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Gentoo Offers PPC LiveCDs 403

Posted by timothy from the ask-and-receive dept.
drunkentiger writes "Ripped right off their homepage: In a recent Slashdot article, someone asked if it were possible to create a fully-featured bootable Linux LiveCD for the Macintosh. We thought this was a great idea. So today, we are releasing two full-featured LiveCDs for the PowerPC: one with KDE 3, and another with GNOME 2. Take a look at the KDE LiveCD running MacOS X in a window via Mac on Linux. LiveCDs can be downloaded here or from these mirrors."
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  • This has been postet a lot of times, but still... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:14PM (#6106831)
    Official Gentoo-Linux-Zealot translator-o-matic

    Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features. Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes and leprotards who absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...

    "Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
    "Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."

    "Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
    "Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."

    "I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
    "Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."

    "Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo."
    "I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and .debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."

    "...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
    "...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."

    "You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..."
    "I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH .rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)."

    "All the other distros are soooo out of date."
    "Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."

    "Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
    "OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"

    -


    • Re:This has been postet a lot of times, but still. (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      "OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future"

      The United States Air Force and a Major Air Force contractor are preparing to use Gentoo, even without the "proper support and QA in place."

    • Dependency? (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Real men use rpm -i --force, you insensitive clod.
    • I completely understand that this is a joke, but in fair defense directed towards the folks who don't know any different:

      1) Many new Gentoo users take up to a week to install it for the first time. That said, many of the kernel sources Gentoo offers (such as Red Hat sources) are patched to the point that ramming your CPU to 100% doesn't slow your box down. The only thing that can make my system lag is heavy disk/swap access.

      2) In regards to testing packages, Red Hat, Debian, etc. have been proven to be

      • One Minor Correction (Score:3, Informative)

        by FreeUser ( 11483 )
        In short, if you're a geek, don't mind a few days downtime for installation and can deal with hand configuring your box, you might give Gentoo a try.

        Just a minor point. No downtime is required whatsoever if you have a second set of partitions handy (and with the size of today's hard drives, there really isn't any excuse for not creating a second set of / and /boot partitions to allow multiple, independent installs and provide easy failback if an upgrade goes awry).

        Simply install your filesystem(s) of ch

    • I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH .rpms together on the command line

      Yes, that's me. But at least I know how to find useful Linux tips by including stupid as a search term!

    • Really, I think that's true for most people on Slashdot in general. I myself always WANTED a 'cleaner' source-based distro without the hangups of Debian, and Gentoo provides it. It's very possible to achieve a stable and fast system with Gentoo, you just have to be moderate with your make.conf settings.

      I think the BEST thing about gentoo is the installation process. I finally learned how daemons get started, how to set up networking and NFS. All these things were either hidden from me behind GUI utilities

      • Re:Very funny, not very fair. (Score:4, Interesting)

        by xtrucial ( 674445 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @03:10PM (#6107945)
        I don't have much to add, but... right on! I agree. While my Gentoo install was difficult, and I still have trouble (trying to get NTP running), I end up learning *a lot* about Linux/UNIX. And that's part of the process, isn't it? I mean, if I wanted something that "just works", I'd run OS X or whatever. But the thing is, I'm a geek, so I enjoy tinkering and understanding *how* computer stuff works; I'm not satisfied just knowing that it *does* work. Of course, all of this has practical application too: getting compensated in the work world for one's expert knowledge.
      • Basically your someone who actually wants to learn everything about how your particular distro works. This isn't applying to more and more linux users and certainly doesn't apply to the vast majority of Windows users.

        Distros like Gentoo are a throwback and really are more useful as learning tools as opposed to useful OS's for normal people.

        I of course have nothing against something like Gentoo let alone Slackware or Debian, but truthfully their way of doing things isn't the future of modern computing.

        The

        • Re:I think you should have prefaced your post (Score:4, Insightful)

          by MarcQuadra ( 129430 ) * on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @03:52PM (#6108400)
          I agree about the future of computing, but I think every neighborhood / office /building /small business will want someone who knows the technology inside-and-out to implement it on a large scale.

          Sure, compiling the kernel isn't something Joe User wants to do, but if Joe User want to sit down and work, someone in the company's job is to make sure his PC is getting decent performance. The boss isn't going to want to buy new servers and PCs when there's plenty of life to squeeze out of what's already there, those days are (almost) over.

          I don't want everyone to start adminning gentoo boxes, I'll admin boxes for them for some loot. That's my niche. The users will be running Gentoo, but they'll never have to look at GCC output or think about syncing the portage tree.

