Apple Defeats RIAA and France In Same Day 311
gnat writes "The subheading of the CNN article says it all: 'Four largest record companies defeated in behind-the-scenes battle to charge different prices for songs; downloads still 99 cents'. This comes the same day as France backed down on the posturing over demanding iPod interoperability." From the France article: "Apple, which did not return repeated phone calls, and other DRM holders doing business in France, are likely elated. While the law must still be voted on, the alterations in the legislation signify willingness by some in the French government to honor the rights of companies that don't wish to share their technology with competitors. Senate debate on the bill begins Thursday."
France backs down? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why didn't the submitter go with the more trollish (and lets face it, the comments will decsend to this level in a few seconds) headline the inquirer took: French committee surrenders on DRM law [theinquirer.net]
Let's all remember that while we would normally blindly follow Apple's lead in this, it is a Free software issue [itnews.com.au] as well as being an Apple (yay) vs France (boo) issue.
Like Microsoft (with word documents, SMB, etc), or Adobe (with encrypted PDFs), Apple should not persecute F/OSS users for attempting to interoperate with their products.
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Re:France backs down? (Score:2, Interesting)
Interoperability with DRMed content is a Free Software issue. People want to be able to read Word files, Protected Adobe PDFs, watch DVDs, listen to WMAs or Fairplayed AAC, etc etc etc.
If their product became a monopoly.. then, maybe the specs for inter-operation to be dislosed. And unlike MS, Apple hasn't used any illegal means to obtain leading market share.
Saying they
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Consumer groups should be issuing warnings to the public about DRM systems.
We should be writing to consu
Re:France backs down? (Score:5, Insightful)
The real problem is that the RIAA, in all their infinite wisdom, is screwing themselves. They demanded DRM, and now its biting them in the ass. Without DRM, Apple wouldn't have the leverage to dictate the pricing on songs.
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I have burnt and re-encoded, and I can't tell the difference between my re-encoded MP3s and the original AAC. YMMV, of course. But to say "unacceptable" is definitely not true for me.
But, it is a PITA.
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I do, you presumably do, but not everyone does.
With MS Word, there's no choice, because of monopoly.
No choice? What about OO.org? What you mean is no choice if you have existing documents (the same as someone with an ITMS AAC collection who decides to convert to freeBSD)
Oh - and word was not the MS monopoly, Windows was.
If you want to buy movies, then you have to buy DVD.
Or a video. DVDs do not constitute a monopoly.
Protected PDF, WMA and Fai
Re:France backs down? (Score:2, Informative)
Tell me, is it just because you are a whiny open source-guy who cries "But I DON'T WANNA use .doc!" anytime someone isn't as hip as you?
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
--jeffk++
Re:France backs down? (Score:2, Informative)
Unless you use OpenOffice, NeoOffice/J, or to a lesser extent, TextEdit.
If you want to buy movies, then you have to buy DVD.
Unless you want the VHS copy (still available) or UMD.
You don't like iTunes? Go buy the CD.
Or buy the CD through iTunes for cheaper and burn the disc as MP3s (which iTunes allows)
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
Name one other legal music service that will work with iPod.
Name one other MP3 player that will play iTunes files besides the iPod.
If that isn't a "We've got you by the balls and you're going to buy FROM US OR NO ONE!" monopoly, then brother I've never seen one.
-Eric
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The question of course, is whether or not the courts will eventually see your personal itunes
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That would pretty much make every single contract in the history of contract law completely pointless. You're inventing "rights" and claiming they're so important that they trump contract law.
Should I complain if the lease on my apartment says my landlord can't use my bedroom to store livestock and he decides to keep pigs in my bed? Wouldn't
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
And I'm pretty sure I didn't invent the right to property. In fact, it's mentioned in the fifth amendment. A corporation telling limiting you in the use of your property should be the same as them trying to take it from yo
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I hate to admit it but I just bought an IPod so I could use Itunes for Podcasts.
I am not thrilled with the Itunes interface at all. I don't find it an easy way to organize my music.
The IPod's interface is the best I have used on any MP3 player.
Now if RIO would just open source all the info on my Karma... I would be a happy man.
