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History of the Apple Newton
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on Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:28 PM
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from the bonk-ow! dept.
Sabah Arif writes "We've all heard of Apple's Newton, the portable handheld device under John Sculley's rule at Apple that debuted to big media attention and much fanfare but never managed to take a strong footing in the marketplace. The same handhel that went on to be 'Steve'd' when Mr. RDF killed the project after taking control of Apple. That's the extent of knowledge most of us have with regard to Apple's first handheld device. OS Opinion sheds light on the early days of the pocket Apple." From the article: "Apple in the late eighties had become stagnant. The Macintosh had become Apple's cash cow like the Apple II that had preceded it. To protect the Mac, Apple was hesitant to start or pursue any project that might compromise the company's revenues. Several people in the corporation were weary of this approach, and began to look at the future of computing. One of those people was Steve Sakoman."
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Beat up Martin (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Beat up Martin (Score:3, Informative)
God, I'm such a nerd.
Re:Beat up Martin (Score:2, Insightful)
Fiji (Score:2)
More history of tablets/handhelds at Apple (Score:3, Interesting)
Larry Yeager (Score:2)
Re:Larry Yeager (Score:2)
Re:Larry Yeager (Score:3, Informative)
Way ahead of its time (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course, we can all thank the Newton for paving the way to a lot of our mobile device concepts. Well, the Newton, and Star Trek.
Just goes to show.. (Score:2)
They were like a grand each, in '80s dollars.
Re:Just goes to show.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Way ahead of its time (Score:2)
Re:Way ahead of its time (Score:5, Insightful)
AFAIK, the Newton got discontinued because there was no demand for it. They weren't selling well, so Apple decided that it wouldn't make them anymore. Had it come around several years later, just as Palms, etc, were exploding into the market, the current tablet PC market would be a lot different.
I have an MP100, and it was ahead of it's time. It did a lot of things well (except HWR), and with a better processor HWR would've come along (and IAR Graffiti was available for the Newt).
Later I had a 2K with keyboard and modem for a review I was writing. It truly was a very usuable laptop replacement, I carried it to class in grad school. Unfortunately, the price killed it - I also had a PalmPilot, as an organizer it's size and lower cost made it a far better machine than the Newton. For whatever reason, Apple decided not to develop the Newt to it's true potential while Palm created a new market.
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Re:Way ahead of its time (Score:2)
IIRC, the last generation of Newtons used the same processor (StrongARM @ ~200MHz or so) that was used in PocketPCs like 6 or 7 years later.
Re:Way ahead of its time (Score:2)
Not quite true. Prior to Jobs' return to Apple, the Newton was spun off into a subsidiary of Apple, Newton Inc. Jobs' first act was to reabsorb Newton and then kill the project. It's widely known that Jobs was displeased with the Newton, partly because it was a John Sculley initiative.
As a matter of fact, there was a fair bit of interest in the Newton t
Even Coral Link is down... (site can't get to DB) (Score:2)
Any other mirror links?
Defying Gravity (Score:5, Informative)
Sure wish I got one while they were around--a local store was giving away a copy free with every Newton 2100 back in the day.
Re:Defying Gravity (Score:2)
RDF (Score:3, Interesting)
Though, the Newton really was a failure. It did many things right, but it was too bulky and costly: the Palm Pilot was less sophisticated, but it really matched what consumers needed.
Re:RDF (Score:3, Funny)
So Jobs is a Jedi?
<waves hand>You will pay too much for this music player</waves hand>
I will pay too much for that music player.
Re:RDF (Score:3, Funny)
Does that make Bill Gates a Sith?
Hmmm. Lets see, the attributes of a Sith:
1. Ruthless. Check.
2. Almost unstoppably powerful. Check.
3. Desire to dominate all they see. Check.
4. "Always there are two, a Master and a Apprentice". Gates & 'Monkey-boy' Balmer, Check.