          Also, your idea that Operating Systems are going to get simpler is just not feasable. They'll get easier to USE but the tradeoff is that under-the-hood they'll be that much more complex. All technology is like that, a modern car is a very complex machine; sure, automatic transmission is easy to use, but it's a LOT more complex to design, fix, or diagnose than the old manual trannies. Windows XP is (arguably) easier to USE than w98, but it's really an order of magnitude more complex beneath the presentation.
        • Basically your someone who actually wants to learn everything about how your particular distro works.

          Be thankful, if there werent people like this you wouldn't have heating, lighting, medical science or anything else more advanced than charred meat and possibly the wheel.

          The future of computing is thankfully not having to worry about compiling kernels and screwing with drivers.

          Why not, for the people that want it? Personally I wouldn't trust it if I didn't have at least a basic understanding of how
    • ""Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."

      Sysintall is weird if you come from a gui oriented world. Also its strange to keep hitting esc to go thru all the different stages no matter which stage you already completed.

      That said, its a wonderfull tool that is not hard to use at all. It just has a different way of doing thing
    • Why is it that when a Microsoftie says something like this it's "Offtopic," "Troll" and "Overrated" but this gets "Funny"?

      But in other news, Gentoo can't help it that it's just the superior Linux distro. Really. So stop picking on it and pick it up!

      Gentoo and Slack--it's all you need.
    • AC, please enter following command:

      pkg_add RemoveHeadFromRectum.tgz

  • Requirements? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mrseigen ( 518390 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:16PM (#6106845) Homepage Journal
    I'm assuming I can boot this on my older PCI Mac (PowerWave 604/120, old mac clone). Does anyone know differently?

  • Finally I can use the Lab MACs (Score:5, Funny)

    by rkz ( 667993 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:17PM (#6106853) Homepage Journal
    This is great! When the Lab runs out of normal PC's theres always a few Macs left and now with my shiny Linux PPC cd I can use these heaten machines without cringing at MacOS 9 and actually have some decent apps.
    • NetBSD's run on macppc for a long, long, long time.
    • make sure that there are no rules against doing something like that. Many lab machines are locked down to only allow a certain range of applications and storage points.

      This could be considered circumventing those security features and could get you in quite a bit of hot water.

      • Re:Finally I can use the Lab MACs (Score:5, Funny)

        by rkz ( 667993 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:27PM (#6106938) Homepage Journal
        There is a clause about tampering with software but as soon as I take the CD out everything should be as it should be! Those pasty students who work on the helpdesk don't say anything to me because I give them porn DIVX's.
    • Dude, if you're going to be spending any time at all at the Mac labs at your school, you should learn now that the computers are Macs, and not MACs!

      Calling Macs "MACs" is the surest way to get a wedgie from the Mac faithful...

    • I didn't know you could run anything on a MAC. I thought they were just alphanumeric strings used as hardware addresses.

      (note: It's a joke, I'm using an iBook and am currently downloading one of these images from a less slashdotted mirror. Though they are doing pretty well considering the oregon state server just had some hardware issues.)

  • Because OSX boot disks can be a pain. (Score:5, Informative)

    by japhmi ( 225606 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:19PM (#6106866)
    This is great, because making an OSX boot disk can be a pain in the arse. I could use this to run a program like Radmind [radmind.org] to image a mac from a CD. With Unix(tm) tools able to run cross-platform, I can use Linux as a repair cd.

    Very happy.

  • Gentoo LiveCD? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Ed Avis ( 5917 ) <ed@membled.com> on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:21PM (#6106883) Homepage
    I'm confused. Does this mean you stick the CD into your computer, it makes a huge RAM disk, copies in the source code, compiles it all, and two weeks later you have a system ready to use right away?

  • Apple vs PC - Without the Flame War (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Davak ( 526912 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:22PM (#6106889) Homepage
    I have heard the Apple vs PC discussion a lot; however, recently a *nix friend of mine was asking me if the apple or PC hardware was better for a new *nix installation.

    I don't know... so now I ask you...

    Which hardware would you rather buy for a new home linux system?

    Thanks in advance...

    Davak

    • Re:Apple vs PC - Without the Flame War (Score:5, Insightful)

      by plastik55 ( 218435 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:28PM (#6106959) Homepage

      Which hardware would you rather buy for a new home linux system?


      x86 hardware for a desktop, Apple for a laptop.

