Safari Beta Leaked, With Tabs 275
ollie_ob writes "Seems a bit too good to be true: Apple listening to its community and implementing the features most requested? Apparently a build (v62) of Safari has been leaked into the wild, and has tabs -- though not fully implemented yet -- and primitive support for autocomplete in forms. The Think Secret rumor site has the scoop." It is not merely a rumor, I've confirmed it. It works nicely, too, in a brief test. Then I, uh, deleted the copy I looked at.
Hooray! (Score:5, Informative)
You need to activate the debug menu. While Safari is not running, write this in the terminal:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
Start Safari (Beta
Command-T will open a new tab as will right clicking on a link and choose "Open link in new tab". Command-W will close the tab you are currently using. Command-shift-right/leftarrow wil choose the prev/next tab.
One thing though, tabs slows down the gui, not page-load-time, but it takes longer to switch between tabs than to switch between windows. Also, if you have, say, 5 tabs in one window and are looking at the last (the one most to the right) command-shift-rightarrow will not cycle you back to the first tab. Another thing is that Safari sometimes closes the whole window instead of just the tab when you press command-W.
Ive got only small complaints, Im very impressed they got it working so well already. Cant wait for the final.
Tabbing is a nice feature, but Ive kinda got used to not using tabs after shifting to Safari. well, Ive just got to get used to tabbing again
Re:Hooray! (Score:5, Informative)
Cmd-Shift-click will open a link in a new tab in the background
Cmd-Option-click will open a link in a new window
Cmd-Option-Shift-click will open a link in a new window in the background
How did I find out? When you hover over a link, Safari shows you what it would do if you clicked that link in the status bar. Very convenient.
Argument for tabs (Score:5, Informative)
On my Mac I opened Chimera and filled up the window with as many tabs as it would allow (16 in a single window). All windows displayed the Slashdot mainpage. My Slashdot prefs are set to show all stories from all sections.
I checked the system usage in the Process Viewer app:
I then closed all the windows and did the same thing, this time opening 16 SEPARATE windows. Again with Slashdot's mainpage loaded in each.
Process Viewer showed:
So, according to this unscientific off-the-cuff test, you cut your RAM requirements in half by using tabs. YMMV.
I noticed this the other day when I opened over 50 different images in different windows. My Mac almost ground to a halt. I then opened the same images in tabs (in only a few windows
So, to all those who think tabbed browsing is purely a matter of personal preference, I suggest that there is at least a reasonable performance based argument for it.
to activate the Safari debug menu, do this: (Score:4, Informative)
2. Open a terminal and type:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
3. Relaunch Safari.
Re:Not to nitpick but... (Score:4, Informative)
Im sure there will be bookmark-groups when it is publicly released.
Re:Everyone? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Upside Down Tabs??? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Everyone? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Argument for tabs (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Oh? (Score:3, Informative)
HTH
Troc
Re:This is Great News (Score:5, Informative)
Here are some numbers from my machine (768MB RAM/128MB VRAM):
New Safari opened: ~9MB.
Slashdot loaded: ~13MB.
New window opened: ~16MB.
Apple page opened: ~18MB.
New window opened: ~21MB.
So what do we see? A new window takes up around 3MB. Is this "uneconomical", like you say? No, I rarely have more than 4-5 windows open so this is merely a drop in the water. Memory is cheap these days you know...
Re:Oh? (Score:3, Informative)
- Mozilla run on windows, many people use it and it have tabs
and more important:
Apple didn't create tabs idea, it came from Mozilla, then from Linux And Windoz...
Re:Oh? (Score:2, Informative)
I also despise the XP-way of putting all IE windows on the same taskbar 'button': 2 steps that could be made into 1 with a tab.
My 0,02$
clarificiation (Score:3, Informative)
When a user is using tabbed browsing, they are aggregating all of their windows into a single window. Clicking on "_new" links in tabbed browsing mode should open documents into new tabs, not new windows.*
"Right-clicking" and selecting "open in a new tab" is not an acceptable solution because it is unintuitive, not all users even have right-buttons (don't tell me to explain keyboard shortcuts to my grandma), and if a user in unsure of which links open into new windows and which ones are normal links, they need to adjust to a habit of right-click/open-new-tabbing EVERY link they encounter. I think you can agree that's pretty absurd behavior.
*an exception might be made for links that trigger new windows with specified sizes (like those small comments windows many blogs use)
Re:Everyone? (Score:1, Informative)
Safari 4 All (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.domestikalien.com/imagenes/safari_v6
origin of tabbed browsing? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:What about Keychain integration? (Score:3, Informative)
v62 is the first i've started using safari, and am liking it about the same as chimera for now. once there are prefs to open tabs in teh background, and a way to open up multiple sites in different tabs at the same time, i'll switch for good.
another benefit of the debug menu is being able to specify which browser you are represented as - so going to wellsfargo.com i can say i am MSIE and they let me use the site.
but there _is_ an easy way (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Hooray! (Score:5, Informative)
"defaults write com.apple.safari TabbedBrowsing 1"
Re:Now, if they would only release Linux? (Score:2, Informative)
Then check BSD Configuration Files on.
That is all since lookupd is configured by default like so: Cache FF DNS NI DS
Notice that Flat Files show up before NetInfo.
By turning this on you also get
P.S. This only exists because people like yourself complained during 10.1 and Apple added it for 10.1 so people whenever you feel something is subpar or could be better, http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/. Let Apple know.
Mirrors, md5sums, and some notes... (Score:5, Informative)
Tabs are off by default, but can be enabled in the Debug menu. Once enabled, cmd-T makes a new tab, as does cmd-clicking on a link. I'm a big fan of chimera's cmd-[ and cmd-] for moving between tabs; mozilla's lack of support for those shortcuts has always bugged me. Safari v62 doesn't use those keys, but it does let you move between tabs with cmd-left or cmd-right (arrow keys). Yay safari! I wonder when we'll see the real release of this beta...
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Re:Tabs vs. Windows? Bah (Score:1, Informative)
Dan Aris
Re:Argument for tabs (Score:3, Informative)
My solution is too cram as much RAM into OS X machines as they can take :-)