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Friday Morning Release Party 104

usermilk writes "Apple has released an update for iMovie 3. It provides improved performance and stability, you can get it from the Software Update preference pane." Hopefully this resolves many of the complaints about what could be a really cool program. maxentius writes "The beta .7 version of Camino has been released. Once Chimera, this tabbed browser and Apple's Safari might start a real browser war. Which one do you prefer?" And on that note, an anonymous user writes "Safari v64 is making the rounds according to macrumors. Safari v62 brought us Tabs, and this new version (v64) appears to provide increased stability, improved tab appearance, loading status for tabs, and enhanced autocomplete."
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  • by Spencerian ( 465343 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @10:21AM (#5458145) Homepage Journal
    I know we'll have a few people who'll still grouse about the Ken Burns Effect of panning and zooming stills.

    Mac OS X Hints has this well documented. You can change two settings in the KBE settings, or you can disable auto-application of KBE to stills with a plist change.

    http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=200 30 207070603841

    or

    http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=200 30 204065235938&query=ken+burns+effect
  • Safari v64 Download (Score:5, Informative)

    by ihatewinXP ( 638000 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @10:23AM (#5458163)
    Get it here http://www.deepapple.com/ Just go to the "Downloads" section. Seems much more stable the v62. Should be nearing real 1.0 status soon (even the beta 60 is being installed now as default on Apple demo machines as opposed to IE).
  • Safari v64 (Score:5, Informative)

    by Erik K. Veland ( 574016 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @10:25AM (#5458189) Homepage
    Tabs are much improved and seem a lot faster too. You can now use your regular bookmarks as tab-collections by command-clicking a folder in your bookmark bar or choosing the Open in Tabs-option in it's menu.

    The loading info is very useful too. All in all the perfect tabs-implementation. Only nit-pickers care which direction the tabs face :)

    Oh, and auto-complete from Adress-book. Trés cool!
  • by mbbac ( 568880 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @10:48AM (#5458439)
    I've used iMovie's Ken Burns effect on my PowerMac G3 450. It seemed quick enough to me. Note that I haven't used iMovie's DV capability because I don't have a DV camera.
  • And, is it Ken Burns Effect (no apostrophe, as in : Ken is burning) or Ken Burn's Effect (with apostrophe, as in belonging or pertaining to Ken Burns)

    It's "Ken Burns Effect." See, there's this guy, Ken Burns. You may have heard of him. Made a couple of documentaries or something, including one about a war. Didn't have any video of the war-- I guess it happened before CNN or something-- so he had to use lots of still photos. The way he used them, panning across them while telling the story, got him some kind of recognition or something. So now whenever anybody pans across a still photo in a movie, it's called the Ken Burns Effect.

    (Sorry for all the snideness. Up late last night, up early today. Bad combo.)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 07, 2003 @11:16AM (#5458745)
    on Apple _demo_ machines in the retail stores.
    Dumped IE and then went to download safari with...........? How did you end up figuring that one out ; )
  • Re:Safari v64 (Score:5, Informative)

    by Twirlip of the Mists ( 615030 ) <twirlipofthemists@yahoo.com> on Friday March 07, 2003 @11:28AM (#5458856)
    On the other hand, the Safari tabs each have their own close button, albeit a non-standard "x" in a circle

    That's not non-standard. It's a standard Cocoa widget used to close a pane or other window part, although in all honesty I'm too lazy right now to look it up and give you more details. Suffice it to say that the x-in-a-circle close-widget has been used in Project Builder for months, at least.
  • by Atomizer ( 25193 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @11:28AM (#5458859)
    Mozilla has it, I'm using it right now. The only annoying thing I find with it, is that if you have two (out of three) of your home pages open and you click home, you get another three tabs. It would be cool if there was an option to only load the pages you didn't already have open.
  • by he1icine ( 512651 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @11:46AM (#5459022)
    the URL to the actual file is this:

    http://www.deepapple.com/downloads/index.phtml?S ES SION=8de6521251f3347e6cc0bdcde14e304f&oid=705&type =source&SESSION=8de6521251f3347e6cc0bdcde14e30 4f

    and once again if you haven't enable the debug menu, quit safari, open terminal and type:

    defaults write com.apple.safari IncludeDebugMenu 0

    relaunch safari, the debug menu is on the right and you can turn tabs (etc.) on there
  • by he1icine ( 512651 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @11:49AM (#5459044)
    oops, I fscked up

    this turns debug on:

    defaults write com.apple.safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

    this turns it off:

    defaults write com.apple.safari IncludeDebugMenu 0
  • by selderrr ( 523988 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @11:52AM (#5459077) Journal
    it's not that hard : go to another machine and write down the url (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/camino/releases/Camino -0.7.dmg.gz)

    and then use curl or wget in terminal.
  • Comment removed (Score:3, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @12:35PM (#5459482)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • Re:internet explorer (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 07, 2003 @01:09PM (#5459889)
    Microsoft has already pulled out of IE development, or at least all of its people are off the project. They are instead developing an MSN browser for OS X. It looks very good, but it's obviously targeting a completely different market.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 07, 2003 @01:38PM (#5460241)
    Only thin I wish was that you could set up timelines and paths on the KBE (ie., not just from A to B, but taking a portait and scanning from face to face without having to reimport the photo and hope that you can get the effects close enough to do the A to B thing again with the starting point being the ending point of the last...too much trouble).

