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Apple May Introduce New iPod on Wednesday
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Zonk
on Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:13 AM
from the tiny-christmas dept.
from the tiny-christmas dept.
UnHolier than ever writes "Apple may be planning to announce a 'revamp' of the iPod on Wednesday. Reporters from across Europe have been asked to view a broadcast presentation by Steve Jobs at the BBC headquarters. Theorized features for this new iPod include a full or wide-screen with touch controls, ala the ever-popular iPhone. '[An analyst with Goldman Sachs] believes that a new line of iPods will boost demand for the gadget from Goldman's present forecast of about 19.8 million units for Apple's key first quarter - the reporting period that covers Christmas. However, that still suggests that demand for iPods will be flat, at best, compared with the same period last year, when Apple sold about 21 million devices.'"
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Speculation isn't news. (Score:5, Funny)
Sure it is (Score:3, Funny)
*it does have very tangible effects, in the form of moving markets.
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You know (Score:5, Insightful)
That said, I have a 3rd gen iPod, and it's getting close to the time to replace it, I have hopes for a widescreen color iPod in the 100 gb range, So if it's avaiable soon, I may very well bee the 19 million and first sale this year.
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You can reject the possibility of a full-screen iPod ("ala iPhone" as the summary says) right now: because well, it's expensive.
iPhone costs $600 with 2 year AT&T contract. A $600 iPod wouldn't sell well.
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Awesome (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Awesome (Score:5, Informative)
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Scratchable screens - Yes, because all cell phone manufacturers and manufactuerers of other DAPs use completely unscratchable screens. Dude, learn how to take care of your things. I have a 3rd gen iPod and the screen is gorgeous still because I value it, and make sure I take care of it. It ain't hard. Take personal responsibility.
Faulty earjacks - yes, the earphone jacks are built to have their solder joints break on purpose. I'm sure it has nothing to do with tons of pressure being applied to
Re: Flamebait (Score:2)
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Itunes can rip to MP3 as well as AAC.
Re:Awesome (Score:5, Informative)
Once again, for the newbies:
- AAC (ADVANCED Audio Codec) has NOTHING to do with Apple, beyond being their compression scheme of choice. Posting the Wikipedia link would insult us both.
- The iTunes STORE sells tracks that only play on iPods; taking Steve Jobs at his word, this is only due to DRM required by the record companies.
- Most "mp3 players" will play AAC-encoded tracks. It's just a codec for mp4s, after all. If you really can't find one, go to your local community college and take a class on Google.
- If you're really that paranoid about AAC, set iTunes to encode in mp3 before your first rip. Then you will be able to survive in a world where only iPods can play tracks ripped in iTunes. Whatever world that is, because it ain't this one.
Now PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE shut the fuck up.
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Re:Awesome (Score:4, Insightful)
Creative Zen supports AAC.
Also, the Zune supports AAC (although it doesn't support having any market share, so i figured you wouldn't accept it as an example.)
The PS3, PSP, Xbox 360, Sansa e200R all support AAC as well.
(the sansa apparently requires a firmware update)
As far as your search criteria for your google example goes, you really do need to go take that class if you thought that was a good way to search for portable hardware devices that support AAC.
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Now I know that every time this is mentioned some Apple fanboy will pop up and say that AAC is open, but I've never found anything other than the iPod that can play it
Uh, what? I was ripping AACs with CDex and playing them in WinAMP before iTunes supported it. Philips were making AAC players before Apple, and all relatively recent Nokia devices support AAC. Pretty much any software player supports them, and most devices other than the Zune support it. The only thing less proprietary than AAC is Vorbis; even MP3 has stricter licensing requirements in order to support it.
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Rumor Roundup (Score:4, Informative)
May? (Score:2, Interesting)
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The "photos" in question was a single snapshot of a computer screen that had a PhotoShop file displayed on it. The PhotoShop file was a crude mock up, of an advertisement for *one* of the rumoured new iPods. Apple asked for it to be taken down as it had *some* Apple IP in it. Best bet is still that it was 9to5mac.com (the site that posted the image), or their Chinese in
I have always wondered (Score:2, Interesting)
I still listen to radio ocasionally when I want to listen to something different.
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Shame really, radio hardware can be tony, and costs almost nothing.
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I can't say on the subject of FM or XM, but one possible reason that an AM radio isn't included with the iPod could be that the device itself could intefere with good AM radio reception (since it never actually turns off). I've noticed that many digital audio players (DAP) that include an FM radio don't include the ability to receive AM, so it could be that the nature of a DAP makes it unsuitable for use as an AM radio, possibly because its relatively small size makes it difficult to isolate the AM circuitr
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because radio is SO 1985 and jobs looks towards the future, not the past (and for what's playing on radio, it's not like it's a loss)
I think this is spot on.
