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How to Podcast

Posted by michael on Tue Oct 05, 2004 05:47 PM
from the used-to-be-called-push dept.
ptorrone writes "Engadget shows how to get Podcasts on your iPod and for the DIY Radio enthusiast, how to make your own Podcasts using mostly free tools. What's a Podcast? To put it simply, a Podcast is an audio file, a MP3, most likely, in talk show format, along with a way to subscribe to the show and have it automatically delivered to your iPod or other music device."
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  • Unfortunate... (Score:1, Insightful)

    My first reaction is to wonder how much of this is illegal. It's almost certainly possible to record off of somebody else's podcast, and I doubt that person is tracking the dues they owe the RIAA and others for broadcasting.

    If people keep doing undesireable things, it's only going to lead to undesirable features being built into the iPos and iTunes. It's really only .001% that want to do something like this; why ruin it for everybody else?

    • Re:Unfortunate... by erick99 (Score:3) Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:03PM
    • Re:Unfortunate... by Breakfast Pants (Score:3) Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:03PM
    • Re:Unfortunate... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Wanderer2 (690578) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:13PM (#10445736)
      (http://www.flickr.com/photos/elwanderer/)
      My first reaction is to wonder how much of this is illegal.

      How could making copies of your own talk show and distributing them over the Net be illegal (except in places like China)? How could listening to someone else's be?

      Okay, maybe if your 'talk show' features long clips of copyrighted music... but that's not what the article discusses.

      If people keep doing undesireable things, it's only going to lead to undesirable features being built into the iPos and iTunes. It's really only .001% that want to do something like this; why ruin it for everybody else?

      1. Make sure you only use that iPod in the approved manner, citizen! 2. I'm not an expert in anyway, but did you just use a semi-colon in the proper manner? Pity that was the highlight of your post for me.

      Sorry for the jibes, but I think you've grabbed the wrong stick.

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      • semicolon by bodrell (Score:2) Wednesday October 06 2004, @11:29AM
    • Re:Unfortunate... by connorbd (Score:2) Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:16PM
    • Why would that be your 1st reaction? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by VidEdit (703021) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:20PM (#10445796)
      There are lots of interesting legal uses for this technology. Podcasting is another step forward in democratizing the media.

      There is no reason to assume that the "podcasts" are of music, and there is no more chance of piracy from podcasts than from the internet in general. Characterizing people doing podcasts as people "doing undesirable things" is a presumption based on facts not in evidence.

      The automatic presumption that computer audio files==piracy is a triumph of RIAA PR but not an actual fact.

      More of a danger to iPods and iTunes would be the INDCUCE act and dis-information from Steve Balmer, who implied that iPods with their ability to play un-DRM'dmp3s were the primary vector for pirated music. In fact, iPods, with the success of the iTunes Music store, are the primary success story for DRM, and Microsoft Windows powered PCs are the undeniable leaders in pirated file trading.
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  • broad-pod-casting! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pchan- (118053) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @05:51PM (#10445559)
    (Last Journal: Wednesday March 09 2005, @03:04AM)
    bah, that's nothing.
    how about modding an (automotive) fm modulator to increase the power output, hooking up an antenna to it, and using your mp3 player as your source? share some interesting radio with the cars parked around you in traffic. bonus points if you attach an led display to your rear window showing "now playing".
    • Re:broad-pod-casting! by BrynM (Score:2) Tuesday October 05 2004, @05:57PM
      • Re:broad-pod-casting! by pchan- (Score:3) Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:06PM
      • Re:broad-pod-casting! (Score:4, Interesting)

        by connorbd (151811) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:09PM (#10445708)
        (http://www.geocities...riangle/Station/2266)
        I think that's exactly what he had in mind, though I don't think it's a terribly practical idea on the FM band, simply because you can't broadcast to more than a couple of cars at a time. It would work a little better on AM (part 15 rules are much more lenient on the AM bands), but really there's a reason they don't do mobile broadcasting.

        Of course they don't make transmitters for AM, and it's illegal to mod something like an FM transmitter because of something called type-acceptance -- in other words, the FCC gives your "pocket radio station" implicit approval because it knows what the device is supposed to be capable of. If you mod it, it's no longer legal to use because it doesn't fit the profile that the FCC has on file. (Your mileage/kilometrage may vary outside the United States.) This is the same rule that makes it illegal to mod FRS or CB gear.
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    • Re:broad-pod-casting! by gl4ss (Score:2) Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:25PM
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  • All we need now... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Mike Rubits (818811) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @05:52PM (#10445569)
    ...are some decent shows to subscribe too! For some reason, I can't see The Scripting News catching on for the general populace.

