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Pods Unite 381

burgburgburg writes "Apple has released the QuickTime video of the new commercial they made in conjunction with Volkswagen. The connection between the two? Buy a New Beetle. Get a new iPod. Take a look at video. It's the 15 GB iPod and all the accessories needed to hook it up to the new Volkswagen." It uses a casette adapter, which is really lame. Of course, I use a casette adapter with my iPod, but I am not a German engineer.
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  • by hedley ( 8715 ) <hedley@pacbell.net> on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:25PM (#6484683) Homepage Journal

    Would it kill these guys to put a mini-jack on the dash (or somewhere) and an AUX setting on the stereo.

    Bueller? Anyone?

    Hedley
  • by vlad30 ( 44644 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:28PM (#6484708)
    So Is there a car with Firewire or USB connectivity from the manufacturer ?? If not how long before we see it ?

    BTW I think this will be better than those in car removable hard drive solutions from 2-3 years ago
  • A good thing... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by suso ( 153703 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:29PM (#6484722) Journal
    This is a good thing. Many companies are indirectly promoting mp3 music, etc.
  • German engineer? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by KamuSan ( 680564 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:33PM (#6484751) Journal
    AFAIK the beetle is designed in the US and since this is totally US-specific I guess no German engineers were involved whatsoever. I mean, if they were, then they propably wouldn't have use the casette-adaptor anyway. (Especially since noone uses cassettes in Europe anymore. Boo hiss, old, ancient!)
  • Integration (Score:5, Interesting)

    by morcheeba ( 260908 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:35PM (#6484767) Journal
    The holster is a bit hokey... would it kill apple/vw to design the ipod so that it can go inside a slot fairly deep such that only the lcd screen is showing? I'm thinking on top of the dash, kinda like a toaster. If necessary, the ipod should be able to rotate the image on its screen accordingly (for upside-down or sideways installations).

    I wonder if the car can control the ipod - i.e. fast forward, rewind, etc. The older-style remote protocol is documented here [maushammer.com] so that you can build an interface to anything you want. It includes nice pictures & working source code!
  • iTrip (Score:4, Interesting)

    by JojoLinkyBob ( 110971 ) <joeycato@gmail . c om> on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:35PM (#6484775) Homepage
    Anybody know when the iTrip [griffintechnology.com] FM Transmitter for the iPod is coming out?

    The website has been stating "shipping soon" for a very long time now. At any rate, this could be an easier connection than a tape cassette, except for the possible trade-off of sound quality.

  • They used to... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by morcheeba ( 260908 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:40PM (#6484806) Journal
    When CDs started becoming more popular, the tape-players had aux inputs meant for discman-type players. Then they switched to in-dash CD players and dropped the inputs... now they're being caught behind the MP3-player curve again and are trying to re-add the input. With a car lifespan so long, you'd think that car manufacturers should give up trying to predict what personal electronic trends will be 15 years in the future, and just add the jack to all radios.
  • by phillymjs ( 234426 ) <slashdot AT stango DOT org> on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:55PM (#6484902) Homepage Journal
    Damn, that sucks. Especially when the commercial kinda makes it look (to my unfamiliar-with-VW eye) like the iPod is a little better integrated with the stereo than that. Oh well.

    Depending on what kind of stereo you've got, you may be able to get an auxiliary input cable adapter. I got one from XMFanstore [yahoo.com] for the OEM stereo in my car, which has an unused aux connector for a CD changer-- the adapter I bought just ends in female RCA jacks, so you can hook up pretty much any audio input to it. Maybe one of these days I'll be in the mood to take the center console apart and pull the stereo out to connect that cable. Until then, I'm using a crappy cassette adapter. :-(

    Another product I'll be getting when it's available is this RF iPod remote control. [engineeredaudio.com] I plan to run the cable to a storage compartment in the console, so the iPod will be out of sight/the way but I'll still be able to control it.

    I agree with the "Why aren't they putting God damned input jacks on car stereos yet?" sentiment. What we really need are car stereos and MP3 players with Bluetooth, so they can connect that way. Of course, then you'd have short battery life without plugging the MP3 player into an auto power adapter-- but at least pretty much every car has someplace to plug one of those in.

    ~Philly
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:57PM (#6484909)
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  • by mekkab ( 133181 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @12:57PM (#6484913) Homepage Journal
    Aftermarket radios have front panel input jacks (I believe the AIWA MP3 CD player had one... )

    The other option is if you aren't using a trunk CD player and the head unit has RCA inputs, have an RCA to Mini adpater hanging out of your dash- then just plug and play.
  • by owlicks58 ( 560207 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @01:04PM (#6484954) Homepage
    It's not to hard to rig up a custom set up yourself. For most stereos you can at least get an adapter to allow aux inputs. On mine it runs through the cd changer controls to the aux input adapter. Then that runs to my belkin auto charger which has a little amp in it. The auto charger is spliced into the cigarette lighter, but this is all under the dash so all you see coming out is the data cable from the belkin charger. And the vent clip on cell phone holder that they sell at radio shack is a perfect fit for the iPod. Here is a pic of the setup. My iPod Setup [funkwebdesign.com]
  • no thanks (Score:2, Interesting)

    by heXXXen ( 566121 ) <cliff @ p c h o p p e r . com> on Sunday July 20, 2003 @01:08PM (#6484971)
    i'm just fine with my setup. my ipod plugs in to the AUX port on the faceplate of my aiwa deck in my toyota corolla.

    cassette adapters are a joke.
  • Weird (Score:1, Interesting)

    by AnonymousCowheart ( 646429 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @01:35PM (#6485135)
    Weird that they're pushing this, since the beetle is being discontinued [yahoo.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 20, 2003 @01:51PM (#6485238)
    Ummm no. But there are a substantial amount of VW's out there with poor quality OEM stereos, the quality difference from car to car is really pretty astounding.

