Panther Analysis Getting Underway

Durin_Deathless writes "Think Secret has posted their first article analyzing the changes from Mac OS X 10.2 to 10.3. In this first installment, they look at the changes to the Installation, System Requirements, the Finder, and some other things. They have some nice images available too."

"They have some nice images available too."

[PhoenixK7]

Translation: It'll only take 5 seconds to slashdot 'em.

Panther before LongHorn??

[jkrise]

Looks like reverse bio-engineering. Predators normally come after the prey!

Now with nice images!

[Anonymous Coward]

They have some nice images available too.

They're talking to MAC users, you _need_ nice images to gain their attention.

interesting

[Boromir son of Faram]

I see that they don't touch on the 64- vs. 32-bit issue. Not surprising, since the 64-bit G5s aren't available yet. I'm curious as to how much of an impact that will make.

Also, as cool as Panther looks, I expect Jaguar to stick around for a while yet. I haven't seen anyone mention this, but I realized the other day that since Jaguar is fully 32-bit, you should be able to take 64-bit hardware and run two full instances of Jaguar on it in parallel. Give each instance its own CPU on a dual G5 system, and you have two fully functional OS X systems running in real time on a single boxen!

I wouldn't even be surprised to see Apple start shipping systems in this configuration. It's great for companies on a budget (and who isn't these days?).

Re:"They have some nice images available too."

[Bob Wehadababyitsabo]

Quote: "Posted by CmdrTaco on Tue Jul 01, '03 10:34 AM" /.'ed by 10:40. Not too far off the mark!

Images

[Anonymous Coward]

"They have some nice images available too."

had

Re:I love the Places sidebar!

[nattt]

Copy and paste works great. I've been using this forever with OS X.

No wonder...

[dereklam]

I was surfing around MacRumors and ThinkSecret today, and I hit the ThinkSecret article. The article didn't come up, and I thought ThinkSecret was down.

Now I know the real reason...

LOL

[2nd Post!]

In case you didn't realize it, the Finder is supposed to be the computer, in a user-centric model.

So the physical device the Finder emulates... is your computer :)

Re:/.ed already

[Draoi]

wonderful OSX

Well, according to NetCraft [netcraft.com], their server is running FreeBSD. Go figure ...

Re:interesting

[platypus]

I haven't seen anyone mention this, but I realized the other day that since Jaguar is fully 32-bit, you should be able to take 64-bit hardware and run two full instances of Jaguar on it in parallel.

Hmm, I'd like to know what kind of esoteric idea of "bitness" of cpus let's you conclude that.
At least, you seem to share it with one moderator.

Re:interesting

[Anonymous Coward]

I can't wait until I can run 8 copies of Commodore Basic on a G5.

Of course it'll never happen, because Steve Jobs insists on keeping the specs of his beloved "computers" secret, locked in a safe deep in his dungeon office, watched over by his gimp.

I hear there is a two year back log of Mac users waiting to be the gimp.

Re:interesting

[avalys]

Ok, it doesn't work that way. That's like saying two arms is better than one because you can reach things twice as far away.

Just like having two arms, having 64 bits is an advantage, but not for the reasons you state.

Re:Now with nice images!

[Mikey-San]

Pretty pictures are better than white, monospaced error text on a big blue background. ;-)

Re:"They have some nice images available too."

[drinkypoo]

They are well-slashdotted at this point. I guess the name of the site is appropriate though. "This website will self-destruct in five seconds."

Re:interesting

[moonbender]

Also, as cool as Panther looks, I expect Jaguar to stick around for a while yet. I haven't seen anyone mention this, but I realized the other day that since Jaguar is fully 32-bit, you should be able to take 64-bit hardware and run two full instances of Jaguar on it in parallel. Give each instance its own CPU on a dual G5 system, and you have two fully functional OS X systems running in real time on a single boxen!

Running two (32- or 64-bit) processes in parallel on a dual-CPU machine, okay. But running two 32-bit processes in parallel on one 64-bit CPU? Um, no, that's not how it works. In fact, it's so stupid an idea that I am willing to think that I am misreading your message and it's not even what you meant.

I'm also not sure why exactly a typical user would want to run two operating systems on a single machine, especially not if it's the same OS in both cases and none is virtual. Meh.

The new finder already exists!

[Anonymous Coward]

Its called 'ls, cd rm, cp, chmod, and mv'!

Re:interesting

[Anonymous Coward]

The only flaw with your idea is that each copy of OS X will only get to use half a mouse button.

Because, As We All Know...

[Greyfox]

The real world device metaphor always works well. [libero.it]

Re:This looks like a strong release

[Arslan ibn Da'ud]

Imagine being able to place windows anywhere around your head that you liked, or perhaps all over your room, and then manipulating them by hand rather than by mouse.

I don't want to think about where pop-up ads are going to appear! If they can appear anywhere in my room, at least.

And the only way to deal with them will probably still involve only my middle finger!

Re:Expose!

[Anonymous Coward]

Expose yourself, buddy. The friendly people at the ISO toiled for years just so we could type Exposé on Slashdot.

(PS Slashdork hackers: fix HTML entities. Thank you).

Steve's Own Words...

[irving47]

"We call it aqua because it looks so good, you want to lick it." -Steve Jobs. MacWorld San Francisco Keynote. OS X's first big demo.

So what now? We lick the metal-brushed windows? They'd better be nice and smooth or I'll get metal splinters in my tongue. Wait... What if they're not warm enough? I don't want to get those things frozen stuck on my tongue!
Give me my aqua, por favor.

MAC Target Audience

[wo1verin3]

A quick glace of Apple's Panther Preview Page [apple.com] reveals to me the level of techical ability that Apple sees in its target market.

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Panther will include a final X11 window server for Unix-based apps, improved NFS/UFS, FreeBSD 5 innovations as well as support for popular Linux APIs, IPv6 and other important acronyms.
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I wish they'd lay off the acronym support until they get those vowels working properly!

Re:LOL

[Thuktun]

In case you didn't realize it, the Finder is supposed to be the computer, in a user-centric model. So the physical device the Finder emulates... is your computer :)

So why not indicate that through a more appropriate name than "Finder".

How about, say, "My Computer"...

(ducks and runs)

Re:MAC Target Audience

[shiva600]

It's funny. Laugh.

This was a joke Jobs made during his presentation.
A pretty well recieved one at that.

Re:Brushed metal and laptops

[Anonymous Coward]

On my iBook I can read it just fine, I clearly see:

Panty Analysis Getting Underwear at the top of this window!

Re:interesting

[Eric_Cartman_South_P]

haven't seen anyone mention this, but I realized the other day that since Jaguar is fully 32-bit, you should be able to take 64-bit hardware and run two full instances of Jaguar on it in parallel.

And I would like to know: Is that FULL SPEED 32bit or HIGH SPEED 32 bit?