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Apple Applies For Color-Change Patent 466

Secret300 writes "Apple is applying for a patent to release "devices capable of dynamically changing their ornamental or decorative appearance." If this is a success, it would considerably boost Apple's presence in the technology world." So, perhaps we can not only theme our desktop on the machine - but our *literal* desktop.
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Apple Applies For Color-Change Patent

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  • by Bonker ( 243350 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:38AM (#4981159)
    A television screen, for example, or any other CRT can alter both it's functional and decorative apperance with just a change in display signal.

    Imagine a display on a CRT surrounded by a decorative border... like we see in most applications.

    Now if Apple had filed a patent specifically for a computer case that could change it's appearance at whim and provided a mechanism for it to do so, they'd be set, but no, the want to corner the market before there is a market. Boo, Apple!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:38AM (#4981160)
    I was going through middle/high school during the "lets buy all the computers we can so us teachers dont have to do our jobs" phase.

    Now dont get me wrong, I love computers. Im a verified geek. I have been ever since my parents sat me in front of the old Apple IIe at the age of six. (And gave be a BASIC book at the age of 7)

    Computers arent the savior of education that everybody was hoping they would be. Computers are a tool and nothing more. You will always have the children who choose not to use the tools available to them, as well as the children who have no tools available to them.

    I remember one time in elementary school we were in the computer lab of Apple IIe s and I decided to have a little bit of fun with the people in there - so I wrote a little program to show just how l33t I was:
    10 PRINT "THIS SCHOOL SUCKS"
    20 GOTO 10
    You wouldnt believe how much trouble I almost got in for that little stunt. I distinctly remember sitting in the hallway for the remainder of the class - with a large smile on my face. (This only got worse when I started going into Radio Shack Stores - Some of the messsages I came up with there probably affected sales quite a bit :-)

    Anyway - I remember in highschool (around 1995) when they built the computer lab full of older IBM 486 Lan Manager machines. We spent a large amount of time there (to my great surprise) - but it was only to waste time on substandard "education" games and work on composing some research presentation using some Powerpoint wannabe called "Linkway" or something.

    The point is: Most of those kids learned absolutely nothing. Most of them just goofed off in the computer lab. The teacher didnt even really know what the heck she was doing in there.

    The morale of the story kiddies: Computers are like an encyclopedia - they are only useful if you are willing to open the cover and explore. Until then - they are useless.
  • by The Other Nate ( 137833 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:38AM (#4981163) Homepage
    And when the open source community (or anyone else) figures out how to do this, they'll be sued by Apple?
    Does nature count as prior art? (chameleon)
    Is there a patent on covalent molecular bonds? Man, I could really clean up.
  • Boost what? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cloudmaster ( 10662 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:39AM (#4981168) Homepage Journal

    If this is a success, it would considerably boost Apple's presence in the technology world.

    I'm not sure how pretty colors will bost them in the technology world, let alone the ability to change amongst various pretty colors. Remember those sneakers with the clear logo and replacable colored inserts? That didn't boost the shoes in the technology world, why would a similar tech boost Apple? Have their shiny colored computers boosted them "considerably" so far, or was it their generally good hardware architecture and cleanly-integrated OS? Sigh.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:39AM (#4981170)
    That's the thing: Teachers do not know ... if computers can actually be used to solve the most pressing problems of literacy and numeracy - the sorts of things that get kids through exams."

    Computers cannot, on their own, solve any problems - they can perform complex calculations, sure, but you have to feed them the exact steps to follow. If kids do not understand the principles behind something as simple as multiplication or division, say, how do you expect a glorified calculator to help them? Sure they could use it to divide 22 by 7, but do they understand why they are doing that? Sure they can use spell check on grammar check, but is that any substitute for actually understanding sentence structure or knowing how words are properly spelled? That is how you solve literacy and mathematic deficiencies. You have to work at it - technology isn't the magical panacea everyone appears to think it is.

    You don't see architectecture schools talking about how power actuated fasteners are changing how they teach, do you? Of course not, they are just tools that save on labor. Computers are the exact same thing, and the quicker people realize that a computer is just another form of tool, the quicker everyone will realize that there is nothing mystical about them and their operators. Realizing this will help to devalue the artificially high prices of computer "engineers", cut down on overhead drastically, and provide just the shot in the arm our stock market needs to rebound.

    I don't mean to bash on our dedicated teachers - they are doing the best they can, given their abilities and environment, but hyping up computers as a replacement to study isn't a good idea. There's a reason we weren't allowed to use calculators until Calculus class when we were in school, and that is why we hand to hand write exams without a dictionary available. It is nice to have technology available, but it should always be as an assistant to aid the individual in his work- it should not direct his work
  • by Junior J. Junior III ( 192702 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:41AM (#4981181) Homepage
    "devices capable of dynamically changing their ornamental or decorative appearance."

    I thought that a patent had to be on a particular method or device, not on a general class of devices that has a capability to do something.