It is a Free Software Issue. (Score:5, Insightful)
It is also a free market issue - unlike most other media formats and DRM schemes (CSS, HDMI, WMA) which can be licensed by any party under RAND terms, Fairplay is not available for license. This is helping Apple to create a monopoly, by sheltering it from competition due to legal restrictions, rather than basing it's success solely on the merit of the product (which is does have).
Lastly Microsoft didn't get to be a monopoly (in it's OS) through illegal means. Like all other OSes at the time, they lived and died with the system it was written for. The IBM PC had the advantages of people wanting to use the same machine as at work and later of low costs due to commoditization. The other PC's couldn't compete with this, and thus died. Microsoft rose to dominance because the IBM PC rose to dominance. Everything else (even their very real illegal acts) is noise.
Frankly, I have always thought our antitrust laws were pretty stupid. We give companies huge amount of anti-competitive powers through "IP", and practically unrestricted mergers, and then wait until they inevitably become monopolies (or oligopolies) to enforce a bunch of hollow antitrust laws that do little more than waist time in court. Why wait until someone is a monopoly to start caring about promoting a free competitive market?
Lastly, and most importantly, it is a consumers rights issue. If I have legally obtained documents, I will view them as I please - whether the person trying to restrict me from doing so is a monopoly or not is of no consequence.
</rant> (haven't had my cherios this morning
Re:It is a Free Software Issue. (Score:5, Interesting)
That is true, I can definately develop and use software to circumvent a copyright protection mechanism for interoperability reasons. However, the DCMA strictly prohibits me from distributing any such tools that enable circumvention even if I intend them merely for the exempted reasons. The jury is still out on whether that clause will stand, or more accurately in what specific circumstances that clause will hold up in court.
Even if distribution is allowed, the DCMA is not the only law that stands in the way. In particular, there are several patents on Fairplay standard, and without a license, it is not possible to write, distribute, and use this patented technology. There are exceptions that allow you to do some of those three some of the time, but never all three at the same time. For example, patent law does allow for implementation and distribution for educational purposes, but then anyone who used my software for non-educational purposes (even personal use) would run afoul of the law. This is the approach that LAME takes in it's license, which protects the developers but pushes liability onto the users.
I am legally prevented from writing, distributing or using Free Software that can play music encoded with Apple's Fairplay DRM.
To clarify I meant that "I can't do all these three", not "I can't do any of these three". There are three things that make Free Software Free - the freedom to modify, the freedom to distribute, and the freedom to use. If any one of these things are prohibited in a piece of software then it is not Free Software.
Nice troll. Try again. (Score:2)
Oh, wait, you can't. Because it's confidential and outside of a few leaks, has never been released. So really, you're just speculating.
Re:Nice troll. Try again. (Score:2, Insightful)
There's the speculation.
Neither you nor I has any idea what Apple Computer and Apple Records agreed to or not; even if they did agree to something like that, the whole disagreement could hinge on how they defined "music business" within the contract.
You're making it seem like it's somehow a cut-and-dried issue when in reality it almost certainly is not.
Re:France backs down? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not persecution... I don't think Steve has a taskforce specificaly to chase Linux users around with sticks (sorry the over use of that word gets to me).
If you choose to buy from ITMS you know exactly what you are getting, and while the argument that there should be Linux support for Apples products is valid that does not mean that everyone gets to whine about it... iPods play
I don't mean to be harsh but we are talking about a recreational item here it's not like iTunes music and iPods serve a vital purpose.
Re:France backs down? (Score:3, Informative)
It's not persecution... I don't think Steve has a taskforce specificaly to chase Linux users around with sticks (sorry the over use of that word gets to me).
Apple does not idly persecute F/OSS users, but your quote did not include the rest of my sentence:
Apple most certainly persecutes [macslash.org] F/OSS users who attempt to interoperate with their products.
If you choose to buy from ITMS you
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
Apple: Frown. "And next time, we'll scowl."
France: "Oh non ! We surrender to you, la Pomme."
News outlet headline: "French committee surrenders on DRM law"
Slashdot comment: "Apple shows France as the surrendering weasels that they are."
This'll never cease to be funny...
Xavier, French by birth and Apple (computers
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
Actually, the law in question ("Loi DAVSdI") is seriously lame, in that, trying to be all things to all people (IP-based corporations, consumers), it tries to do so in all the wrong places (forced interoperability, DMCA-like provisions).
Xavier
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Re:France backs down? (Score:4, Funny)
We are the silent minority. We have abducted the usual sensationalising
Please remain calm, change is sometimes good.