    There is a way to do this - it's a bit clumsy but does work. The key is to use still frames as shims between KBE shots, and to alternate between doing KBE animations forward and in reverse to avoid having to re-zoom and re-position the photo.

    So, if you want to, as you say, scan from face to face, you can create a KBE zooming into the first face, then save that clip. If you preview the clip in the main screen, when it gets to the end of it (the zoomed in face) you can create a still frame of that (if it takes a still frame of the wrong thing at first (for example, the unzoomed photo), keep trying - it can be finnicky). You can then drop that frame into your timeline after the first KBE and it will hold the shot on that face for a few seconds with the exact zoom and positioning settings you initially set. Then go back to your photo, and you will notice that it remembers your KBE settings. What you must do now is leave the end positioning the same, but alter the begin positioning to move on to the next face you want to show and tell the KBE to animate in reverse. This will leave your zoom and positioning settings for the beginning of the next KBE to be exactly where your last frame ended, and you will have a nice pause in between animations. You can repeat this process over and over, and while it may be a bit tedious, it does give you the exactness you desire. You do not have to approximate anything, and it will look clean.
  • Re:internet explorer (Score:3, Informative)

    by bruce.adams ( 596972 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @01:48PM (#5460347)
    The one thing that IE on the Mac has that I've never seen in any other browser is a great print preview. It lets you scale the printout and see what you are going to get immediately. It also lets you "push" the top of the web page (where the nav-bar and ads are) off of the paper. Safari scales the printout based on the viewing window width (which wasn't immediately obvious to me). One can go through print preview to see what you are going to get, but it's much more painful.
  • by tbmaddux ( 145207 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @02:56PM (#5461101) Homepage Journal
    use curl or wget in terminal.
    FYI, no wget on my MacOS X 10.2.4 install, but curl is there.
  • Re:Safari v64 (Score:3, Informative)

    by TotallyUseless ( 157895 ) <(tot) (at) (mac.com)> on Friday March 07, 2003 @03:27PM (#5461391) Homepage Journal
    right now dragging a tab in the latest beta does nothing. In fact, the browser switches to the clicked tab on the mouse down, rather than on mouse up. Offhand, I can't think of any other Apple designed UI elements that actually activate, rather than showing pending activation on mouse down. Most wait until the mouse up signal to actually do their job. Im sure if there are other examples someone will be kind enough to point them out here.
  • by Draconix ( 653959 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @04:35PM (#5462023)
    This will greatly increase browsing speed, though it supposedly reduces stability, I've been using it for a long time, and haven't noticed a reduction in stability.

    First, make sure Camino is not running. Then open the prefs.js file, located in Library(the one in your user directory)/Application Support/Chimera/profiles/default/.slt

    Paste these lines into it:

    user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
    user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);


    Note: I got this information from Mac OS X Hints [macosxhints.com] some time back. A handy thing to know.
  • by dhovis ( 303725 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @04:55PM (#5462176)
    The problem was that if you have a voice over with no motion going on, people get restless and don't pay attention. (This being the MTV based concentration deprived generations)

    That is a little harsh. One of the reasons the effect is so appealing is that human vision is tuned to picking up motion. The other thing is that a TV is not designed to display still pictures, so a moving still picture will look better on a TV than a stationary one.

    And yes, it is the same Ken Burns of "The Civil War" et al. "The Ken Burns Effect" was the developmental name for Apple's pan & zoom effect, but when they showed it to Ken Burns himself, he gave his blessing to use his name in the finished product.

  • download manager (Score:2, Informative)

    by maxentius ( 603949 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @06:10PM (#5463105)
    Yes, you're right that the x-in-a-circle appears to be a standard widget. Sigh. Even Camino uses it in the redesigned download manager. Strangely, I preferred the old way Chimera did downloads -- you clicked, a window opened, showed the progress, then went away. Now, in Camino, a download opens the manager, and a two-inch deep panel describes the download in progress ... and then stays open. The next download adds another two inches to the manager window. Etc.

    Which is where these new "standard" close buttons come in. Each download panel has its own button; when all are closed, the 2-inch window tells you there's nothing to display. Very pVT.

    The red stoplight closes the whole thing, of course. I'm mostly irritated by the beanstalk window; it could be very easily refined with a preference setting or two. In the meantime it leaves me pining for the IE download manager. Yuk.

    Sorry about that widget mistake. I've been running Macs since 1985. First time I'd ever seen it -- and I've happily adapted to OSX.

  • by no_demons ( 602587 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @06:25PM (#5463234)
    Well, I'm not sure we'll ever see Safari with this particular feature. Found this info [mozillazine.org] from tab guru David Hyatt. According to this, all the other tab implementations discussed here were his idea, and he now works on Safari.
  • by bruce.adams ( 596972 ) on Friday March 07, 2003 @10:21PM (#5464839)

    Safari scales the printout to match the window on the screen (someone's idea of WYSIWYG I guess).

    Look carefully at the screen and the printout, the lines breaks in the text match exactly. If you want bigger text and graphics in your printout, make the your window narrower.

    "TextEdit" does the same thing, if it is wrapping text to the window width (seeing this in TextEdit is the only reason is the only reason I figured it out in Safari).

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