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Safari "Carpet Bomb" Attack Code Released
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on Wed Jun 11, 2008 01:56 PM
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snydeq writes "A hacker has posted attack code that exploits critical flaws in the Safari and Internet Explorer Web browsers. The source code can be used to run unauthorized software on a victim's machine, and could be used by criminals in Web-based computer attacks, security experts say. The public example of the attack code allows attackers to litter a victim's desktop with executable files, an attack known as 'carpet bombing.' In combination with bugs in Windows and Internet Explorer, attackers can run unauthorized software on a victim's computer."
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Wrong section, eds! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Wrong section, eds! (Score:4, Informative)
the "bug" is that Safari has the users desktop as the default download directory, and will automatically download files if you go to some websites. This is normal and fine behavior. The problem is that Internet Explorer loads files from the desktop on launch, which means if you craft a malicious library and put it on the desktop Internet Explorer will happily load it.
Microsoft should fix IE to avoid loading files from the Desktop.
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Re:Wrong section, eds! (Score:4, Insightful)
No, it isn't.
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It really is bad UI behavior (on both Mac and Windows).
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Safari isn't implementing the basic security that is implemented in Windows.
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Then again, maybe I'm wrong. If you download and install a printer driver, are you warned the driver is unsafe the first time your try to print?
Re:Wrong section, eds! (Score:5, Informative)
Safari should NOT be auto-dumping files onto the Windows desktop. PERIOD.
There's enough blame to go around everywhere.
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Re:Wrong section, eds! (Score:4, Informative)
That said, IE is worse here - downloading files without my permission is bad form, but a pre-installed system app loading DLLs from any old place that it finds them, especially one of the most common places to dump downloaded files, is just idiotic.
Shame on all.
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Quick Workaround... (Score:5, Informative)
1) Launch IE from a location other than your desktop (e.g. Start Menu, Quick Launch Tray).
2) Go to Program Files\Internet Explorer, Create Shortcut, and then place that shortcut on your desktop. Make sure the "Start In" setting is set to any location other than your Desktop.
Better yet... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Quick Workaround... (Score:5, Insightful)
C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe %1
This problem seems to be two fold. First, Safari will automatically download stuff, to your desktop, without asking you. Secondly, IE will load DLLS from the desktop, just because they happen to have the same name as some other DLL it is looking for. I think the bigger problem here is with IE, because it doesn't matter how the dll got on your desktop, it shouldn't be using it.
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If you disable active web content on your desktop (thus only allowing
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Red herring. It's got nothing to do with "Active Desktop". It's just the way Windows executables typically look for .dll files -- starting with the current directory and then each path listed in the PATH environment var.
In this case the shortcut to IE is launching the program with the user's desktop as current directory. First of all, it shouldn't -- probably it should be one level up from, there, in the user's home directory. Second, MS might want to rethink the way they hunt for .dll files for system
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This is a longstanding Windows flaw. (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:This is a longstanding Windows flaw. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Yes, that's a standard part of a social engineering attack. This does make social engineering attacks easier, and should be fixed (let's start by downloading to something like %PROFILE%\Downloads instead of the Desktop). This is similar to the problem where Safari on OS X
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I'd call that a fundamental flaw with the Windows environment itself. It sounds like this "desktop" thing is used as both a temporary scratchpad for miscellaneous data from arbitrary untrusted sources, and as a repository for locally trusted executables. Someone at Microsoft needs to get it strai
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If so, why is %PROFILE%\Desktop in %PATH%?
Oh, no, it's this one: "While this is true, the behavior of the "DLL Search Order" (when it's disabled) is to look for the DL
Best Solution (Score:3, Interesting)
As soon as the attack centers on an Apple product, they'll start moving their ass. Until then, it's "not [their] problem".
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As you say, the article is your friend.
"The Safari bug, originally disclosed on May 15 by security researcher Nitesh Dhanjani, allows attackers to litter a vi
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If it weren't for Safari downloading the files to the desktop by default, they wouldn't get there.
If it weren't for IE opening these files from the desktop by default, they wouldn't open.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'd like to feel completely secure. I'm going to go install my old copy of OS/2 Warp v3 and Netscape Communicator.
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Sure, Safari (on Windows) can carpetbomb & spam your desktop. That's potentially annoying (but ultimately doesn't harm your system).