Thoughtcrime detected (Score:2, Funny)
++good, infact.
03 05 06 bb speech malreported slashdot rectify.
Re:The bigger they are the harder they fall (Score:4, Insightful)
For the record, I'm an Apple fanatic that pops wood whenever I see a Mac, and my butthole gets wet at every keynote.
What sort of monopoly are we talking about? A monopoly on music distribution? A monopoly on music players? In regards to Music distribution, Apple would need to wrest control of the content from the RIAA cartel. Certainly, Apple has helped destabilize the music cartel's control of music distribution, but those wheels were set into motion long before the iTunes Music Store (iTMS) by the original Napster and later filesharing technologies.
What's really going to kill the RIAA cartel is artists getting out from under their control. Apple has helped here to a degree, but the real empowerment to creators has, continues to, and will come from file sharing. I think that it's almost impossible for any one company to wrest control of the content from the content creators. If Apple is going to maintain it's dominance in paid online music distribution (or even if it's going to survive), it will need to accommodate the artists, not try to control them. If Apple, or anyone else, attempts to become the "new boss, same as the old boss", I have a feeling that many artists will just release their material as mp3s and accept that there will be a certain amount of unauthorized copying. That's if they strike out on their own and leave the RIAA fold.
If Apple is going to continue to thrive, they're going to have to partner with content creators, not own them.
As far as the iPod goes, I hope they will continue to dominate the market, but there is no guarantee and there is little chance that they will ever exercise a long term monopoly in this segment, despite their DRM lock in. The field is changing too fast, technology changes too fast. We haven't yet seen a true iPod killer, but that doesn't mean we won't. There's too much in play, too many nascent technologies, too many devices converging. (My best guess is that when we do see an iPod Killer, it's going to come out of left field, and no one will have seen it coming.)
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Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
apparently you don't keep pace with current events or popular culture. the notion of individualism and freedom are as outmoded as a 14.4 modem. face it, people want big government to provide for them. we've no love anymore for freedom and liberty. in fact, people will willingly trade the former for any semblance of security. look at a decision like Kelo. there is no such thing as privte property anymore.
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Re:France backs down? (Score:3, Insightful)
Again...I don't understand what vendor lock in is involved here. No one forces you to use the iTunes store with the iPod. You can easily put musical and video content on the thing from other sources. Got CD's? Rip them and listen to them. You do have a choice here...hardly a monopoly on what content you can play on an iPod, nor any other player available out there for that matter.
Plenty of source material out there for whatever pla
Re:France backs down? (Score:3, Insightful)
WHEW!! $400? That's quite a chunk of change. I just cannot see spending that much money on an inferior format (lossy) set of music. I'd much prefer to buy it in lossless format, rip it to a lower quality for my iPod or other portable...but, have the fullest version possible for home audio play.....and not
Re:France backs down? (Score:5, Interesting)
Most of the French-bashers on the right wing are aren't terribly interested in helping out the tired or the poor, and are more interested in turning the rest of us into huddled masses yearning to breathe free. I don't think they give much of a damn about the statue or the ideals it stood for.
Re:France backs down? (Score:3, Informative)
Why let facts get in the way of a good rant?
Apple has absolutely no restrictions on the number of times a song can be burned. What they restrict is the number of times a playlist which contains "protected" songs can be burned.
Can you honestly give a valid personal use reason why you would need to b
Re:France backs down? (Score:2, Insightful)
I believe the GP's point was that Apple changed the terms and conditions of what you could do with your music after the purchase was made.
But you're right of course - let's burn the heretic GP for his blasphemous anti-apple ways.
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
Read the EULA specifically clause 20.
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/legal/terms. html
How can one complain (not you but the GP) when one agreed to the very terms that Apples reserves the right to exert? If one doesn't like the terms, especially any right Apple (or any company) reserves, then go elsewhere. There are a myriad of options for obtaining music. Find a p
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/legal/terms [apple.com]. html
1) The average person does not have the time to read a 4000 line EULA every time they make a purchase.
2) The footer of that EULA reads: Last updated October 7, 2005, but makes no mention of what the updates were. Nice.