    Awesome idea though, just shows all the cool things you can do with RSS. Here's hoping Apple's next MP3 player will support WiFi for Shoutcast streams.
  • Possible uses? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by MinusBlindfold (775913) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @05:53PM (#10445583)
    (Last Journal: Thursday August 05 2004, @05:29PM)
    Sports scores, weather, news reports, etc? Maybe a college professor can make his lecture available in this format?
  • Underground Talk Shows (Score:3, Informative)

    by radd0 (558899) <radman&acid,org> on Tuesday October 05 2004, @05:56PM (#10445611)
    (http://www.acid.org/radman/ | Last Journal: Tuesday June 22 2004, @02:44PM)
    This sounds like an excellent method to broadcast some of my favorite underground internet radio talk shows. :-)

    i.e.:

    The ARTS [acid.org]

    BinRev [binrev.com]

    Default Radio [defaultradio.com]

    Radio FreeK America [oldskoolphreak.com]

  • I tend to listen to the Daily Source Code [slashdot.org] each day. If only Adam would stop talking about Podcasting and actually put on some more interesting content.

    I'm really looking forward to some good stuff out of this. Remember, if you don't like what you're hearing, there's nothing stopping you from producing something yourself!

  • Phish Show Lot Jam DJ (Score:2, Interesting)

    by aLe-ph-1(sh) (813349) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:01PM (#10445653)
    (http://www.thinkstodamnmuch.tv/ | Last Journal: Thursday January 18 2007, @07:50AM)
    I had an idea quite similiar to one of the above posters during the last Phish show up in Coventry. I was thinking if you could up the wayyahe output on an iTrip or similiar device, and then have say 10 cars park around your central location, and turn up the volume, tuned in to your broadcast. This could be a much cheaper way of doing a DJ gig, without all the messy expense of renting and lugging generators, and such. Now if only I could scratch on the iPod...
  • Pod Jockeys (Score:5, Interesting)

    by G4from128k (686170) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:03PM (#10445668)
    Is the commentator/mixer on an iPod a PJ?
  • Nice timing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Bluelive (608914) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:03PM (#10445669)
    Finally got my bittorrent proxy working for a few of the audio blog feeds. http://blue.student.utwente.nl/jrss/blbtab.rss its not really usefull yet but i could use some help debugging.
  • Security Problems? Buffer overruns? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Discotechnica (699121) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:05PM (#10445680)
    Might this open up some security problems?

    iPodderX, which is basically a newsreader that reads RSS 2.0 feeds with enclosures, takes those enclosures and automatically downloads them in the background. If the file is an audio file, it then moves it to iTunes for download to your iPod, so with iPodderX you constantly have fresh content to listen to. iPodderX downloads any type of file, (even Torrents) so you can wake up in the morning with a fresh set of audio shows, video programs, or whatever else you've subscribed to.

    What if someone were to take advantage of these auto downloads and use them to send you infected files. Maybe there are problems in iTunes' coding that will allow buffer overruns like those found with JPGs [slashdot.org]?
  • For those who don't RTFA (Score:4, Informative)

    by phrenq (38736) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:06PM (#10445691)
    (http://distracto.net/)
    and start talking about FCC implications, this has nothing to do with broadcasting. It's a way to distribute radio show-type content TO an ipod, not from it. The distribution mechanism is nothing more interesting than downloading an mp3 specified in an rss feed.
  • by VidEdit (703021) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:10PM (#10445719)
    Ahh, finally a way to get cable access quality, home-brew radio talk shows delivered directly to my iPod! The world will be changed forever! No longer will I have to worry about listening to up-to-date news and information on my computer or via the radio, now I can listen to old news that has been automatically archived on my mp3 player. And best of all, I don't have to worry about listening to interesting podcasts from the NPR or the BBC because their aren't any.

    Don't misunderstand me, having my iPod loaded with mp3s via RSS is a cool idea, but the lack of DRM insures that the copyright and royalty-driven major media players will not be sending out RSS feeds anytime in the foreseeable future. So, podcasting seems destined to be a bit player.
  • How about RSS synching for iPod (Score:4, Insightful)

    by aardwolf204 (630780) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:22PM (#10445810)
    How about RSS synching for iPod [weblogsinc.com], or even better, RSS with text-to-speech generation synching.

    /me invisions listening to slashdot while jogging.

