Power Over Ethernet for AirPort Base Station 75
An anonymous user writes, "With Apple's recent announcements I took a quick stroll through some other items on the site and noticed that there's now a third AirPort Extreme Base Station. This model, at the same price as the model with modem and antenna ports, does not have a built-modem, however it does have an antenna port, supports Power Over Ethernet, and conforms to UL 2043. Great news for those that have wished they could put their Base Stations out of reach of a power outlet."
Re:$300!?! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:$300!?! (Score:5, Funny)
It's white! Just like the iPod!
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USB Printer Sharing Built in
A good antenna (optional external antenna hookup also)
One model has a built in modem with AOL Compatibility (the only one out there)
An application based admin interface both for Windows and Mac
Like I said.. they are still a bit expensive, but not as much as as it first appears. Much like most of Apple's products.
Re:$300!?! (Score:5, Informative)
It's the only one with AOL compatibility, I believe. If you care, which you probably don't, but someone might. Other advantages someone else lists below, like printer sharing, phone-home modem (so you can call your computer from the road (which others don't have, I don't think?)).
I have to admit, as much as an Apple fanboi as I am, I don't even have an Apple Base Station; I went for an Xsense router, since it gave me a 4 port switch for cheaper.
Re:$300!?! (Score:5, Informative)
Bridging is essential if you want Rendezvous to work properly between your wired and wireless machines.
Re:$300!?! (Score:3, Informative)
What the ABS can do that many of the cheaper access points can't do is bridging between two wireless access points. Still, you don't have have to spend $300 for that feature either, we boughts a c
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Here's a little picture of my network, the mini-hub is connected to one of the Netgear's 4 LAN ports. Yes, the mini-hub is usually extraneous, I could connect the NAT/DHCPd to the Netgear and the wired clients to the Netgear but sometimes I have more than 3 wired clients I like that I can remove the Netgear without disrupting anything except the wireless clients.
Re:$300!?! (Score:2)
It is one of the best WAPs you can get for the price. You can pick up a refurb of the $250 one for $200 at the Apple store.
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Bridging is essential if you want Rendezvous to work properly between your wired and wireless machines.
Woah, what? Rendezvous won't route, but it'll pass through a switch no problem. My linksys 802.11b AP+4port switch handles rendezvous just fine between wireless and the guys plugged into the switch.
Re:$300!?! (Score:1, Interesting)
the coolest is the fact that software to administrate the basestation, setting up keys, etc is built in OS X, the program to update the firmware is built into OS X and the base station shares the printer via rendezvous.. it's awesome compare to the generic Linksys AP
-joe
Re:$300!?! (Score:2, Informative)
It also has some unique features, which admittedly I don't use often, but: There is the ability for mult
Not $300 but $249 (Score:5, Informative)
Though you can still get a generic 54g basestation for less, they do not have the same performace or features:
Radius Server Compatibiliry
Excellent & Stable WPA implementation
Built-in 56k modem with Dial in Access
USB Print Server (with Rendezvous)
WPA Bridging (Best i've seen so far)
Roaming
Inteference Robustness (Frequency Hopping)
Antenna Output Power Control
I set up wireless system for a living and i even use the AE Basetations for my PC customers. Not only are the features are better, the IMPLEMENTATION is far more stable. Firmware Updates are so much easier to apply.
Also announced (Score:5, Interesting)
Also announced today was AirPort Management Tools 1.0 [apple.com], which provide powerful tools for planning, setting up, fine-tuning, and managing larger, enterprise-class wireless networks. Both of these announcements aren't targeted towards the home user; they don't do Power-over-Ethernet, nor have to manage lots of AirPort Base Stations.
With this plus the other things today, it sounds like Apple is starting to get serious about the Big Enterprise. WWDC could be really intersting.
The page is 404 (Score:2)
Re:The page is 404 (Score:2)
It's apparently been pulled, or is a screw up.
Re:Also announced (Score:1)
Last time they tried this was with the Quadra series, and the LaserWriters, and they didn't fare so well.
Businesses are interested in the cheapest solution available, not necessarily the best technology. That's why you see $150 machines instead of iMacs being used for workstations.
I'm waiting until... (Score:5, Funny)
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Tesla + Apple = Unstoppable Power!
while we're on the topic... (Score:2)
O/T: Necromancy (Score:3, Funny)
Re:while we're on the topic... (Score:2)
For 10BaseT and 100baseTX (and not GigE), 2 pairs of 4 are used for data. The specs for RJ45 Ethernet allowed for the other pair to be used by PHONES (1 or 2 pair, I suppose perhaps Lucent type digital phones might use 2 pair) without conflict.
