Low-power FM Transmitters Banned in UK 562
Acey writes "The BBC News is reporting that the Griffin iTrip falls foul of the UK Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 (PDF). In short, the iTrip is an unlicensed FM transmitter and that's not allowed. The UK distributor, A M Micro, have pulled the iTrip. More ominously they warn that "Use of the iTrip in the UK therefore constitutes an offence and can lead to prosecution of the User". Guess that makes me an outlaw, because you'll have to pry my iTrip from my cold, dead hands."
What is it? (Score:3, Informative)
From the page: You are looking at the coolest iPod accessory in the world. The iTrip FM transmitter for the iPod can play your music through any FM radio in your car, at a party, wherever the mood strikes you - and you have a radio.
Re:Interface options (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:regulation of the airwaves (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Well if that is the case (Score:2, Informative)
UK is the only coutry limits use of the FM band. (Score:2, Informative)
I remember building FM/AM transmitters as teen, cool to be my own DJ...America still home of the free!!!
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:5, Informative)
They say the range is about 5M (therefore just for personal use) but it is well over 100 metres. So I'm waiting to get busted when I broadcast web radio stations around my house (and over a small portion of town).
Don
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Re:Interface options (Score:3, Informative)
XtremeMac's iPod Cassette Adapter [xtrememac.com]
Though any cassette adapter will work (there are many manufacturers).
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:It's better when government controls the media. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Interface options (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:2, Informative)
Basically it's illegal to sell infringing equipment to people who don't have the proper licences, and they would go after defiant suppliers.
The authorities could go after an end user, but enforcement of that kind of thing tends to be complaint-led over here; trouble would only ensue if someone managed to cause enough interference in their locality to piss off enough of their neighbours into making proper complaints. Realistically it's not going to happen.
Re:not that useful (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Government-controlled media (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:2, Informative)
There are legal frequencies... (Score:3, Informative)
Come to think of it, I don't think garage door openers in the states are in the FM band either.
The US is more the exception than the rule; many countries ban transmission in the FM band - it's just the US has a get-out for very low power transmitters.
Re:Government-controlled media (Score:3, Informative)
The money raised from the TV License goes to several areas, including the running of BBC TV and Radio, subsidising public service broadcasts on other channels (Channel 4), and running TVL.
Re:Er - ah - hm (Score:2, Informative)
You mean (And it's "bureaucracy", meaning "government by a cabal of expensive office furniture" [reference.com]). HTH.
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:1, Informative)
Cheers numb nuts.
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:5, Informative)
In the end we had everything in order, and a large 802.11b installation will probably draw more attention than a fm transmitter speeding down the road, but they do watch.
--T
Re:Low powered FM (Score:3, Informative)
Legal info from the website (Score:2, Informative)
Section 1 of the WT Act 1949 forbids the installation or use of wireless telegraphy equipment (radio) in the UK mainland including Northern Ireland and territorial waters, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, unless:
More and more convenience devices now utilise radio in their operation. Car alarms, wireless door chimes and garage door openers are common examples. Unfortunately not all of these are manufactured in accordance with the relevant technical requirements. The use of non-compliant equipment, is an offence and can lead to interference to authorised users of radio.
It is an offence contrary to the RTTE Regulations to place on the market non-compliant apparatus.
The whole point is spectrum is regulated in the UK and unless the equipment is licensed, then its illegal to use it.
If this thing worked at an exempt frequency, it would be ok, but because it uses the FM Broadcast bands, its not approved for use.
I would also presume the importer wont sell them simply because they could be prosecuted and would have zero defence.
Re:Government does not collect money, the IRS does (Score:2, Informative)
You yanks just don't get it
The BBC is separate from government by issue of it's Royal Charter.
If you think they're government lapdogs, speak to Alistair Campbell.
Re:not that useful (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Would it effect emergency services? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Government-controlled media (Score:5, Informative)
As to whether that sucks...IMO what really sucks is having TV shows, movies, even sports games interrupted every 10 minutes for a 5 minutes commercial break. In return for a 190 annual fee, Brits get 2 free-to-air TV stations and 5 national radio stations with NO COMMERCIAL BREAKS. And we're not talking marginalised, underfunded US style public broadcasting - they're the most popular stations in the UK, with rights to most major sporting events, movies, music etc. So you can sit down and watch a 3 hour movie (with stereo sound) right the way through, just like in the cinema. Or a 5 set Wimbledon final, without missing any shots. Not to mention all those original BBC geek classics like Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Blackadder, Red Dwarf, Hitchikers Guide (originally a BBC radio show), Dr Who...Oh, and the BBC also has several (free) digital radio and TV channels as well.
