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Time Canada Shows New iMac 987

Kira-Baka writes "Okay, Time Canada screwed up big time. They have pictures of the new iMac which will be released tomorrow during the Mac World Expo keynote on their front page. it is likely that they will be getting a letter soon so though..." I'll be posting a full report on the keynote and other MacWorld goodness tomorrow as it happens. Time Canada seems a bit slow, but in short, think little pod of iMac with superdrive and flat panel screen. Update: 01/07 13:22 GMT by T : Several readers have pointed out that the story can (for now) still be found mirrored here, though it's been pulled from the Time site.
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Time Canada Shows New iMac

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  • Wow. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by SuperRob ( 31516 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:30AM (#2796161) Homepage
    You know, I really can't deal with Macs. It's mostly the software. I've always admired the hardware design.

    This is really nice. It's low-profile, technologically "edgy".

    I'm sure Slashdot is going to cruicfy Jobs, and probably me for saying this ... but I like it. And if I could stand OSX ... I'd probably buy one.
  • Nice (Score:2, Interesting)

    by abahta ( 257353 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:31AM (#2796167)
    Wow, looks nice. That's the first iMac I would love to have on my desk. I'd still need to see the specs first, though.

    Also, check this out: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=9b448943 1fd0dd8256bd428a175b4f4e&postid=3565275&t=6786#pos t3565275
  • by davebo ( 11873 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:38AM (#2796206) Journal
    The Time Canada article also spills the beans about iPhoto - long-rumored "digital photo management" software for the Mac.

    The "big feature" (besides easy management/sorting/viewing of digital photos): you can arrange your own photo album, doctor it up nice & pretty like, and with a click of a button, a $30 charge on your credit card, and a week or so for the mail, you'll get a hard-covered book of the selfsame album.

    Neat.
  • by Konster ( 252488 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:44AM (#2796244)
    Interesting to note that the concept sketch took only a day, but to squeeze the hardware into the small untit took almost two years. "He had a good working sketch of the new design within a day. But engineering the machine-squeezing all the gear into the little box that Jobs wanted-took nearly two years." But, it costs a LOT...even with a gee-whiz flat-screen. "You can buy a PC with a flat-panel display and a built-in DVD burner for around $1,800, the same as the equivalent iMac." also... " Still, at $1,299 for the entry-level iMac, the product could be priced too dearly to attract many converts from the PC world." So...$1200 - $1800 for an iMac? Don't get me wrong, I'm a PC user, but I do like Apple's hardware, and Mac OS X is OK, but $400 for an iPod, $1,800 for an iMac? Apple prices its products to high to make a convert out of me. Plus, it looks like a lamp. It lacks the OOH AAH factor that the original IMac had at launch.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:52AM (#2796291)
    Imac image mirror [hotvomit.com]
  • by LionMan ( 18384 ) <leo@stein.gmail@com> on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:55AM (#2796315) Homepage Journal
    Come on, it's not bad for Apple that people see this a few hours earlier than they would.
    But, judging from all the flame the design is getting (clay blob ... bumbersome floating panel ... etc.) this is my current Conspiracy Theory (tm):
    1) Apple give Time Canada info about their new Mac in advance, but mock up the clay-blob-stick-panel design.
    2) Let Time Canada release this early. Naturally /. and/or other news sites will pick up the "blunder" ;).
    3) Reveal the /real/ new machine, far more slick and appealing than the old machine or the clay-blob-stick-panel (Apple has a good sense of aesthetics, why would they make something look silly?)
    4) News sites will catch the discrepancy. People like the real one. People will talk!

    As they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. But I'm just a conspiracy theorist.
  • Re:ooohhhhh shit... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ahde ( 95143 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:57AM (#2796320) Homepage
    news sources used to try to "get the scoop" instead of "sell the product", so in a twisted, antiquated way, TimeCanada.com did *good*.
  • by green pizza ( 159161 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @01:05AM (#2796372) Homepage
    The iMac only Jobs could love.

    Seriously.

    This is not a computer for geeks. It's certainly not the computer for schools. And I can't imagine most households wanting something like this when room is plentiful and 18" LCDs (or 21" CRTs) are cheaper than ever. Even die-hard Mac fans are unimpressed.

    So, who is Apple targeting? I feel this may set them back *much* further than the Cube.

    I wish Apple good luck, they need it.

  • pictures (Score:5, Interesting)

    by oyenstikker ( 536040 ) <slashdot@NospaM.sbyrne.org> on Monday January 07, 2002 @01:11AM (#2796402) Homepage Journal
    just some neat pictures i found on the web.
    i wonder what they are?
    i know nothing about them, just thought they looked cool, so i copied 'em to my hard drive.

    http://129.21.139.1/imac.jpg
    http://129.21.139.1/imac2.jpg
  • by Roy Ward ( 14216 ) <royward770&actrix,co,nz> on Monday January 07, 2002 @01:30AM (#2796490)
    Two things can be meant by this:

    (1) Keeping the proprietary hardware, but with an x86 instead of a PowerPC.
    I don't see the advantage in changing from a chip with plenty of growth room left (PowerPC) to a chip nearing the end of its line (x86). In any case, with this option, it would be an orphan, because it wouldn't run old Mac software, and still wouldn't run Windows, as there are lots of things done differently other than the CPU.

    (2) Move over the the whole Intel-PC architecture.
    This would mean throwing out Apple's big advantage - that they can integrate the OS and the hardware nicely, they don't have to put all the kludges in to ensure that their OS runs on a vast array of 3rd party hardware. I think Apple wants to be more than just box makers.

