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Apple Reveals Mac OS X 10.2, 17" iMac, Windows iPod 1073

Steve Jobs today announced at the Macworld Keynote that Mac OS X 10.2 will be available August 24 for $129. "That's less than $1 for each major feature," he quipped. Updates will be available in some cases for $19.99. Also introduced were iTunes 3, iPod updates, iChat, iCal, iSync, a 17" iMac, and a lot more.
Many of the new features have been mentioned here before, including QuickTime 6, spring-loaded folders, integrated Finder searching, better Windows integration, new Address Book, new Mail, Rendezvous, iChat, and Sherlock 3.

The Address Book is now system-wide, accessible from many applications, and even has Bluetooth integration. Jobs dialed his cell phone via Address Book, and then when someone called him back on that phone, the computer popped up with the caller's name in Address Book. He had the option to pick up the phone or reply with a short text message.

iSync is a new system for synching your contacts and calendars with GPRS cell phones, Palms, and iPods; so Palms and cell phones are now a part of the digital hub. The iSync program shows you connected devices, and allows configuration of what to sync, and when. The demo showed a complete sync of an address book on the computer to the cell phone, again over Bluetooth. iSync will also allow integration with .mac to update your contacts and calendars between multiple computers, and will be available as a free download in September.

The Mail app now has much better searching and spam filtering, and inline QuickTime (no, that won't be abused ...).

Rendezvous will allow such things as automatic accessing of other's playlists in iTunes, accessing USB printers on the network, and more, with "zero configuration" (I hope there is some configuration, so I can opt in or out of such things). Epson, HP, and Lexmark will have Rendezvous-compatible printers. Jobs didn't mention any way to share USB printers between Mac OS and Mac OS X.

iChat, the new instant messaging program, and iCal, the new shared calendar program, can work with the $100-per-year .mac subscription, or with the free AOL IM account and any web server. iChat will use Rendezvous for finding local users, and shared calendars can be sent via iChat or mail. iCal will ship in September, as a free download.

Sherlock 3 has been completely rewritten, using Internet services (SOAP? XML-RPC?) instead of trying to parse HTML. The demo showed movie listings with embedded trailers, eBay searches with intelligently organized information and pictures, Google image searching, and a Yellow Pages search that knows your ZIP code and sorts by distance, and shows directions and maps.

iTunes 3 is out today, with new features such as rating songs, keeping track of how often songs are played, playing back all songs at the same volume, integration with audible.com, and "Smart Playlists" with rulesets so they are automatically populated (e.g., "25 most played songs", or "500 MB of songs where playcount is 0", to play songs you've never listened to). It is only available for Mac OS X, and requires registration with an email address.

For the iPod, Apple lowered prices on the 5GB and 10GB models ($299, $399), and introduced a 20GB model ($499). The 10GB and 20GB have a solid state scroll wheel, a door to protect the FireWire port, a remote control, and a case. The playlist counts, Smart Playlists, and audible.com integration sync between the iPod and iTunes. Sound volume check has also been added to the iPod. The new 10GB model is 7.692 percent thinner than the previous version.

Also added to the iPod, in addition to the contacts, is calendars, synched with iCal, so it can really act as a PDA for most people. Jobs also announced Windows versions of iPod, synching with musicmatch and including a FireWire 6-to-4 pin cable.

The new iMac has a 17" widescreen display at 1440x900, with an NVIDIA GeForce4 MX, G4/800, and 80GB hard drive.

Jobs also noted that there are 2.5 million Mac OS X users, that 77 percent of owners of new Macs keep Mac OS X as the primary OS, and that they estimate there will be 5 million Mac OS X users by the end of the year, representing 20% of all Mac users using the new OS in the first 24 months.

Apple showed some new ads in the "Switch" campaign, including a student who lost her paper on Windows, a student whose CDs get messed up in his bag (although they didn't point out that he can use iPod under Windows now), and a comedian who ended his commercial with, "My name is Will Ferrell ... and I'm a porn actor."