I'm far less encumbered now than I ever was. I can play my music in any car, hook up to any sound system, and stream music to other rooms. From my point of view, I'm better off than when I used CDs. By a
Re:France backs down? (Score:3, Interesting)
In this case, consumers' rights have been violated. Apple sold them a product and then sneaked into their computers and switched the product that they had sold them to one that is arguably inferior. That is wrong, and having a clause in a EUL
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Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
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The fact that I can burn it more than once through iTunes is simply an issue of convenience. By changing the number of times I can burn a CD, they are making the product they have sold me a less convenient product, and a different product.
So, why anyone would need to burn the songs to CD more than once is irrelevant. The question is, given that anyone c
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Re:France backs down? (Score:3, Interesting)
--jeffk++
Re:France backs down? (Score:4, Informative)
Trolling? I'll bite ..... (Score:4, Insightful)
Apple didn't have a choice. You either include DRM or the RIAA won't deal with you. If the RIAA won't deal with you then you don't have an online music store that's going to make any money.
Apple didn't change the "rules" about how you use your music. You can go to the store, buy a CD and do whatever the heck you want with it just like you always could. Now if you buy DRM'd music from Apple's online store then there are some rules in place, but they are among the must user friendly out there. You can share your music with other PC's on your home network. Granted there is a limit, but the average consumer doesn't have 5 PC's. If you make some kind of mistake and authorize too many PC's and can't deauthorize one or more of them for whatever reason then you do have the ability to reset your authorizations. You can burn the files to CD as many times as you want. There is a limit to the number of times you can burn a play list that contains DRM's music. I believe that limit is 10, but if you need to burn more than that the solution is pretty easy. Use another program to burn additional copies of the CD. Alternatively you could delete the play list and recreate it. DRM is a fact of life forced on Apple by the RIAA. If you don't like the rules, go buy the CD instead. Apple offers a service. You can get only the tracks you want, almost instantly, at $0.99 cents a track and in exchange for that service you agree to some rules. They don't force you to buy their music.
Apple didn't sue the students for posting rumors. Apple sued the student for knowingly soliciting and publishing trade secrets and profiting from it. Think Secret does sell advertising on it's website and does turn a profit. California is one of approximately 44 or 45 states that have adopted the Uniform Trade Secrets Act. That statute makes it wrongful to acquire or to publish without authorization information you know or have a reasonable basis to know is a trade secret. I don't agree with their tactics but to say that Apple simply sued a student for posting rumors is a vast oversimplification made for the purposes of furthering your argument.
A company acting in it's own self interest so it can turn a profit? Blasphemy! I know, let's do away with all private and public companies and let the central government plan everything to do away with this evil notion known as "profits". Oh wait, that's been tried several times and each and every time it's been tried it's failed, innocent people have died and human rights have been trampled on. Not that pure unregulated capitalism is any better, I'll take regulated capitalism with social safety nets in which companies and people are mostly free to ... gasp ... act in their own self interest and try and turn a profit and where consumers are free if they don't like a particular company to .... gasp ... not buy their products.
Re:France backs down? (Score:2, Insightful)
There are a couple of problems with your rant:
Apple spread DRM.
And they did it at the behest of the content owners. It was the difference between having an online store (and a way to move their music player hardware) and having nothing but a couple of crappy creative commons songs. And as soul-less as DRM restrictions may be, at least Apple pushed for one of the least restrictive DRM schemes available. To wit: their content does not expire after a certain number of days or a certain number of plays; it
Re:France backs down? (Score:4, Insightful)
The changes have not been terrible, however. FairPlay has been around for a few years now and this is the worst example you can come up with? The restriction is completely trivial to anyone's "personal use" of the music. Slight changes to a playlist resets the counter on the number of burns. Hell, add a "song" that has two seconds of silence and you've got a new playlist. It is just not worth complaining about. How many copies of a playlist do you need?
Moreover, you conventiently forget to mention that Fairplay was at the same time liberalized to allow a person to play their music purchased from the iTMS on five computers instead of three, something that is helpful for people who want their music at work and on multiple machines at home. It was a trade, in other words, that liberalized a restriction that people *did* face and tightened one that people rarely face. Evil Apple.
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
Because for the most part, I've neutered the Mac Fanboys with mod points.
Re:France backs down? (Score:2)
You are indeed right - I will drop Adobe from the list of companies (like Apple, Microsoft and Real) that actively discriminate against users of F/OSS software.
