High-Definition Video Add-on Coming to iPod

Rofy89 writes "In about five months, you'll be able to watch high-definition video on your iPod. New startup, ATO, will come out with a sleeve with a built-in LCD (liquid crystal display) screen that slips around Apple Computer's iPod — whether it's a video iPod or not — and turns it into a portable high-definition video player. The HD player will sell for between US$199 and US$250. The initial players will be able to handle MPEG 4, Divx, HD.264 and other video formats. The battery on the device will last about five hours."

Why attach it to an iPod?

This seems like a good product in its own right; why attach it to an iPod? I enjoy watching TV shows on my Palm Lifedrive and I do not need to attach it to an iPod to work!

From TFA

"Physically, the device is a sleeve. The iPod slips in the bottom, locks into a USB 2 connector, and effectively vanishes into the larger iSee."

This device uses the iPod as a generic external hard drive and nothing else. I was a little hopeful that you would be able to use the iPod's click wheel.

"Most people will use these devices to watch small clips, Scott said, and not the kind of studio fare that Apple is selling on its site."

So who wants to pay more money for a device that can only play "small clips?" Even in HD, this device is not worth it.

Interesting concept

Damn. Missed my first first post by seconds...
Will it play video off the drive? How will it get the video? If it has it's own drive, why does it need the iPod?

What is their definition of Hi-Def?

Re:Interesting concept

Now that I've read the comment (sorry) I'd like to answer my questions:
It does play video off a second partition-like thing, and through the dock connector. It doesn't have it's own drive.

Still, how do they define Hi-Def? Does Hi-Def really matter at such small resolutions?

I thought it was interesting that they are marketing it as a no-DRM device. I want to see how this works out, and will likely purchase one for my 4G, if it looks like it works...

How much more...

...useless crap can you fit on an iPod?

Re:How much more...

I'm waiting for the IPod two way camera phone with integrated PSP and 8 track casette attachment. Oh, almost forgot..it needs to have GPS tracking giving me directions via a sexy female voice.

Morning Commute

Should be great for the morning commute. I am tired of wasting all that time driving. Now I can enjoy a feature length film in HD on the way to work. I was getting tired of watching the road anyway.

Re:Morning Commute

Ok first off, here is another article on the subject with pictures! : http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-6098853.html?tag=n efd.top [com.com]

So it gives you more of an idea, yes it is HIGH DEF, but the screen is larger because the sleeve has it's own.

Here's how it looks inside so it gives you an idea : http://news.com.com/2300-1041_3-6099056-2.html?tag =ne.gall.pg [com.com]

Anyways I will let you guys debate over this some more to draw your own conclusions as to what this exactly is.

What?

Alright I've argued the point of videos being watchable on the ipod video (others don't think so beause of the small screen), but having hi-def on an ipod sized screen is like having a crappy video on an even smaller screen... Why wate money on hidef for a screen so small? Plus, hidef videos take up much more space than a low quality h.264 mpeg4 video, which.. on an ipod screen that is scratched up anyway, workds just fine for me.

Now, if this could be attatched to a bigscreen tv or something then I'll think different. But then why not just get a dvr?

Great! HD on a 3.6 inch LCD Screen

I don't see any benefit to being able to watch 1080i or 720p HD programming on a THREE and a HALF INCH screen.

I purchased one of the Video Ipods when they first came out, took the time to rip 10 or so of my favorite DVDs onto the device (finding the necessary software to do this and get it all working properly took days, not to mention the time to encode MPEG to H.264). After about two weeks I came to the realization that an Ipod for watching videos is pretty much useless for my taste.

How on earth is someone going to derive a benefit of HD programming on such as small device? When display devices are that tiny, there is no need for the additional resolution. Furthermore, you are giving up a tremendous amount of storage space for a really negligable benefit.

Great

An iPod condom, to prevent the DRM STD.
DSRTMD?
No. The iSleeve?

Yay!

When the monthly iPod updates stopped I started to get worried that Apple had run out of ideas. It's good to see that their back to their old tricks of updating the iPod at a ferorious pace...

fascinating Philosophical prblem here:

So if a device is physically hung onto an iPod, but with no electrical or wireless or telepathic connections, are you really watching HDTV "on" an iPod ?

The mind boggles.

Seriously?

You're putting a HD broadcast on a 4 inch screen because:
A) There's a vast improvment in the visual quality
or
B) There's DRM built into it.

Hmm, I'm thinking the answer is B.

Hope they get a larger screen...

I thought the iSee 360 was an interesting device when I first read an article about it. But the screen is really too small to watch anything more than short internet videos (or music videos, if they are still being produced & shown). I think I would be hard pressed to want to watch a 20 or 40 minute TV show on a 3.6" screen, and forget about a +1.5 hour movie.

Like I wrote - interesting product with good features. Just needs a +7" screen (& +6 hour battery) to make it a great player/accessory.

Great, but one question lingers...

Does it run Linux?

almost there.....

Now, instead of latching onto a ipod, if it could accept a simple USB2 connected portable drive, AND have video outputs to a TV....that might be something to get excited about.

Partition the hard drive?!

By partitioning the hard drive or memory, the iSee lets consumers store video clips not encoded with Apple's copyright-protection software.

Wait a minute. They partition the hard drive/memory to get around DRM? How about simply storing the files onto the already existing partition?