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Apple Reveals Mac OS X 10.2, 17" iMac, Windows iPod

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  • Yeah I thought so (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Uttles ( 324447 ) <uttles&gmail,com> on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @11:18AM (#3901751) Homepage Journal
    Somehow I knew apple wasn't going to come out and just have the 17" Imac as it's headliner. That article from a few days ago "Microsoft one ups apple" was way off...
  • by Jonathan Blocksom ( 139314 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @11:22AM (#3901785) Homepage
    The wide-screen iMac specs page [apple.com] gives the native
    resolution of the 17" iMac as 1440x900. This is a 16:10 display ratio, which is about as
    close as any monitor I know of gets to the
    Golden Ratio [surrey.ac.uk], (1 + sqrt(5)/2), or approximately 1.618.

    Clearly Apple is trying to channel Pyramid Power [geocities.com]
    to sell more computers.
  • MPEG-4 Stream (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dhovis ( 303725 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @11:27AM (#3901840)
    Phil Schiller noted near the beginning that they had 50,000 streams going and 25,000 of them were using the MPEG-4 stream. I think he said that this was the largest MPEG-4 streaming session ever.

    I was sitting at home using the MPEG-4 stream on my iBook 500 over 802.11b through my Linksys base station. The video didn't hiccup once, even as I walked around. I'm impressed. The picture wasn't huge, but it was pretty good quality, even viewed at 2x size. There may be hope for streaming video yet.

    iSync looks pretty cool, too. Next time I upgrade my phone, I want to get one with Bluetooth so I can use it. I've tried using a Palm, but I don't need something that big. One of those Sony Ericsson phones would do me just fine for what I want a palm for. Contacts, calander, to do... I'm glad that there is an open standard (SyncML) to do it.

    Oh, one more thing...

    The 20GB iPod is not the same size as the 10GB model, it is a little thicker than the 5GB model.

  • Re:$129?!?!?! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by King Babar ( 19862 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @11:36AM (#3901929) Homepage
    This is not bug fixes.

    This is an update.

    Alas, you are correct. It looks like they still have not fixed all the printing bugs.

    Seriously, my USB-connected printer was hugely more functional under Mac OS 9. Rendezvous sounds wonderful, but it apparently won't do much for my current HP inkjet.

    Yes, there are hacks to get USB printing working under the current OS, and I'll have to go with one of those, since spending $258 to upgrade the OS this year is...not going to happen very quickly. My most likely course of action now is to defer upgrading or purchasing any Apple stuff until 2003, which I fear is the opposite of what they were looking for here.

  • by mcc ( 14761 ) <amcclure@purdue.edu> on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @11:37AM (#3901937) Homepage
    Just one little interesting tidbit i noticed that is getting kind of lost in the noise: Did anyone else notice the little note on the Jaguar [apple.com] page? Apparently the 10.2 developer tools use GCC 3.1!

    I found this interesting, as i had heard that the bulk of the linux distributions had not yet managed to migrate to GCC 3. Neat to see Apple is staying on top of this whole UNIX-technology thing :)
  • Re:CallerID Info (Score:5, Interesting)

    by phillymjs ( 234426 ) <slashdot AT stango DOT org> on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @11:58AM (#3902143) Homepage Journal
    I'm seeing some pretty cool telephony apps with Web integration in my head that would be fairly simple to build, based on these foundations. Couple that with the standard Apache/PHP installation on X, and add in mySQL and perhaps a sprinkling of Applescript or C glue and you could do some massively cool stuff.

    With a little extra elbow grease, you can already do some cool stuff like this. My home automation rig uses a USB modem that supports Caller ID, along with x2web [sentman.com], MacCallerID [mac.com], Apple's Personal Web Sharing, and a smattering of AppleScript so I can log in from anywhere and pull up a web page to see if anyone has called my home phone during the day while I am at work.

    As an added bonus, if the server detects that I'm pulling that page from my internal LAN at home, it also puts a button next to each entry that, when clicked, will cause the modem to dial that entry.

    ~Philly
  • by weave ( 48069 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:00PM (#3902161) Journal
    Not only did I get screwed by buying a 10GB iPod two weeks ago for $499, it looks like I can't upgrade the software on it to include all those neat new features announced.

    The ipod software download is still at the older version 1.1....

    Grrr...