5. Has questionable personal hygene. (At least until he married Melinda) Check.
6. Routinely double-crosses 'partners'. Check.
7. Corrupts others with their dark power. Check.
Looks like a match so far, though I'm not co
A Wish for Newton Reborn as a Tablet (Score:3, Interesting)
Who knows if we'll ever see it though. It's not clear if there is a big enough market (I think there is but the products aren't good enough yet) and Steve Jobs just doesn't seem fond of the idea. But if anyone could really make it work, I think it would be Apple. Guess I have to keep dreaming...
Re:A Wish for Newton Reborn as a Tablet (Score:2)
Truth be told, I'm stunned that the Slashdot community hasn't gone wild over the concept. (I suspect that the main reason here is that MS is touting it, therefore everybody goes into cynic mode...)
The appeal of the TPC isn't the handwriting or all that malarky, it's that you can hold the unit and provide input to it while you're standing. In other words, you don't need a flat surface to use it like you do wit
Still waiting for a successor . . . (Score:3, Interesting)
I had several Newtons - an MP 100, an MP 120, and finally an MP 2000 (that was later upgraded to an MP 2100). The technology improved dramatically over those generations, and I really would love to see what would have emerged had development continued.
Since the Newton, I've used Palm, PocketPC, and Sharp Zaurus PDAs, and have yet to find anything I consider a worthy successor to the Newton. The integration of all the applications was seamless, and the software was truly designed to be used on a PDA, not just scaled down from some desktop application.
The form factor was a little clunky - either a smaller pocket-sized device, or a full-size tablet would have been better in my opinion - but I'm still looking for an overall user experience that's comparable, and haven't found it.
what is the history of a fig newton?? (Score:2, Funny)
Re: fig newtons with apple flavor (Score:2)
mirror (Score:2)
The caption is wrong. (Score:4, Funny)
hawk
Surely you've heard this one. :-) (Score:3, Funny)
A: Faux! There to eat lemons, axe gravy soup.
Newton Puff Piece - precursor to announcement? (Score:2)
Egg Freckles (Score:3, Interesting)
In the prototype MP 2000 units (code named "Q"), the first run or EVT units: Write "About Newton" and press Assist. In the DVT and production units it says "What about Newton?" followed by "What about xxx?" where xxx is the name of each developer who worked on the project (sequentially).
In the EVT units, instead of the developer names, it uses Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp.
Also, you gotta love the Area 51 Easter egg in the first 2.0 Newtons.
There was also a Solar Eclipse easter Egg, but I can't remember what OS version/models had it. (Possibly the MP100.)
I love the Newton.
Re:Egg Freckles (Score:2)
Article in full (Score:3, Informative)
Thomas Hormby submitted the following editorial to osOpinion/osViews, which gives us more in-depth knowledge about the Netwon project during its original development -- such as the fact that it could be said that the Netwon originated from a concept device Sculley called Knowledge Navigator."
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Apple in the late eighties had become stagnant. The Macintosh had become Apple's cash cow like the Apple II that had preceded it. To protect the Mac, Apple was hesitant to start or pursue any project that might compromise the company's revenues. Several people in the corporation were weary of this approach, and began to look at the future of computing. One of those people was Steve Sakoman.
Steve Sakoman worked at Hewlett Packard before he came to Apple, where he helped develop the first HP notebook. When he joined Apple he was happy that he 'was not going to make DOS clones for the rest of my life.' Steve had joined Apple to work on the MacPhone, a collaboration between Apple and AT&T.
After the project was canceled, he saw that Apple was not willing to take the same risks it had with the original Macintosh or even the Macintosh II. He went to Apple's director of new products, Jean Louis Gass'e, and threatened to quit unless he was allowed to create the 'future Macintosh', a computer that would be as influential on the computer industry as the original Macintosh was. Gass'e sympathized with him, and gave him permission to begin an independent research group
While Sakoman was at Hewlett Packard, he saw several 'hand entry computers that did not use keyboards. He was intrigued with the idea of scrapping the keyboard. The fact that most computers used a QWERTY keyboard was a mere fluke, he thought. Steve thought that a more natural method of input would take hold, like handwriting or speech.
