BFS Creator Giampaolo Joins Apple

zephc writes "According to The Register, Dominic Giampaolo, creator of BFS, Be's journaling file system, has 'joined Apple as a file system engineer. He started last week.' As a Mac user and former BeOS user, I am delighted to hear this, as it has great implications for the future of filesystems on the Mac. The article is a great transcript with Dominic and another BeOS great, Benoit Schillings." Another user adds, "Interesting for a man who once said that Apple was the epitome of everything Be was not."

epitome

[HughsOnFirst]

"the epitome of everything Be was not".
Still in business is the first thing that comes to mind unfortunately

Re:epitome

[rjamestaylor]

Since Be Isn't then the rule "Apple == everything !Be" means Apple Is everything.

I doubt he'll be porting BFS to Mac

[LordNimon]

Chances are, he was hired to work as an OS X kernel developer, not necessarily as a file system developer. And even if he was hired in the file system group, it's still unlikely that he'll port BFS to Mac, because that's a brand new file system and its existance would just complicate things. He may, however, work on adding journalling to HFS, much like ext3 is a "journalling version" of ext2.

I've been looking at Linux kernel development jobs in my area, and all of them are for people with very extensive experience (over three years in the Linux kernel itself, for example), particular people who have developed a major component of the kernel itself. Of course, 99% of these people already have good jobs, so these positions will go unfilled for months. Anyway, my point is that it doesn't surprise me that someone like Giampaolo has joing Apple, because it's just part of a trend - only people who have lots of experience in the field are getting job offers.

Deja Vu

[aztektum]

Deja Vu [slashdot.org]

Re:Deja Vu

[zephc]

in all fairness, look at the date (it was submitted before the original about him made it to the front page):

2002-03-30 17:14:11 Dominic Giampaolo joins Apple (apple,apple) (accepted)

cool

[entheon]

uh, I don't really know half of what these guys were chattering about but it was entertaining and I'm glad apple has dominic, sounds like a good guy. maybe I'll go hack up my own filesystem, I've been inspired.

As in: 'a viable company'

[iamcadaver]

"Interesting for a man who once said that Apple was the epitome of everything Be was not."

Re:As in: 'a viable company'

[Ratso Baggins]

Oh so witty....

I see this as a follow-on effect from the dot-bomb. Now tallented people a prostituting themselves, because they have to. Very very sad really.

Re:As in: 'a viable company'

[Picass0]

Now tallented people a prostituting themselves, because they have to. Very very sad really.


What, the guy gets a job with Apple and that's a bad thing? As if his work at Be was done out of charity?

Did it occur to you that the influence of former Be developers could be a Good Thing(tm) for OSX?

Also, any new file system Apple builds is going to be an open standard for the sake of Darwin development.

lol

[iamcadaver]

Nothing really funny, just a /. loser that just noticed the aqua design on the mac posts....

Metadata

[AK47]

I'm hoping he'll be working on a metadata solution for the Mac OS X filesystem. The transition from 9's file type metadata to X's filename extension has been a big step backwards, and the BeOS is renowned for its handling of metadata. Perhaps Apple hired him with an eye towards imporving things?

Re:Metadata

[SpotBug]

That was my first thought too. Let's all cross our fingers.

Who manages this Apple news section?

[Anonymous Coward]

Ummm... did anyone else notice this article was actually published on 03/29/02. Not exactly breaking news, folks. MacCentral [maccentral.com] is REAL source for up-to-the-minute Mac info/news.

Re:Who manages this Apple news section?

[crazyj]

I think you meant to say MacCentral is the REAL source for up-to-the-minute Mac press releases pretending to be stories.

Let me know when...

[qurob]

...Apple hires Jean-Louis Gassee
:)

competition?

[CanadaMan]

When I read this headline the first thing that I thought was that Apple wants to start working on something to compete with Microsoft's plan for a database file store in one of the upcoming versions of Windows, either Blackcomb or Longhorn. Probably Blackcomb. Of course, I'm not suggesting that Apple doesn't have engineers who couldn't do it without this fellow, but at least there is a sort-of-high profile guy they can garner some expertise from.

Re:It is easy to switch filesystems if done correc

[mattvd]

This is true. And they do it now: HFS+ and UFS

Test Apple's resolve: ask them for BFS features!

[depeche]

If we are to really believe some of Apple recent rhetoric, they are listening to the community. There was a proposal [mindspring.com] floating around the net and a petition [petitiononline.com] to support it. Also the 'Feedback' button on the MacOS X support page apparently is attached to some Apple interns or some such who actually sort through the comments. The fact that the resources to start adding more meta data and journaling to HFS+ are available at Apple may indicate that they are listening. The way to find out is to continue to let Apple know that the BFS and its features (along with the features of other good, modern file systems) should be brought to HFS+ and that meta data as the primary MacOS X file association system should grow, rather than diminish.

Epitome

[Wise Dragon]

Whereas Be is now the Epitah of everything Apple was not the Epitome of.