  • by Krashed ( 264119 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:05PM (#3902189) Journal
    I just got off the phone with Apple and they said "you'll have to buy two ipods if you want to use them on Windows and the Mac." Damn it, why can't Apple just for once make it easy.

    I am putting off my order of the iPod until I find out if there is a workaround for the "feature". That really bytes too cause it looks like the Apple Store is also offering a free car power adapter with the purchase of the iPod.
  • Re:$129?!?!?! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by laserjet ( 170008 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:08PM (#3902214) Homepage
    Only if you just bought your mac in the last month or so. The rest of us are expected to bend over and grab our ankles then cough up the money if we want to be supported in the future.

  • by afantee ( 562443 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:11PM (#3902228)
    Wow, I bet Apple will sell tons of this. For $200 more than the 15" iMac ($100 more than the original price), you a GeForce4 + 80 GB drive + the gorgeous 1440x900 cinematic display instead of GeForce2 + 60 GB + 1024x768. Who would still buy the 15" models?

    And of course, it's also a first class and virtually portable Unix workstation with the best GUI on top of a rock solid open source foundation plus FREE and great programming tools, who on earth will ever pay silly money to buy a Wintel PC, or a Sun, HP, IBM or SGI machines? Apple is officially the biggest volume Unix vendor with 2.5 million installed base within the first year of OS X release, and that number will be doubled by the end of this year. Should MS and Dell be concerned ? My answer is yes, especially when considering the new features in the upcoming Jaguar, and the ever quickening innovations that Apple is creating on both the software and the hardware fronts.
  • Re:$129?!?!?! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by imadork ( 226897 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:13PM (#3902243) Homepage
    The undertone of this keynote was, "We need more of your money." Other shows have been all about bringing more users into the fold, but this show was clearly about getting more money from the existing user base.

    I agree. Between 10.2. and .Mac, I'm beginning to wonder why Apple doesn't just hack into our credit cards and take the money out directly. H2K2 was not far away, after all...

    10.2 looks compelling, but most of the new features don't seem immediately useful to me. I may just skip this upgrade until I get some Bluetooth toys to play with.

    I also noticed this, snipped from macnn.com:
    One last thing: Apple lowered the price of the SuperDrive iMac by $100 to $1,799 and introduces new 17" flat-panel iMac. It supports 1440x900--66% bigger than the 15" iMac, adds a Nvidia GeForce4. The 80GB/256MB/17"/SuperDrive/GeForce4 model is due in August for $1999.

    That 17" iMac looks sweet, but I thought consumer-level computers were supposed to be getting cheaper lately. Even if this is the high end of Apple's consumer line, does Apple think that people will be willing to spend $2000 on an iMac? Or do they know something about the economy that we don't?

  • by Albanach ( 527650 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:17PM (#3902281) Homepage
    Sony [sony.co.uk] have been producing Picturebooks [sony-europe.com]with Bluetooth [sony-europe.com] support for many months. They run Windows XP, are a fraction of the size of an I-Book, I'd even say they look better :)
  • by teridon ( 139550 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @12:26PM (#3902349) Homepage
    Please point me to a webpage which states that you can use your coupons. The upgrade [apple.com] page makes no mention of them.
  • Re:$129?!?!?! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Coke in a Can ( 577836 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @01:07PM (#3902755)
    Technically, Windows Me was an update. It had a somewhat updated GUI, and some new software. It may have been ridiculously slow and buggy, but what company makes Windows? Right.
  • Re:HDTV Tip: (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Dredd13 ( 14750 ) <dredd@megacity.org> on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @01:21PM (#3902892) Homepage
    I bet that's intentional.

    Gives them 90 pixels for a title bar, without it interfering with the display area of the HDTV image.

  • by donutello ( 88309 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @01:26PM (#3902933) Homepage
    Doesn't a demonstration of such kickass tech (especially the Bluetooth stuff) realised today for the consumer show just how many streets ahead Apple are?

    What the hell are you talking about? My PC is quite happy to talk to my IPaq over Bluetooth today.

    This is all stuff that should exist under Windows, but doesn't. Apple has, after so many years, arrived at the point of equality (and now usurption) to everything else in the market - they can only produce better and better products.