Sakoman set to work immediately, getting his brand new research group off the ground. He recruited developers from around the company, including some original Macintosh developers. Like the original Macintosh and their off-site office, Texaco Tower, the new team moved to a converted warehouse on Bubb Road. Steve named the team 'Newton'. He did so because Sir'Isaac Newton was featured prominently in Apple's original logo and because he had prompted so many changes in the way people viewed the world.
At the time of the Macintosh II introduction, John Sculley had a video produced featuring his Knowledge Navigator device. He envisioned a tablet style device that would fold out to reveal a large color LCD display. The software would interpret the users commands via a humanoid assistant. The device could recognize voice commands, and interpret handwriting commands. Prescient of the internet, Sculley would have the device be able to communicate fluently with similar devices and servers around the world.
The Knowledge Navigator never went any further than the video, but John Sculley hoped that the technologies he had envisioned in the device would find life in other Apple projects. He thought that the Newton would be able fulfill his vision, and became one of its most vocal proponents.
The research group first found out what they wanted in a computer, and created a prototype design. Without any marketing staff, the team came up with a very advanced, very expensive device. The new machine was to be based on two AT&T Hobbit processors (a design that was very easy to program for) and would be about the size as an A4 sheet of paper, and feature a large, LCD, grayscale display. The true star of the new computer would be its software. The engineers wanted full handwriting recognition that
Replacement for keyboards (Score:5, Insightful)
He was intrigued with the idea of scrapping the keyboard. The fact that most computers used a QWERTY keyboard was a mere fluke, he thought. Steve thought that a more natural method of input would take hold, like handwriting or speech.
Handwriting: vastly slower than typing, even for crummy typists like me.
Speech: unusable except in private.
Does anyone see anything replacing keyboards anytime soon?
Re:Replacement for keyboards (Score:4, Funny)
Datajack.
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Re:Replacement for keyboards (Score:2)
Monkeys...or pidgeons. Chances are, they'll have a far less tenuous grasp on the written word than do the youth of today. Not to mention the fact that they'll work for next to nothing...
Re:Replacement for keyboards (Score:2)
Or more accurately, creating an interface for a computer that can read your brainwaves so you can just think about what you want it to do. Probably 50-100 years off at least, but there are basics being done now (moving a cursor around a screen, etc).
I think speech recognition will be used much more once we start getting more travel-friendly displays (e.g. beaming a display into your eyes from a pair of glasses or nearby low-powered laser). How often have I been driving and thought, "If only I co
Outliner (Score:2, Interesting)
The hosting company carries its name well... (Score:3, Funny)
still in use (Score:3, Interesting)
Apple has a contract to supply Disney with them until 2010.
But they stole it! (Score:2)
Everybody knows the Newton was really the work of DEC [elook.org], who were the true innovators with their Leibnitz line of handhelds.
The Leibnitz never caught on, due to the unique marketing approach that was synonymous with Digital.
Mmmm (Score:2)
Say what you will... (Score:2)
Still using my Newton 120 to this day... (Score:3, Insightful)
I've used Palms and PocketPC's, but go back to the Newton for it's simple and elegant interface, which makes we actually want to use it, and keep my calendar and contacts up to date.
Although the HWR gets all the attention whenever someone writes about the Newton, the one aspect I would have loved to see advanced and developed was the Assist button. Tap on it, enter something like "Have lunch with Bob on Tuesday", and it will search your contact list, automatically create a meeting on Tuesday for you.
Why the Apple Newton Failed (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I no know (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Slashdot (Score:2)
Yet, still interesting enough to post a comment in. I wouldn't mind, but more comments means more apparent interest in these stories.
Re:Slashdot (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Had Newton and no Personal Computer (Score:3, Funny)
I'm not sure you're making such a good case for this book...
Re:uh oh... (Score:2)
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