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The Breakdown & The Irony (Score:5, Insightful)
Being a bass player, I'm concerned about what's left over for the musician. Very concerned.
Weren't all the commercials and marketing schemes out there to make me feel guilty for the musician [nytimes.com] when I illegally share music? Perhaps they should have been showing me pictures of an executive in his Lexus
Re:The Breakdown & The Irony (Score:5, Insightful)
Copyright or other intellectual 'property' has never been for the artists and creators sake. The creators have merely been the excuse, once owning a printing press and being friendly with the crown was no longer considered reason enough to get a monopoly.
Remember, copyright was created to protect publishers from cheap books, not to ensure payment to creative talent.
Close, but not quite... (Score:5, Informative)
The earliest copyright-type of protection I know of is the Stationer's Log, which was used in England in Shakespeare's day, and it existed to protect publishers against other publishers. A publisher would buy a manuscript from a writer, and then register it in the Log, so that another publisher couldn't then publish their own version of it. The author had pretty much no rights whatsoever, but there was protections for the author in other ways. This was a time where most authors, poets, etc. were supported by wealthy patrons.
Around the time of the American Revolution there seems to be a change in the way copyright-style protections are being considered - the focus moves to the artist or creator, rather than the publisher. If you look at the American Constitution, there's a section that has the original version of this in the United States (I'm not sure how it manifests itself in Britain and Europe), and it's a limited span. This is very progressive for its day, as there's still patronage going on. The important thing in my mind is the recognition of the creator's rights to their work, something taken for granted in other industries.
Now, as time goes on and patronage disappears, the copyright span becomes longer, and this is logical, if you think about it. Without patronage, all that is left to support the artist is the artist's work. Controversy over copyright span after death aside, if you look at the Berne Convention just as a document outlining creator's rights, it really is quite logical and adaptive, and suitable to the here and now.
(Please note, I'm not talking about the DMCA here. The Berne Convention is quite old and fine-tuned, and it shows. It's a very elegant and logical document. The DMCA is brand new, trying to deal with new technologies that the legislators are still coming to grips with, and it shows too. Given time, I think it may develop into a very good piece of legislation that fits the technology, but it's not there yet by a long way.)
In my mind, the big problem right now isn't the creator's rights, but how they have been co-opted. It's not so big an issue in print publication, but look at who actually owns the rights to music and film. The film studios and record labels have basically co-opted the creator's rights by getting the artists to sign their rights away, and then exploiting those rights, cutting out the creators in the process. In many ways, it's a situation where what should be a just and fair system has been co-opted and abused beyond belief.
Re:Close, but not quite... (Score:2)
Re:The Breakdown & The Irony (Score:2)
While I agree with your sentiment, that these execs are not treating many of their musicians properly (though some do get treated really well) I wouldnt use "his diablo" as a way to make your point. My name is not Robin Hood and i cannot justify stealing from the rich because they are rich. Especially when I am not giving it to the poor.
Do I think the fa
Re:The Breakdown & The Irony (Score:2)
I hate to break it to you, but odds are very much against you for sitting in a studio for a couple of weeks and making a lifetime's worth of pay.
You have to a) be good, b) play live music, and c) be lucky.
There are _tons_ of musicians that play 60-100+ shows a year. Its a lot of work. And most of those do not "make it big".
As Jerry used to say, "Keep your day job, until your night job pays!".
Re:The Breakdown & The Irony (Score:2)
"I found that interesting. Executives that have nothing to do with the end product (probably haven't ever even picked up an instrument) are constantly arguing that they should be charging more and padding their pockets."
I work in the computer peripheral industry. I've never designed a mouse or a speaker -- I don't even have an EE -- but I set pricing for those products.
If you want to join a label run by artists, for artists, you can. There are tons of indie labels out there started by guys who've pu
Re:The Breakdown & The Irony (Score:2)
"They are providing a service: recording, distributing, marketing, providing legal services, etc. The end product is the music, and in many cases the label had just as much to do with the end product (and its distribution) as the artist did. Are the artists entitled to all of the profits derived from this product? If so, why?"
A sentiment I see a lot around here is "I can't believe record companies get all that money! They contribute nothing! That's right, nothing!"
In other words, for many Slashdotte
Apple continues to rip off the UK (Score:3, Interesting)
99 cents 79 pence
we should be paying 55p a track in the uk.