    Yeah, but if any of this stuff was built into Windows wouldn't the same people on this thread be whining about how Microsoft is abusing its monopoly power to shove software no one wants down peoples throats and to drive competitors out of business ? Need I remind you that Microsoft is currently being sued for including a web browser and media player in the OS - nevermind any of the more advanced features.
  • by Garin ( 26873 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @01:47PM (#3903105)
    Yep. There's good and bad. For me, though, today's announcements caused a subtle shift in my feelings. See, I just bought an iBook a couple of months ago.

    Yesterday, I was a proud and happy mac owner. I really enjoyed it, and I thought the value was excellent. I was excited about the new software, the new hardware, and just the whole new approach that apple takes to computing. (Before I bought the iBook, I was primarily FreeBSD + M$ for games). I bought a new digital camera, and I already have over a thousand great pictures in iPhoto. I have 4GB of music in iTunes. All my friends use my iTools email address, and read my iTools webpages. I was learning how to develop with Cocoa. I was exploring the Unix guts, and getting to know it quite well. Even after months of use, I still thought the iBook was fun and cool -- previous laptops and other toys quickly became routine, but this was still a thrill.

    Today, I -still- use iPhoto, iTunes, and the development tools. However, my attitude has shifted. Before I was totally hooked by the software and the hardware, and I was very happy and excited about it. I read the apple rumours sites, and really enjoyed this new approach. Now, after today, I'm -still- hooked by all of the software, but now I feel bitter and slightly resentful about that fact. iTunes, iPhoto, and all the rest are still excellent programs that I really don't want to give up. Now, as I say, I resent that fact rather than relish it.

    The first hit is free I guess. It's very evil, what they did to me. They got me hooked, and then used it against me. *sigh*. I'll probably buy the update AND pay for the iTools/.Mac/whatever, but grudgingly. Because I'm hooked. I suppose it's my own fault, since companies exist purely to make profit and I conveniently ignored that while I played with my shiny new toys. Ah well. It was fun for a while I guess.
  • by nvrrobx ( 71970 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @01:59PM (#3903198) Homepage
    Okay, $1999 for the 17" iMac.. That's NOT bad, if you consider the display itself is worth almost $700+ (comparing to a Samsung SyncMaster 171S), and the SuperDrive isn't exactly cheap on its own either. Sure, Apple wants a bit too much for RAM, so just get it with 256 megs and get on crucial.com [crucial.com] to buy the rest of your RAM.

    I've been a die-hard PC user for years, but I'm also a wireless nut (cell phones and such).. The Bluetooth integration and that display just excited me and gave me goosebumps...

    I know this is the Mac I _have_ to own.

    My boss just made a comment - he'd love to buy his wife one, but he's afraid she'd never touch a Windows PC ever again. :)
  • by Sebastopol ( 189276 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @03:16PM (#3903802) Homepage
    What's up with Job's quote:

    '...Apple is now the biggest supplier of Unix-based operating systems in the world -- "bigger than Sun, bigger than Linux" -- Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced during his Macworld keynote speech on Wednesday...'

    Anybody buy this?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @03:30PM (#3903919)
    Can comeone mod this down as troll!?

    Why don't you go to the Mac OS X home page and try that link that reads "UPGRADE"
  • by 0ptimus ( 27513 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @05:09PM (#3904710) Homepage
    On the Mac Support site, I found a post that detailed a method to convert your .Mac trail account to an email-only account. It looks like this would take care of the problem of having to pay if you only use email:

    -----------
    (login at www.mac.com, go to the support screen and select email in the help section at the bottom left of the screen):

    Converting your .Mac trial account to an email-only account

    IMPORTANT: If you choose to convert your trial account to an email-only account, all your data files on Apple's servers (except for email messages) will be removed. Other .Mac services, such as iDisk, HomePage, Backup, and Virex, are not accessible to email-only accounts.

    To convert your trial account to email-only, go to www.mac.com. Click Account in the .Mac menu bar, then click the Email Account Management button. Enter the member name and password of the trial account you'd like to convert, then click Convert.

