and hoping you don't get caught is *not* legitimate civil disobedience. It's called criminal action.
It could be civil disobedience if you
(a) lobbied for a change in the law
(b) told the newspapers you were deliberately breaking the law
(c) did so in public. Fully prepared to go to jail, along with a few dozen other people.
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:3, Insightful)
I can't believe I'm reading this crap!
What's so stupid about licensing the use of your EM spectrum and then making sure that those who've PAID FOR bandwidth can actually use it without fear of interference from unlicensed transmissions? There are portions of the spectrum specifically allocated to unlicensed transmitters, use those if you want but stop fucking up all the other thousands of services that depend on spectrum management to do business.
This is good spectrum management (Score:1, Insightful)
Besides, this is a stupid device. Using the FM broadcast band for short-range transmission is obsolete technology. In the 1950s, it might have been tolerable. Today, there are too many RF devices around. A product like this should be transmitting in an ISM band using spread-spectrum, like Bluetooth or WiFi. That's legal in the UK. More modern systems handle interference much better.
In the early days of computing, before the FCC cracked down on unwanted emissions from computers, there were major electronic incompatibility problems. If you brought a Milton Bradley Big Trak within a few feet of a TRS-80, both would crash. The FCC clamped down hard on junk RF from computers, which was a big help in making computers a mass-market product.
Never been legal in UK and most Europe (Score:2, Insightful)
In practise you probably can bring an iTrip woth you there, or sell it to someone living in Europe, and he/she/you are not likely to get to trouble with it. But I can't recall the iTrip-type electronics EVER have been allowed there. So, why did it make to the news only now?
1949 (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Er - ah - hm (Score:3, Insightful)
I'd guess that Britain is only inline with the rest of the European legislation rather than the issue being "purely" British...
Re:YES WE CALL THIS CABLE IN USA (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Interface options (Score:2, Insightful)