As far as I know, even the 5th generation iPod can play plain non-DRM MP4 and H264 files (within specs limits), so what's the deal with their unit? Are you telling me they can design such a device but not know that you can store plain regular files on the iPod's drive?!

what i want to see for the ipod is...

a simple and semi-portable box that you can output to a TV. i think that with itunes selling tv shows and stuff a box like that could put apple (and the microsoft equivalent) into the living room for good. maybe even produce a little competition to real cable. not much, just a little. the power company in my neighborhood is offering highspeed internet access and i am really looking for a way to dump cable TV for something IP based and more "on demand", so like my phone service, i pay for what i use per unit (2-3 cents per minute for phone service) instead of a higher flat monthly fee. the only problem is i have 2 kids that love cartoons and a wife that loves the daily show and the colbert report. it seems wasteful to pay for basic cable service to watch 4 channels for only a couple of hours a day. once that is accomplished, i just need to figure out how use the internet to get rid of my mobile phone and my car :-)

Impossible

Sorry, but there's no way you could you can physically watch HD quality video on a device like this. If I'm not mistaken, technology doesn't currently exist to make a 1280x720 or 1920x1080 screen small enough to work as an ipod sleeve. Sounds like just another marketing gimmick. I bet the screen is 640x480 at best, which is only Standard Definition. Don't believe everything you read.

but why?

This is much like an article about the underwater hockey association I read today.
It lures you in into reading it and for the rest of the day you are wondering...the concept is well and the end-result works...but why do we want this? WHY?
Is there really such a need for underwater hockey and $250 ipod dock/screens?

Don't invent something for the sake of inventing it.

Not Hi Def

From the product FAQ

Q. Is the quality of the picture out from the iSee 360i the same as standard television quality?

A. Yes because the iSee 360i out-to-TV is a standard 640 x 480 television resolution, the picture quality is not compromised.

http://www.isee-ato.com/Products/FAQ/Default.aspx [isee-ato.com]

What? No Shuffle version?

Blast!

Seriously, if they could do it with a nano...
But their chart shows that only the 2 and 4 gig nanos work, so 1 gig must be too little
Oddly, no 60 gig ipods are compatible.

What's the point?

Ok, I understand that right now you could sell shit, if it had shiny package and "iPod compatible" logo, but what's the point of this device?

From the /. story alone one can deduce, that this device will use iPod just as a portable HDD. Why not simply do away with iPod, and make a device that you can plug 2.5" ATA/SATA HDD into? I bet it would be cheaper and more power efficient. And you could have 160GB PVP, as opposed to iPod's maximum 60GB.

Robert

So it is a Video player without a hard-drive

.. as it seems the only thing it is actually using the iPod for is as a mass storage device. HD is obviously a marketing gimmick as the screen is too small to enjoy high resolution.

I don't think this product qualifies as "revolutionary", but then I'm not a marketing droid.

High def.

I love (NOT) the way that nearly all LCD and plasma products that claim to be HD compatable have a screen res. of 800x600 pixels or something.

A screen needs to be at least 1920*1080 in order to show all high-res formats. Anything less IS NOT HD.

New low?

C'mon, this article has been called bullshit even on digg!

HD.264? High definition on 3-inch screen?

One word.

Why? Good god, people. Not only do they not say how large the device (or even the screen) is, but why would you even need to play 1280x720 or 1920x1080 video on an iPod? At that screen size, 320x240 (iPod Video) is almost more than enough. Why HD? Why?

I know why. HD is the new hot tech buzzword. Idiots.

As long as we're smoking crack ...

The only way High-Def content on an iPod will ever be semi-usable / worth it:

An iPod that plays high-def video via a built in minerature DLP projector with a super efficient high-yeild LED lamp.

Point the iPod at a wall, and you've got a real portable big screen.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility. Of course, putting out that kind of light is gonna eat the battery.

Forget Ipods!

If you want to watch video on the move, you can't do much better than the Archos AV500. I've had the 60GB version for many months and it's been superb. You get a nice big 4" screen and a lot of storage space. I've also heard good things about the COWON A2. It's supposed to support more video formats than the Archos, but it does look a bit uglier. Initially I had a PSP, which has a great screen (a bit bigger than the Archos, better colour (I think) but poor viewing in sunlight) but unfortunately no hard drive, which is a shame. Still, a 1GB stick can hold a couple of films, but you will have to transcode (re-encode into a PSP compatible format) your videos. High resolution is pretty pointless on a small screen. Until there are some cheap video goggles that give you a cinema-sized screen, I wouldn't bother. If you think walking along listening to music is dangerous, I have perfected the art of walking along watching videos. I just hope I don't cross the road at the same time a driver who has perfected the art of watching TV and driving, comes along.

Am I the only one..

Who read this title as "High Definition Adds coming to iPod"

One of these things is not like the others

The initial players will be able to handle MPEG 4, Divx, HD.264 and other video formats.

DivX and H.264 are codecs. Both are MPEG-4 codecs. DivX is MPEG-4 ASP and H.264 is MPEG-4 AVC.

MPEG-4 is also a container, just like AVI. You don't say a player can play "AVI format"; you list which codecs it plays.

Sure you didn't mean for the last 5 months ?

See http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTool s/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1786714&CatId=193 [tigerdirect.com] They've had it for a while.

Re:Until Apple fixes their store's i18n...

there's no way I'm getting an iPod until Apple fixes their online store's engraving widget.

That's really the only thing preventing you from getting an iPod? Jeez dude.

Just buy a "blank" iPod and get aftermarket laser-engraving done. You'll be able to customize in ways far beyond what apple.com would allow you in ANY market.

Re:What???

Mac compatibility.