    PS: Do we like or hate engadget? I forget.
  • The Engadget howto (Score:2, Informative)

    by Ludoo (12304) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:38PM (#10445922)
    (http://www.asiatica.org/~ludo/)
    Describes with more details what others have found, see Hugo Schotman [hugoschotman.com] or podcasters.org [podcasters.org].
  • Bah.. (Score:1)

    by LanMan04 (790429) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @06:59PM (#10446107)
    (http://www.highbiasentertainment.com/)
    I know this idea of RSS 2.0 feeds with enclosures is great and all for getting non-live data, but I've found timed recording of live radio MUCH more useful (with content I want to listen to.

    On my Mac, I use RadioRecorder [macupdate.com], a free app that lets you schedule when you want a particular feed (in one of several formats) to be recorded. So I record NPR's Morning Edition from 5 to 6:30 am, and then listen to it on my 6:45 - 7:30 bus ride (shitty radio reception on pocket radio).

    I can listen to Car Talk from the weekend! I can listen to Talk of the Nation from yesterday! I can listen to the kick-ass Chicago class-rock station I like instead of crappy DC classic rock radio! It's all stuffed into iTunes automagically, no muss, no fuss. And best of all, good content.
    • Re:Bah.. by jshriverWVU (Score:1) Thursday October 07 2004, @02:45AM
      • Re:Bah.. by LanMan04 (Score:1) Thursday October 07 2004, @05:49AM
        • Re:Bah.. by jshriverWVU (Score:1) Thursday October 07 2004, @03:54PM
  • Tivo for radio. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Frappuccino (813206) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @07:14PM (#10446211)
    This is a good idea, although it seems that i've never come across a decent internet radio show. I'd love to download Howard Stern shows every morning to listen to throughout the day, but for that to happen this would need FM capability. There was something like that on slashdot a while ago, but it was ugly and not mac compatible. The truth is, I would pay Howard Stern a buck a day to "Tivo" his show onto my iPod. Good internet radio shows are pretty much nonexistant, but it's nice to know if I find a good one I can "tivo" it onto my ipod.
  • by Banner (17158) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @07:42PM (#10446421)
    (Last Journal: Friday October 13 2006, @05:34PM)
    A lot of people have MP3 players now. If someone was to go make a serious effort at encoding and selling talk shows and other 'talker' formats for people to listen to on them, you could probably make a lot of money.

    Think of all those language courses for example. If they didn't have to ship you all of those cassette's they'd save a fortune. Sell it all online, Web Sites make cheap store fronts after all.

    Everyone has been so focused on Music that they've been overlooking other applications.
  • by katpurz (721210) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @08:35PM (#10446784)
    " Podcast is an audio file, a MP3, most likely, in talk show format, " I pondered this sentence for a while before I realized he meant 'Talk Show in MP3 format'... hmm.. bizare wording
  • another engadget paid placement (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SethJohnson (112166) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @08:36PM (#10446785)
    (http://austinskatenotes.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday September 30, @12:27AM)


    For Christ's sake, will slashdot come clean on how much money they charge Engadget (WEBLOGS, INC. NETWORK [weblogsinc.com]) for these story placements? The submitter, Ptorrone, is the author of the article (Phillip Torrone), yet this is not disclosed in the slashdot post.

    Engadget is an infomercial site. It's not a blog. If you doubt the commercial relationship between slashdot and Engadget, check out how many submissions [slashdot.org] have been accepted from Ptorrone in the last 60 days. Also note that each of the accepted submissions are Engadget articles written by PhillipTorrone.
  • by jhabley (820077) on Thursday October 07 2004, @07:08PM (#10465852)
    CBC's technology reporter has posted his report on podcasting as a MP3 for people to download http://radio.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2004/10/7 /156725.html
  • Re:Why always the ipod? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by mabhatter654 (561290) on Tuesday October 05 2004, @07:38PM (#10446395)
    because the iPod is very hacker friendly!

    Apple went to all the work of building a cool palm-like OS into the thing. There's several books written about it. [kinda like TiVo] As long as the modders keep their fingers off the DRM [cause apple would get in trouble with the riaa] then all the apps and gadgets are cool with them.

    Most of the other music devices are just barely music devices... they play only exactly what the manufacturer decides to support in the drivers...and most of the manufactures seem to sabotage "modding" attempts.

    The iPod is like the palm pilot in the early 90's. Sure other people tried PDAs but palm was the first to nail it... same with iPod. The "next" thing would be video, but that'll be at least 3-5 years away. iPod is sitting pretty for a while.

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