There's a distinction between Safari "making available" the malicious executable versus it actually being executed, which like I was saying, the person I was responding to
MSFT needs to fix this ASAP (Score:3, Interesting)
Regardless of what the default is in Safari or even Firefox, a user can still change that default to anything they want including the desktop.
As others have pointed out, the downloads folder is a Leopard specific feature used by Safari when running under Leopard and the executable warning thing is also a Leopard feature.
Who uses safari for windows and IE? (Score:4, Interesting)
Personally I think the bigger issue is that Safari will auto-download, auto-mark-safe, and auto-run files silently. IE's broken too, but either one of the players involved could render this exploit moot. Let's see who responds first before stoning someone to death.
I still don't see why someone would be browsing around in safari and then open up IE. A regular user's likely to only use his favorite browser and a dev who needs to view the same site in multiple browsers would probably notice that there're a bunch of new .dll files all over the desktop.
Re:Secure from the ground up! (Score:5, Informative)
So the real issue is that Safari can be told to automatically download a file while internet explorer will automatically run a malicious dll from the desktop. actual post and proof-of-concept code here [fc2.com].
seems like a misleading summary to me.
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Re:Secure from the ground up! (Score:4, Informative)
So the real issue is that Safari can be told to automatically download a file while internet explorer will automatically run a malicious dll from the desktop. actual post and proof-of-concept code here [fc2.com].
seems like a misleading summary to me.
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Re:Secure from the ground up! (Score:5, Informative)
The 'workarounds' suggested by MS include "Change the download location of content in Safari to a newly created directory". I don't actually know what's going on with this, but it seems like it's IE opening an improperly-named (or maybe there's some bad meta-data that comes along with it?) file from the desktop, no matter how it got there.
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Closest resources first (Score:2)
For example, if IE needs to use mm.dll it will first look in the working folder, if it doesn't find it there, if will check the system's path variable and see if it can find the library in any of those folders.
In this specific case, if you are running Safari, it can auto download a new file, say, 'mm.dll' to your desktop. Safari doesn't care about it, BUT, the next time you start IE f
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And yet this is listed as a Safari flaw?
Come on, how insanely insecure is it to run executable code from the desktop! Hasn't windows had protection on the windows and system32 directories for about 6 billion years now for this very reason? And then they go and make it pull executable code from just about the least secure place on any PC.
From where I'm sitting this is a massively Microsoft problem, but their suggested "fix" is still the easiest solution by far. B
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Re:Secure from the ground up! (Score:4, Informative)
So yes, IE is in fact autoloading executables from the desktop. It's Safari's vulnerability to carpet bombing that sets the stage, but it's IE and Windows that cause the big boom.
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Re:Secure from the ground up! (Score:5, Informative)
Basically, on Windows Safari automatically downloads files, in imitation of its behavior on OSX, but whereas on OSX it downloads them to a nice ~/Downloads directory on Windows it downloads them to the desktop. Also, on OSX Safari tags the downloaded file as 'unsafe', but it fails to use the Windows functionality to do the same on Windows. This leaves a whole load of files that you never asked for or wanted lying around on your computer in a state that is one step away from being executed.
This 'attack' allows a malicious person to force Safari to dump thousands of files on your desktop, which in and of itself is not a nice thing, but when coupled with other exploits it can lead to code execution of these files you never wanted in the first place - whether those exploits are patched by the vendor (Microsoft) or not, we both know that a significant portion of desktops are not kept fully up-to-date with security releases.
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mod parent up (Score:5, Insightful)
If Windows has an "unsafe" flag for files, it should be used by Safari. Also, I find using desktop as default download space incredibly annoying (yes, i'm looking at you firefox).
That said, IE should also know better than to execute random files from the desktop, which seems like the nastier issue here.
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There is one (Score:4, Informative)
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These files are being loaded as trusted libraries of shared code that likely bypass anti-virus and other such protection apps.
Yup! (Score:5, Informative)
Carpet bombing is still an issue, if for no reason than it is an annoyance.
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No it doesn't. It downloads to ~/Desktop by default. You have to change that yourself. (Unless 10.5 has a new folder that 10.4 doesn't)
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Second, this is about a Windows flaw that Safari has not addressed (rather Apple) in its current iteration. Apple's browser can be considered a "patsy" in this... and MS is trying to pass the buck (so to speak.)
Third, the "open safe files after downloading" is old news. Get a new schtick.
And Fourth, grow up. This isn't about Apple's security, it's about Microsoft's... and Apple's inability to prevent "stupid is as stupid does" on a Windows machine. They're good... just not mira