:-)
iTunes is about music, and iPods are about quality.
Why would Apple put AM or FM radio on the thing? So you can catch up on the pig farmer reports? So you can "catch the game" or listen to those annoying morning DJ's? Howard Stern?
Wow, what a cool, trendy image *that* projects.
Radio is junk, and it's what we now refer to as "ad-supported streaming media." Why would Apple go near that with a ten foot pole?
Sounds like the European iPhone launch to me (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Sounds like the European iPhone launch to me (Score:5, Informative)
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Knowing Apple, though, it'll probably be both. After all, if they have flown in European journalists then why fly them in twice in a matter of months when you could get everything done in one go?
I predict the new iPods, plus confirmation of the European iPhone launch dates, service providers and sample price plans.
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may not be wireless (Score:3, Interesting)
http://lunchat.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/klee
thus it may not have any skype/wireless capabilities.
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Re:may not be wireless (Score:5, Interesting)
It would conceivably allow Apple to produce an iPod with wireless like capabilities for sharing tunes and "squirting the social" (a la Zune), but not necessarily introduce the complexity of wireless and browsers and skype and so on. With Kleer, each iPod would be a broadcasting station and multiple wireless listeners could listen to the same iPod simultaneously. This would also figure in with the rumoured iPod "kiosks" that are said to be going up at Starbucks for selling iTunes to patrons.
I find it kind of believable because the technology is bleeding edge (typical Apple), it would instantly turn iPods into the highest quality audio devices out there (also typical Apple), and make it possible to do all those social things that were the Zune's only real innovation ("the social"), without all the DRM and legal complications. It's such a perfect solution, that if Apple doesn't use this technology or something very similar, the next Zune could run rings around them just by implementing it.
This is all wild rumour at this point however.
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Have analysts ever been correct... (Score:3, Interesting)
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You, sir, rock.
Re:whoreabull corepirate nazis introducing new &am (Score:2)
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Re:Based on iPhone? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds to me like everyones business model except AT&T's wins here. I can live with that....
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look at the contracts... (Score:5, Interesting)
If you unlock your iPhone and don't use it on the contracted provider, then Apple loses that money.
So yeah, the unlocking has likely hurt Apple's business model.
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The contracts Apple signed in Europe give Apple 10% of the revenue the wireless provider gets from activating the phone.
If you unlock your iPhone and don't use it on the contracted provider, then Apple loses that money.
So yeah, the unlocking has likely hurt Apple's business model.
That presumes that there is a significant percentage of people willing to go with the provider that Apple partnered with, that is, willing enough to put up with that provider to own the iPhone. It's all pure speculation, but it seems like apple will make more on the phone than they would have otherwise with sales lost because of the provider in the partnership.
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As long as Apple makes money on the phone (which seems likely), they come out ahead. People who don't want AT&T can now buy the phone. This is a big deal in Europe where AT&T has almost no market.
You're assuming that the AT&T deal is worldwide, which isn't the case as far as I know. Last I heard, Apple were in negotiations with the major Euro telcos (Orange, T Mobile, etc).
That having been said, Apple would be better going with the proposed 3G version of the iPhone in Europe for reasons I cover in this comment [slashdot.org]. (Note that this was written before I was aware that Apple *did* intend launching a 3G version of the iPhone).
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I own two other real Macs already - G4 eMac and a Powermac G4 dual 1GHz with 23" Cinema display. I'm just in the process of working out which to retire/sell and what to replace with - once Leopard is out, that is.
Hackintosh is a cool experiment but the scene seems to consist of a handful of very talented hackers, some very shady types, and a lot of what we in the 80's would have called Lamers.
Whoah there, this is now both off-topic and flamebai
Re:Do you only hang out in places where there is w (Score:2)
At a previous job, I was full time and was working with several contractors. I asked one of the contractors to e-mail me a document that I needed and he said "no, I'll setup an FTP server on my machine and you can login and download it" and he then spent the next two hours fiddle-farting around with trying to setup and run an FTP ser
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Still lame (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:My suggestion: (Score:5, Funny)
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what i do know is that 2 of our suppliers who normally don't sell apple stock were offering cheap ipods for the past 2-3 months here in ireland. they really seem to have been off loading ipod video and ipod nano stock. i also heard from friends who had companies they dealt with offering similar deals. now it might just be the lower end but it was still a significant departure for these companies to suddenly offer stock from a company they normally had no dealings with.
prices offered to us
* ipod nano 4gb 165
* ipod 30gb black 210
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What? You've not heard of PDOOMA? It's sweeping the Internet, the TV and the newspapers of the world! It's the latest in business analysis and information.
PDOOMA = Pulled Directly Out Of My Arse.
Just like the 1/100 memory miss rate. Nice work. You may have a career in punditry waiting for you somewhere.
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