    Print your account information for future reference, then click Continue.
    ------

    The poster on the support board mentioned that while the instructions are available, this process does not yet work, but hopefully this functionality is coming soon, as it would erase many of the complaints people here have about the change to a paid service.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @05:39PM (#3904903)
    Go to the federal employee store [apple.com]. Click that nice shiny "I Accept" button. Buy Jaguar for $69.50. Enjoy chewing satisfaction.
  • by 2nd Post! ( 213333 ) <gundbear@pacbe l l .net> on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @06:53PM (#3905323) Homepage
    You aren't forced to, now, pay Apple for 10.2; you can just, well, install FreeBSD. Or Darwin at least. Or Yellow Dog Linux. Or Debian. Or whatever. Why does exiting Apple mean going for cheaper and lower quality components? You can still run your iBook or 17" iMac with a conventional Linux or BSD based OS...

    Now, as I see it, what you're trying to do is avoid becoming an addicted zealot.

    That is understandable. I loathe myself for lusting after a 20gb iPod and a 17" iMac or a 23" Cinema HD Display.

    But... it almost seems that you're overcompensating in your actions.

    "Hm, I don't want to be prey to AppleLust and AppleZealotry, so I'll get rid of my Mac altogether."

    Is this like losing weight through purging? Or controlling sexual desire through abstinence?

    The weakness is in you, not in Apple. Getting rid of the Apple hardware doesn't remove the fact that you still have that weakness in the first place.

    The difference (for me) is that I recognize I have the weakness (AppleLust), but as much as I *want*, I don't let it compel me to instant spot purchases or decisions.
  • by Thorkytel Ant-Head ( 593092 ) on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @09:04PM (#3905850)
    When I was sold an iBook, part of the package was "free access to iTools" and "free updates as they become available". Nothing there said it was temporary....

    Well, nothing said it was permanent either. You were never promised "lifetime access to iTools." And again, iTools access was not a specific part of your iBook purchase; it was simply an added benefit for Macintosh owners. Or to put it another way: If you buy a computer that says, "Lets you access your favorite web sites!", and then your favorite web sites disappear, are you going to complain to the computer manufacturer that those web sites were "part of the package"?

    When I was sold an iBook, I was given three coupons for free upgrades to the operating system. Part of my concern was that it is a young operating system. I was repeatedly reassured that these coupons were my ticket for free upgrades.

    Apparently you were misinformed. That is unfortunate. Hopefully Apple will train its salespeople better in the future.

    Mac OS X 10.1.5 is not self-contained. The operating system is not complete and fully stable.

    You are obviously using some definition of the word "self-contained" that I am unaware of. No operating system will ever be fully stable. However, as of right now, it is self-contained in that it does not require anything external to continue working. You admit that it works "fairly well," so what's the problem? Printer updates will also probably be made available. Those are independent from the OS version.

    But, while 10.1.5 may not be self-contained, 10.1.5 with a commitment to upgrades as they become available is self contained. This is what I have lost.

    Again, I find it hard to believe that you were promised unlimited free upgrades. Bug fixes and new features often go hand in hand, simply because it would be impossible to test all bug fixes without any of the new applications and features built in. Apple has to live in the real world, just like the rest of us.

    What I object to is that Apple changed their deal with me after I committed.

    Again, what "deal"? Your imaginary "deal" where Apple promises to make online services free for life? Where Apple promises to distribute free software updates until your OS is "complete and fully stable"? Sorry, but life doesn't work that way.

    I was sold on the idea that Apple takes care of its customers, and that everything "just works" and that there are "no surprises".

    Apple does take care of its customers. However, it is naive to imagine that they would take care of all customers indefinitely, for free.

    Naive? Maybe.

    My sentiments exactly.
  • BSD Security Fix? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by BandwidthHog ( 257320 ) <inactive.slashdo ... icallyenough.com> on Wednesday July 17, 2002 @09:06PM (#3905857) Homepage Journal
    I found this buried with other unixy stuff at the bottom of the features page [apple.com] for Jagwire [appleturns.com]:
    Extended username and password
    I'm wondering if this means they've fixed the long-standing [slashdot.org] BSD (and therefore OS X) password issue [slashdot.org]?

    (Once word of that gets around we'll get a few points back on the stock, right? Right?)

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