Lots of places (eg. schools with wiring already run, cheap offices, etc) break out a cat5 to be 2 ethernets.
Cisco's spec allows for 48VDC (think "telco" and bank of batteries with that numb
Ethernet power rating (Score:3, Interesting)
Wow--I didn't even know power support was built in to the ethernet spec. Anyone know the power capacity of the spec and any related details?
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A number of Access Point manufacturers (Lucent, Symbol) are now offering Power over Ethernet add-on's for their Access Points. A PoE module inserts DC voltage into the unused wires in a standard ethernet cable (pairs 7-8 and 4-5) from: http://www.nycwireless.net/poe/
UL 2043? (Score:5, Funny)
SYSTEM ERROR #43: MOTHERBOARD ON FIRE.
No joke (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:No joke (Score:2)
site is here; [danamania.com]
His stuff is really very good on some of it.
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Re:UL 2043? (Score:5, Funny)
It means you can shove an airport base station into an air duct without violating safety codes.
From Ward's Wiki [c2.com]:Re:UL 2043? (Score:2)
Power over ethernet? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Power over ethernet? (Score:2, Funny)
Unfortunately, I now have unrealistically high expectations for the iPigeon.
External Antenna Port Worthwhile? (Score:3, Informative)
Has anyone else tried these external antennae, and if so, has it resulted in better or worse signal when above or below the base station, compared to using an AEBS with no external antenna connection?
Re:External Antenna Port Worthwhile? (Score:5, Informative)
I noticed that the Dr. Bott is more expensive than the lucent. To be honest, I think you will be disappointed to spend a hundred bucks and find only marginal improvement.
Re:External Antenna Port Worthwhile? (Score:2)
I noticed that the Dr. Bott is more expensive than the lucent. To be honest, I think you will be disappointed to spend a hundred bucks and find only marginal improvement.
Been there, done that. 5dB boost is about all you'll get out of most base stations. For me, the cheap boosters at radioshack worked as well as the $100 antenna i ordered.
POWER Over Ethernet (Score:4, Funny)
What could be useful... (Score:3, Interesting)
I notice that the USB port is disabled when using POE... which kind of got me thinking - there are more uses for a USB port than attaching printer... how about a model that allows you to connect a cable/DSL modem via USB (many of the modems given away only have USB connections).
why there isn't USB with PoE (Score:1)
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I highly doubt that the USB port isn't disabled because of flooding potential...5 volts @ 500mA max
802.11 (Score:4, Funny)
Re:802.11 (Score:2)
I'm waiting for... (Score:3, Funny)
-psy
Re:I'm waiting for... (Score:1, Funny)
But it will take some time, because at the moment were at 802.11g.
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Tesla would be turning in his grave...
-psy
:) Interesting (Score:1, Interesting)
Many people are trying to transmit data over power cables. However this PoE is reverse idea.
Intersting...
Which one would be better?
wow... Story copied word for word (Score:4, Informative)
Value of Airport Base Station (Score:4, Insightful)
Used it for a year and a half
sold it for $180 on ebay, bought a linksys for $60.
The linksys just sucks. Apple's hardware simply works way better. You get what you pay for.
Sticking with the linksys because I don't feel like laying down the cash for the ABS, but I should have just kept the Airport originally..
Re:Value of Airport Base Station (Score:3, Informative)
The airport base station must be *really* good. (Saying that proves I don't work for Linksys :-)
Re:Value of Airport Base Station (Score:4, Informative)
I would love to be able to spend the money on an apple airport base station, but *this* model Linksys works for me. I can see where an all-Mac home/shop or even a small, multi-platform environment might want to go with easy-to-manage Apple WLAN equipment, tho.
Now, the older, 802.11b AP's from Linksys were not worth the plastic case they came in, so if you're comparing the Apple equipment to those, Apple is definitely worth the price premium.
Re:Value of Airport Base Station (Score:2)
Same CPU as the airport.
picked up a 4801 and have 802.11g for THAT one (so freebsd). Boot from (readonly) CF, but put an old kinda iffy 12G laptop drive in it. Later on, I have to move a 160GB USB/Firewire drive so I can put THAT
Anyone know when apple will allow WDS with WPA (Score:3, Insightful)
Adrian
Re:Airport sounds cool, (Score:1)