    If Inventor A patents Mousetrap A that works using a mechanical spring baited with cheese, and Inventor B invents Mousetrap B that works using poison, if Inventor A holds a patent on Mousetrap A, it shouldn't affect B's ability to build or patent Mousetrap B. It's not the capability of the device (the capability to trap mice in this case), it's the *method* or the *design* used to achieve that capability.

    Or has the patent system gotten completely screwed up?
  • WOW! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by CashCarSTAR ( 548853 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:44AM (#4981191)
    Apple invented the light bulb!!

    Seriously 'tho..after reading the patent I don't think this is anything that special. It seems like Apple is going to start putting RGB LED lights inside a specially designed case so you can change the color of it to match your surroundings.

    Is it just me or is this the hardware version of feature creep? Is Apple going to fit all its devices full of cute doodads just to raise the price more? My opinion is that Apple should be investigating an open architechture for its hardware..but that's just me.
  • by MrAndrews ( 456547 ) <mcm@NOSpaM.1889.ca> on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:49AM (#4981213) Homepage
    Quite aside from the patent-worthiness debate, I'd say that, after reading about this everywhere I could, this is a VERY novel patent. Much more so than any patent I can remember in the past few years. The ability to change the skin of objects (like an iPod, or a cell phone or what have you) really would make a big impact on many industries. That is a far better patent than, for instance, tabbed window interfaces.
  • by duffbeer703 ( 177751 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @10:54AM (#4981238)
    if ( $org within ("Microsoft"|"Amazon"|"Intel")
    && $topic == "patent" )
    {
    post.story("Patents are evil, Linux r0x0rZ!");
    }
    elsif ($org within ("Apple"|"Transmeta"|"VA")
    && $topic == "patent" )
    {
    post.story("Feature xxx is cool! $org r0x0rZ!");
    }
    else {
    ignore.story();
    }

  • by Thag ( 8436 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @11:05AM (#4981311) Homepage
    Or those t-shirts that change color, or those coffee mugs....

    Serisouly, even if they are changing color dynamically, isn't that basically just wrapping an object in "electronic ink" paper?

    Jon Acheson
  • by duffbeer703 ( 177751 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @11:57AM (#4981629)
    I traded readability for efficency with that code :D

    The most pathetic thing is, if Dell did something like this, there would be a front-page rant with 1500 replies to it in 10 minutes.

    But Apple is held sacrosanct, because they compete (poorly) with Wintel.
  • by klang ( 27062 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @12:07PM (#4981693)
    Maybe, just maybe this has to do with the backlighted Apple logo on the back of the iBook screen. (the cover, lid, whatever)

    By applying for a patent on this idea, Apple secures that no other laptop producer removes the light isolation on the back of an LCD screen to allow light to shine through a logoshaped part of the lid of the computer. The only part of the computer you can see in a dark conference room, I might add. ...or?
  • by lfourrier ( 209630 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @12:25PM (#4981795)
    The invention pertains to electronic devices capable of dynamically changing their ornamental or decorative appearance, i.e., the outer appearance as seen by a user. The electronic devices generally include an illuminable housing. The illuminable housing, which includes at least one wall configured for the passage of light, is configured to enclose, cover and protect a light arrangement as well as functional components of the electronic device. The light arrangement, which generally includes one or more light sources, is configured to produce light for transmission through the light passing wall(s) of the illuminable housing. The transmitted light illuminates the wall(s) thus giving the wall a new appearance. That is, the transmitted light effectively alters the ornamental or decorative appearance of the electronic device. In most cases, the light is controlled so as to produce a light effect having specific characteristics or attributes. As such, the electronic device may be configured to provide additional feedback to the user of the electronic device and to give users the ability to personalize or change the look of their electronic device on an on-going basis. That is, a housing of the electronic device is active rather than passive, i.e., the housing has the ability to adapt and change. For example, the light may be used to exhibit a housing behavior that reflects the desires or moods of the user, that reflects inputs or outputs for the electronic device, or that reacts to tasks or events associated with operation of the electronic device

    any hard drive in a transparent housing, with a led indicating seek or read, is covered by this patent
  • by Randolpho ( 628485 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @12:28PM (#4981810) Homepage Journal
    20. A method for illuminating a housing of a computing device, the computing device having a screen display, said method comprising: sampling a plurality of regions on the screen display to acquire color indicators for the plurality of regions; and illuminating a plurality of regions of the housing of the computing device based on the color indicators.
    So they want to make the housing look a little in tune with whatever is on the screen at the time. I wonder how fast that will be... can you imagine playing Quake and watching a frag flash your monitor housing a different color suddenly? That'd be cool. :)
  • by ironfroggy ( 262096 ) <ironfroggy@ g m a il.com> on Monday December 30, 2002 @12:31PM (#4981832) Homepage Journal
    those plastic snowmen with the fiber optics lighting would meet the requirements for this patent. sorry apple. additionally, its not even a new idea. sci-fi electronic camoflage suits do this as well. including, how about this, hotwheels color-changing toys.
  • by cryptochrome ( 303529 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @12:47PM (#4981913) Journal
    When I close the lid on my iBook and it goes to sleep there is a pulsing white light on the front of the machine where an LED is shining through the case. When that LED is off you wouldn't even know it's there.