    In neither case would I regard this as a good thing for Apple or Apple users.

    Anyway, this is an old rumour, and would only happen if IBM/Motorola both dropped the PowerPC and forced Apple to change.

    I notice that the web site you referred to also talks about the 'iWalk', which I understand has been pretty much discredited.
  • Re:Luxo the iMac? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by toupsie ( 88295 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @02:00AM (#2796629) Homepage
    That's why the codename for the new iMac was iLamp!
  • Au contrair. . . (Score:4, Interesting)

    by "Zow" ( 6449 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @02:06AM (#2796658) Homepage
    If you're a webmaster at timecanada.com, I suggest you start cleaning out your desk now.

    On the contrary - when Chris posted the story he said, "Time Canada seems a bit slow", but when I went there, it seemed just fine. That can only mean that this Webmaster not only survived a /.ing, but improved performance of their system in the process. Maybe some heads will roll, but they'd be idiots to fire whoever's running that shop.

    -"Zow"

  • Won't happen.

    First, it would mean ostracising all those old-school, "megahertz means nothing" PowerPC addicts with MacClassics hot-rodded to run OSX. It would really be a bad scene, as well, having to maintain 2 versions of their code. Yes, Darwin is portable to i386, but big deal; NT4 was portable to PowerPC too. Didn't see many Blue-And-White's running NT4. (look on your NT4 disks to see the MIPS, PPC, etc. directories!)

    Second, one of the nice things about the Mac platform is the integration between hardware and software. Software can control the bootloader and nvram dynamically. I have not seen anything on x86 that lets you, for example, change the boot device. This may seem like a trivial example, but it means a lot when dealing with hardware, drivers, etc.

    I had the notion that, perhaps, there is nothing unique about x86. It's a processor. Perhaps Apple has contracted with someone to build an x86-based mobo, that uses OpenFirmware? In other words, bring all the coolness of the Mac hardware to the PC world. The problem is, of course, its not a PC anymore, except that you will be able to swap cards between machines without flashing the BIOS of the card. It's possible, but I would think someone would have mentioned it.

    Although clever wording "it's not a PC" could really be useful here. It's an Intel based machine, with more-or-less commodity hardware, that's not a PC. Might be interesting, but I doubt it'll happen.
  • It's been pulled (Score:5, Interesting)

    by enkidu ( 13673 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @03:39AM (#2797013) Homepage Journal
    http://www.timecanada.com [timecanada.com] now redirects to http://www.time.com/time [time.com]. I guess it was a goof and not a stunt. And I guess the doofus at timecanada just got his pink slip.
  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @05:44AM (#2797334)
    The one thing that makes me think it might have beek OK for Time to post the news is that the article referred to the new iMac thusly:

    "which will be unveiled at the annual Macworld convention in San Francisco this week"

    Which seems to indicate it was written to be released ahead of the actual unveiling.

    Of course, that argument made more sense to me before they started redirecting to the main Time web site! Now I'm leaning to the thought that your assesment was correct, and this was a massive blunder.
  • Re:Oh well (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SubtleNuance ( 184325 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @09:03AM (#2797662) Journal
    Thats why real canadians dont by time "canada", they read there own news magazine: Maclean's Magazine [macleans.ca]

    If your not a Canadian youve probably never heard of it - almost every Canadian does.

    Besides, as a post states below, saying Time-Canada is really a cop out for reselling commercial propaganda.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07, 2002 @12:18PM (#2798584)
    It's really more than a minute or two.

    Yeah, Apple stuff costs a bit more than most el-cheapo consumer oriented PCs. When you compare it to high end workstation equipment ('cause that's what a Mac is) there's very little price difference.

    Add in a really great OS. Sure, MacOS has it's little bumps and flaws but far fewer than most commercial desktop OS. I run 8.6 at work on a PowertowerPro 180 - that's a 180mhz 604e. It works great for what I do. I also have an identical machine running Yellow Dog 2.0 next to it - it does my network testing and monitoring. I'll probably be buying a Titanium Powerbook soon (for less than a comparable PC laptop I might add) running MacOS 10.1 - I'll be able to run my network apps on it (most have already been ported). Am I giving up on linux entirely? Not at all. However there's some very nice things in MacOS that I'm rapidly becoming addicted to - a clean user interface that is *consistent*. Lots of apps, and Applescript. Applescript is possibly one of the most useful things I've ever seen - easier/cleaner than any comparable MS alternative and there's nothing to compare (yet) on Linux or *BSD.

    Anyway, that's my rant for today. Until recently I hated Macs - then I had to start using them (I work in an all-Mac shop now). It's amazing how you get used to stuff that "just works".
  • Keynote UPDATE (Score:2, Interesting)

    by MontyP ( 26575 ) on Monday January 07, 2002 @03:10PM (#2799539)
    I remember a few years ago when they announced the IMAC, I listened the keynote on streaming audio. I was amazed.. Today I watched the keynote on QuickTime. The new IMAC is very cool. It comes with a 15-inch flat screen display suspended on the base of the computer. This screen can swivel 180 degrees, raise up and down, and tilt forward and backwards. The base itself is only just over 10 inches in diameter! They come with a CD-RW up to Apple's super drive (CD-RW, DVD-R). Starting at $1299.

    Apple also announced a really sweet image editing program that automatically imports, edits and prints images from a digital camera. IPhoto can also publish to a website (provided on apple's servers), order Kodak prints online, and even publish a hard bound book of photos. All in one application. This application and the new iMac completes apples "digital hub"

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