    1) My 1997 VW Jetta "Jazz" came with a 10 speaker Bose system. Gorgeous sound.

    2) 2002 VW Jetta 1.8T w/ Monsoon Stereo (8 speakers), this car had sucky sound, pretty dull. Car got slammed by a ricer 9 months after I bought it.

    3) 2003 VW Jetta 1.8T w/ Monsoon Stereo... gorgeous sound, very tunable... almost prefer it to my old Jetta Jazz. Speaker positions could be a little better, but they're not bad where they are.
  • Re:iTrip (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Equuleus42 ( 723 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @01:59PM (#6485287) Homepage
    Wait, don't buy that iTrip just yet... MacWhispers recently conducted a review [envestco2.com] of four different FM transmitters, and the iTrip was rated poorly. The other transmitters they tested don't look as cool, and they don't use the iPod as a power source, but they tend to have much greater range and easier configurability.
  • by v1 ( 525388 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @02:23PM (#6485422) Homepage Journal
    a car stereo that has a "docking bay" slot in it where you can just plug in your iPod? That would be ideal, just stuff it into the dash to play your tunes in the vehicle, while charging the iPod, then take the iPod with you when you go. No need to pull the stereo out of the dash to load new music onto it either. And having an important component removable should make it less prone to theft also, as the MP3 stereos seem to be very high risk right now.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 20, 2003 @02:27PM (#6485444)
    Couple of guys already make these and have them pre-fab for certain models, head units, etc.

    PhatBox is one of them

    www.phatnoise.com

    kinda high on the price, but for the compatibility and integration into my new beastie...why not
  • SO dissapointing... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gotr00t ( 563828 ) on Sunday July 20, 2003 @02:29PM (#6485457) Journal
    I would have expected something much more from a corperate partnership between Apple and Volkswagen, like some sort of dock in the car that you can directly plug the iPod into and leave the headphone port free.

    Instead, its a lame combination of just a generic casette adapter, a generic cigarette lighter slot charger, and a bumper sticker, which they're ALWAYS out of. Instead of buying a beetle with this lame system,

    I think that I can build my own. All I need is a spare iPod dock, that kit that you can use to connect to the RCA ports behind the radio, and the charger that plugs into the dock. Then, I simply attach the dock to a drink holder or something, and there is a MUCH better solution than the one that Apple/VW is offering. All I would have to do is plug the iPod into the dock, instead of messing with wires.

  • Re:My iPod is super! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dasmegabyte ( 267018 ) <das@OHNOWHATSTHISdasmegabyte.org> on Sunday July 20, 2003 @03:23PM (#6485807) Homepage Journal
    It is a male fallacy that girls are impressed by long, sleek rocket cars.

    The girls I know like clean cars with luxurious acoutrements. Past a certain point, they don't care about how fast or loud or covered with chrome and decals it is. These are people who like SUBTLETY, who obsess over details, safey and cuteness. That's the beetle for you.

    Besides, the volkswagen beetle is a nice car. It's comfortable inside, surprisingly roomy despite its apparent size, and there are lots of really nice editions out there. My personal favorite is the 1.8 turbo with the two tone leather interior, sunroof, sport suspension, rims painted to match the paint job...I've got a friend who drives one of these in jet black, and he gets more bumper than a body shop (to quote the film Airheads). In fact, of all the members of his rockabilly band (with their requisite 1960s chevrolets), his car gets the most attention. Could also be the drumming. Chicks dig a drummer.
  • by ncc74656 ( 45571 ) <scott@alfter.us> on Sunday July 20, 2003 @04:02PM (#6486037) Homepage Journal
    Maybe your just in a city with too many radio stations. Though, I live in San Francisco, which I think has a fair number of stations, and I use the iTrip with no problem. I'm not a radio listener, in general, so I can't say how many radio stations there are in San Francisco, but I started with the low end of the dial, and ended up on channel 89.7FM, which works like a charm for me.

    I noticed that problem with an iRock transmitter on a trip to Phoenix...the four frequencies on which it transmits are all in use down there. Here in Las Vegas (or on the road between here and there), there are a couple of frequencies with which it works well enough. The factory radio in my S10 picks it up with no problems if the device playing the music (usually a Palm Tungsten T nowadays) is in the center console and the iRock dangles off to the side. (Don't know how it works with the Sony in my car, but since that has a tape deck, I'd just use a tape adapter there.)

    A head unit with a line-in jack would be nice, though. (Come to think of it, there's an outboard tape deck (installs in the center console) available for most Chevy trucks that works with the AM/FM/CD head unit. (My parents have one in their Tahoe.) This would imply that there's some sort of input (preferably line-level) on the back of the head unit. If there were a way to bring that out to a mini-jack into which you could connect an MP3 player, that'd get the job done.)

  • by joe_bruin ( 266648 ) on Monday July 21, 2003 @02:47AM (#6488895) Homepage Journal
    this ipod thing seems a little silly, given that they are selling phatboxes as dealer installed options [vw.com] on vw's and audis. (and yes, it runs linux and plays ogg vorbis)

    unofficial ogg for the ipod is found here [sixpak.org]

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