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Aside from the troll clichés and all... (Score:5, Insightful)
So, as much as I dislike DRM, I think theirs was just such a move.
Re:Aside from the troll clichés and all... (Score:2)
Re:Aside from the troll clichés and all... (Score:2)
Because NTSC stands for "never twice the same color", that's why.
Re:Aside from the troll clichés and all... (Score:2)
France pushing Protectionist standards ? (Score:2, Informative)
I suggest you to read the SECAM history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECAM [wikipedia.org]
SÉCAM development predates PAL.
So I am affraid your post was only "french-bashing" ! Yet and again...
And even if it was pushed for "national pride" reason, who can blame them ? I mean, read the story about Concorde at JFK or the A380 story about US airport beeing reluctant
Re:France pushing Protectionist standards ? (Score:2)
As someone who has relatives in Rockaway Beach, near the Kennedy approach, I can tell you from firsthand experience that the Concorde is Fucking Loud. It's not a big deal to tune out a few dozen passenger jets coming in over the course of a day (I lived for years right under the southeastern approach path to LaGuardia as well), but the Concorde makes (well, made) a sound like the end of the world is nigh. It didn't even compare.
False (Score:4, Informative)
Why SÉCAM in France?
Some have argued that the primary motivation for the development of SÉCAM in France was to protect French television equipment manufacturers. However, incompatibility had started with the earlier decision to uniquely adopt positive video modulation for French broadcast signals. In addition, SÉCAM development predates PAL. NTSC was considered undesirable in Europe because of its tint problem requiring an additional control, which SÉCAM and PAL solved.
Nonetheless, SÉCAM was partly developed for reasons of national pride. Henri de France's personal charisma and ambition may have been a contributing factor. PAL was developed by Telefunken, a German company, and in the post-war De Gaulle era there would have been much political resistance to dropping a French-developed system and adopting a German-developed one instead.
In other word, yes it was a questionof national pride, but no not against the US, more against the "north-east" neighbourgh which only 7 years before they had a war with... Not much to do with protectionism IMO. Would you , as an US ressident , have accepted the PAL standard ? Well apparently NO, sicne you use NTSC.
Re:Aside from the troll clichés and all... (Score:2)
Juste to correct you: the law makes an obligation to air at least 40% of songs with lyrics in French or any regional language practiced in France (breton, occitan, catalan, franco-provençal, alsacien, corse, etc.), with 50% of it dedicated to new talents. Stations can also opt for a few differe
Cool! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cool! (Score:2, Troll)
Re:Cool! (Score:2)
Burning to CD is also a lossless endeavor.
Apple=1 vs. Consumers=0 (Score:4, Interesting)
For a very good overview about the subject and a much better article than the one in the
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060501-671
"The legislation in question originally contained consumer-friendly provisions that would force technology companies to make their DRM schemes interoperable. This would have a potent effect on the dominance of Apple and iTunes, of course, since the Cupertino company has so far proved unwilling to license its Fairplay technology to anyone else. The non-interoperable nature of Fairplay has been crucial to the success of Apple's online music store, which has leveraged the popularity of the iPod to become the biggest seller of digital downloads on the Internet.
* Previously, "information needed for interoperability" covered "technical documentation and programming interfaces needed to obtain a copy in an open standard of the copyrighted work, along with its legal information." Now this has been changed to "technical documentation and programming interfaces needed to obtain a protected copy of a copyrighted work." But a "protected" version of the work can't be played back in a different player, which means interoperability won't be attained with this clause.
* Previously, the only condition for receiving information needed for interoperability was to meet the cost of logistics of delivering the information. Now, anyone wanting to build a player will have to take a license on "reasonable and non discriminatory conditions, and an appropriate fee." When using information attained under such a license, you will have to "respect the efficiency and integrity of the technical measure."
* DRM publishers can demand the retraction of publication of the source-code for interoperable, independent software, if it can prove that the source-code is "harmful to the security and the efficiency of the DRM."
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Re:only need one word (Score:2)
One good, one bad... (Score:2)
Franch law
Not everything that's good for APple is good for Apple's customers.
So to sum it up... (Score:4, Funny)
Add This Defeat to the Military History of France (Score:2, Funny)
Hundred Years War: Mostly lost, saved at last by a female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare - "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchmen."