Another bonus is that because of the competition with the ad-free BBC, commercial broadcasters in Britain restrict themselves to one commercial break every 15 minutes, so even on the 3 free-to-air commercial stations you can follow the plot of most shows without being constantly interrupted by life insurance salesman. Plus they have to compete with the BBC on breadth and quality, meaning that they can't get away with the endless repeats of Frasier and Seinfeld that seem to define primetime on most major US networks.
Now what I don't understand is this: the BBC can put out about 6 TV channels (including the digital ones) and dozens of radio stations (including local radio) for a charge of only 190 per year per household -- without needing any advertising income. This is far less than the cost of most cable or satellite TV subscriptions - and yet cable stations usually have as many commercials as free-to-air stations, and the programs rarely better BBC quality. What do they do with their money?
I guess it just goes to prove that with the right management and funding, publically owned services can outperform the private sector. Although actually I don't have a TV anymore...a DVD player hooked up to a computer monitor supplies the movies without me needing a TV license, radio and the net gives me the rest.
Re:Over cautious distributor? (Score:2, Informative)
For example, with a radio scanner, I can:
Listen to CB/Ham radio
Listen to commercial broadcast stations
Listen to TV audio channels
See - there are non-infringing uses for RECEIVERS, which both radio scanners and traffic speed detectors are, not TRANSMITTERS.
As a radio amateur, I can own transmitters for the ham bands - but if you don't hold a licence for them, these are illegal to own.
David
Re:Government-controlled media (Score:2, Informative)
Common mistake. You need a TV licence if you have equipment capable of receiving television signals and it is used for that purpose, eg. a detuned TV used for watching pre-recorded video cassetes or closed circuit televison would not require one. A televison monitor (not necessarily with a UHF tuner) connected to a satellite receiver pointing at a satellite which is not uplinked to from the UK and used for watching, say, high quality Swedish erotica would still require one.
Gareth
Re:Interface options (Score:4, Informative)
I ended up going with the third option for my wife's 2002 Nissan Altima, since it has no tape deck and I didn't want to mess with an FM modulator. It has a CD changer input in the back, but the place linked above doesn't have anything for the Altima. I found a guy who makes custom cables [virtualoutlook.net] for it, so I ordered that along with a switch to put the radio in aux mode. Installation was pretty easy and actually kind of a fun project, especially drilling the hole in the dash to install the switch. ;-)
So as you can see, there are plenty of options. Of course what would be the best is a little dock that provides power, line out, and steering wheel remote controls. Just slide the iPod in and off you go!
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:2, Informative)
They drive around in little vans with detectors looking for stray signals.
During my days on CB radio, plenty of people were busted for illegal broadcasting.
If you are going to use this, it will run for at least a couple of hours, or maybe longer with a mains adaptor. It would be a simple matter of triangulation to locate you.
Re:Government-controlled media (Score:2, Informative)
Re: 100 possible stations (Score:3, Informative)
Also since the FM band is divided up into individual possible stations every 0.5MHz, there's actually only 41 possible stations (the band is 87.5 - 108 MHz).
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:2, Informative)
These transmitters are so tiny that they're not going to win out over any kind of reciveable commercial transmission. So if you tune it to a dead spot, and then drive somewhere where a commercial transmitter is broadcasting, these transmitters won't be able to overcome the commercial transmission. You will be out of luck, not anyone else.
I've been using something similar for years with a CD player and now with my iPod. For you to ruin someone else's radio pleasure, they'd have to be so close to your car that what they hear on the radio is the least of anyone's worries.
Re:I understand a little bit, but sheesh. (Score:3, Informative)
Well, no. Not right now. The issue only really just arose because a distributor wanted to sell the iTrip in the UK, and has realised they can't (and posted a press release about it widely enough to hit the BBC, the Register and
Either way, with parliament just shut down for the summer, nothing's gonna happen until September.
Alternatively, the Radio Agency (the government body that regulates UK spectrum) could take matters into its own hands and modify the regulatory regime - but it'd need a pretty compelling argument to make it do so.
Re:This is good spectrum management (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How will they enforce? (Score:5, Informative)
I don't normally flame people on Slashdot, but IMO your knee-jerk pro-authority attitude is the root cause of all our problems in England. Having people with your sort of attitude around is a real drag. The kind of things you want don't make anyone safer, they make life harder and more dangerous for everyone.
legal in New Zealand (Score:4, Informative)
The top and bottom 1 MHz of the FM band is reserved for unlicensed transmission with an effective radiated power of less than 300 mW. So as long as you tune your iTrip to 88 - 89 MHz or 107 - 108 MHz you're fine.
I've been wondering about getting an iTrip once the version for the new model iPod is available (Apple changed the connectors on the top...), but my car's radio.casette has a line-in (marked "CD") on the front panel anyway, and that's better quality.