    It'd be nice if there were similar indicators for new mail, or alarms from iCal, connection state, short messages, etc.

    THAT is how I think this technology will be used. As indicators of state independent of the display, that effectively use sparse cover space, that can change in multiple ways, and so forth. And uniquely, they don't mar up the computer's appearance when they're not needed. Possibly this will even be like having a second display capable of showing generalized information, at least in part. Changing the overall appearance of the computer is just a bonus.
  • by pohl ( 872 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @01:01PM (#4982014) Homepage
    What an idiot you are. That's like
    • going into a restaurant,
    • hearing one person exclaiming how eating veal is immoral,
    • witnessing somone else ordering veal, and
    • accusing the entire clientele of hypocrisy.
  • not too innovative (Score:2, Insightful)

    by steeef ( 98372 ) <steeef@@@gmail...com> on Monday December 30, 2002 @01:11PM (#4982070)
    at first i (like many slashdotters, from the looks of some of the comments) thought apple had come up with some new technology for changing the color of the computer itself.

    however, after seeing this picture [mac.com] posted on ars technica [infopop.net], it looks like what they're really doing is patenting a method of lighting. the picture suggests a light inside the monitor and the computer that illuminates the device. sounds like mod kiddes putting cold cathode lights and windows in their cases, doesn't it?
  • by Zico ( 14255 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @01:36PM (#4982261)

    The old MacOS could multitask just fine.


    No, it couldn't. Its cooperative multitasking was stone age technology. Clicking on a freaking menu item would often bring everything else on the system to a grinding halt.


    What OS X brought to the Mac was preemptive multi-tasking (which some people would say is not always a good thing for a single-user computer to have, but that's another debate).


    By "some people," you must mean "Mac apologists." What technologist EVER argued that the Mac's cooperative multitasking was better? Just the thought of that is hilarious.


    There were multi-CPU Macs prior to 2000.


    No kidding, too bad MacOS itself couln't utilize those extra CPUs -- ya know, kinda like I fucking wrote. I'm sure the technology world is real impressed that less than a handful of apps could actually utilize those extra processors. How efficient. Must be another example of Apple coming in first.


    Yeah, these uses are gonna be just about as practical as a line of multi-colored iMacs -- just what the world of hightech has been waiting for with white-knuckled anticipation. And about as useful as an Apple-branded mouse.

  • Re:new imacs (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Tseran ( 625777 ) on Monday December 30, 2002 @02:06PM (#4982482) Journal
    With all the discussion about prior art and how its not right to patent this and that Apple is all wrong and nuts for doing this, here's a few points to consider. Firstly, there is no prior art. We can't point at chameleons, since they respond to only a few stimulus to change their colors. You can't press a horn on one and get it to turn purple. If you have a chameleon with that much control, I think Ripley's would pay you big bucks to see that. Flashing LED's and monitor screens are nothing near what Apple is talking about in the patent (download the thing if you don't believe me) This is a lot more interesting. If you have seen the TiBooks you have seen how the Apple logo glows. Imagine if you could change the color of it. That is a lot more then a flashing LED. Now, why is Apple putting a patent on this? To protect their ass(ets) of course! Last time they had a truly original idea like this, the iMac itself, there were copies and knockoffs that made Apple look bad, especially when they tried to get them legally for it, the copiers cried that there was no patent and no trademark. Its about time Apple made a pre-emptive strike against the followers trying to ride the success of Apple's innovation.
  • by Archeopteryx ( 4648 ) <benburch@ p o b ox.com> on Monday December 30, 2002 @02:46PM (#4982772) Homepage
    Just because a Sciffy writer has used an idea in a story does not make it prior art! None of those guys knew how to make that magic happen, that is the charm of Sciffy; it lets you try on the future for size without the mess of inventing it.

    What is patentable is the means to DO the magic. A patent must disclose that means in a manner that those skilled in the art could reproduce the results.
  • by Mike1024 ( 184871 ) on Tuesday December 31, 2002 @11:45AM (#4988266)
    Hey,

    A television screen, for example, or any other CRT can alter both it's functional and decorative apperance with just a change in display signal.

    I'm no expert, but aren't you confusing the patent Title with the patent detail?

    For example, the first company to develop a way for producing steel razor blades applies for a patent entitled 'Method for producing steel razors', but that only protected the method described in the detail, not every possible technique.

    In fact, one of thier competitors developed a different method for making steel razor blades, and they were allowed to patent that.

    Just because this patent's title is quite broad, doesn't let them patent the entire market.

    Cheers,

    Michael

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