Italian Wars: Lost. France becomes the first and only country ever to lose two wars when fighting Italians.
Wars of Religion: France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.
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Re:Add This Defeat to the Military History of Fran (Score:3, Interesting)
> French Revolution: Won, primarily due to the fact that the opponent was also French.
I actually found this line funny...but....hey, I'm french !
As a lover of ancient times, I will use this opportunity to greet our nice and friendly italian neighbours (that were a little abused in this topic), whose history I really admire (the roman republic/empire, it's 1000 years of history, it's impact on modern society).
I send greetings to so
Re:Add This Defeat to the Military History of Fran (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Add This Defeat to the Military History of Fran (Score:5, Insightful)
And if you've watched Stephen Colbert's recent White House press dinner speech, you'll note the only person in the room who had the balls to do that was a French descendant.
It's all sort of silly, anyway... Germans and French share the same common ancestry. The history of warfare in general is that everyone loses... look at the American wars throughout history. We lost most of them. Korea? Vietnam? Moghidishu? We didn't do jack in WW1 and in WW2 we entered the European theater late and fought against outnumbered Hitler Youth and reserve troops while the great bulk of German troops, especially the most veteran and well equipped divisions, were defeated by Russia.
Anyway, point being, it's fun to laugh at France, but maybe this is more of a story of how corporations exert political control than anything.
and don't forget (Score:3, Interesting)
War against Grenada - win
War against Panama - win
War against Somalia - we got "tired of the filthy country"
War against Taliban in Afghanistan - win (well, for at least the 25 percent or so of the country we control)
War against Germany/Italy/Japan - win, with the assistance of the french...
and so on
Now I'm mad!! (Score:2)
Digital Music News' - Resinkoff on Apple (Score:2, Informative)
Paul Resinkoff has a very good commentary on Apple's negotiations.
Snip:
Looking through the business lens of Apple, any other result would be foolish. Apple is ultra-protective of its consumer, and that approach has resulted in rich dividends. The major labels, on the other hand, have a highly contentious and acrimonious relationship with many music fans and artists. Sure, generalizations can be dangerous, though the characterizations are not too far o
You said bias ? (Score:2)
We are talking about proprietary formats here, remember ?
What is next ? "Apple's right to own software patents ?"
Plus, the French law has been changed in senate. It now no longer requires interoperability, which was the only GOOD thing this pack of law had (from a OSS point of view)
Why not? (Score:2)
To put it another way, Fairplay belongs to Apple, while the music you purchase belongs to you; the CD format belongs to Philips, while the music CD you purchase belongs to you.
misleading (Score:2, Insightful)
Geez, I never thought I'd see a misleading article attacking record labels on Sladshdot...............
Re:misleading (Score:2)
The savings in packaging and distribution costs (after bandwidth) for the record companies - which they pocketed rather than pass to the customer or the artist - amount to more than 4c on their own. That was the purpose of DRM: to allow the labels control to fix the prices when a free market would have forced them down as the savings of the mod
How is it profit? (Score:2)
How does this effect Microsoft? (Score:2)
Why the bill was diluted, and Apple's DRM benefits (Score:4, Insightful)
Secondly, Apple's use of DRM is helping the anti-DRM crusade. In a bit of DRM judo, Apple has basically hijacked music DRM from the industry that meant to controll it and is using that power to dictate exactly how the online music market is to be run. Eventually studios will wake up and realize that they would be fine selling music without DRM, and indeed it's the only way to break free of Apple's grip over distribution. Then we'll not need DRM anymore as studios just sell FLAC and MP3 online, what we all wanted in the first place. Also at that point you'll be able to use any player you like again and not just iPods (so extra pressure on teh labels to move to a DRM free model will eventually come from Microsoft).
So smile when Apple mentions FairPlay, 'cause they are the ones saving you from the REAL DRM world we might all have been living in without them.
Re:France surrenders? (Score:2)
Re:I'm getting sick of techies confusing the RIAA. (Score:2)
The RIAA is the cartel of Universal, Sony BMG, Warner and EMI. Apple negotiated with the cartel of Universal, Sony BMG, Warner and EMI. If Apple negotiated prices with the RIAA it would be too obvious that the record labels cooperate to fix their prices. Now it's just conicidence they sit in tha same room and talk to Apple at the same time.
Yes, Apple negotiated with the RIAA, not individual record labels.