      • I really don't see any benefit to an Apple Laptop... Though I could be wrong. One HUGE advantage may be out of the gate hardware support. I would love to get my Inspiron 8100 to have all the battery monitoring and such working. I have got it working (with no work) on Redhat 7.1. But I need to look into it for Gentoo.

        • Re:Apple vs PC - Without the Flame War (Score:4, Insightful)

          by plastik55 ( 218435 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @02:01PM (#6107248) Homepage
          All in all the Apple laptops are very well supported for linux--builtin Airport, power management, sleep and wake, video and sound chipsets, and USB/Firewire. The only thing I don't have working on my old iBook is the NTSC video output which I don't really have a use for. The build quality is superior to most Dells and the battery life is typically much better. Most of the people working with Linux on PowerPC are running Apple laptops, so the hardware tends to be very well supported by the community.

        • Re:Apple vs PC - Without the Flame War (Score:5, Insightful)

          by be-fan ( 61476 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @02:15PM (#6107357)
          Heh. A guy with an Inspiron should be the first person to understand the benifets of an Apple laptop:

          1) Small
          2) Light
          3) Power efficient
          4) Cool (as in not burning hot)
          5) Well built.

          All things that the Inspiron most definately isn't. Of course, I love my I8200 dearly, because of its capabilities as a portable workstation, but if I didn't need the power (and Apple would get with the '00s and finally start bundling those gorgeous UXGA screens :), I would definately get a machine that didn't need dual 8000 RPM fans just to keep the temperature at "mildy scalding."

    • Re:Apple vs PC - Without the Flame War (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:30PM (#6106982)
      Uhm, well I'm going to answer this in two ways:

      First, if your friend is just into *nix, then OSX is an option, without any Linux whatsoever.

      Second, there is no reason whatsoever to pay the prices on Apple's hardware unless you plan on using Apple's software. Which isn't to say it's not worth paying for Apple's hardware, it just seems to be a strange choice, paying extra for a software/hardware bundle and not using the software.

      So, in summary:

      Get a clone if you want a cheap Linux box (do hardware research FIRST mind you).

      Get a Mac if you want the best consumer Unix currently available and installing Linux is just an added bonus.

    • Re:Apple vs PC - Without the Flame War (Score:5, Informative)

      by Arker ( 91948 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:49PM (#6107151) Homepage

      Someone else already said x86 for desktop, ppc for laptop, and I basically agree.

      The downside to the ppc on desktop is price/performance. It's not a huge gap. But you definately get more flops per buck on the x86 market.

      PPC is really a much better designed architecture, however. One of the main practical benefits is a cooler running system using less power. Very important points on a laptop. Not insignificant on a desktop either, but not nearly as important there.

      Apple laptops are really nice. Whether running OSX or Linux. For a portable workstation I wouldn't go any other way.

    • Just dont think your clever and will install Linux on your brother-in-laws NuBus PowerPC assuming that it would be as simple as slip in the Debian boot floppy and move on from there, like *cough* my friend did :.(

    • Which hardware would you rather buy for a new home linux system?

      OK, lets start by saying I don't honestly know the answer to this because the last Mac I actually did anything serious with came with 128Kb (yes, that's a 'K') of memory (although it was later upgraded to 512Kb and that's still a 'K').

      However it's my perception that apple hardware is on the whole substantially better build quality than equivalent generic PC boxes. Also, of course, architecturally they're much nicer. But you pay a ver

  • I'm glad to see this happen! (Score:5, Funny)

    by carl67lp ( 465321 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:22PM (#6106894) Journal
    When my girlfriend bought an iBook, I begged her to let me put Gentoo on it. She wasn't keen on that at all, enjoying the Mac OS X interface just fine, thank you.

    Now I'm finally able to run Gentoo on her system without screwing anything up. This should prove to be a lot of fun:

    "Look, babe, I put Gentoo on your computer!"

    "WHAT?!? Where are my Sims?!?"

    "Um...woops?"

    I'm evil.

    Honestly, though, this is going to be great for a lot of developers. Now we can take a couple of Gentoo LiveCDs around with us and boot nearly any personal computer up with our favorite distribution.

    I work for Gentoo, but I'm also honestly hooked on it. And I'm no zealot either--I know its limitations and I know its strengths. But the release of a PPC LiveCD can do nothing but help the overall Linux effort, including Gentoo, and will undoubtedly be a boon for all of OSS.

    Seriously!
  • sure would make me happy.

  • So much for Yellow Dog (Score:4, Interesting)

    by corebreech ( 469871 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:23PM (#6106909) Journal
    SuSE had a decent PPC distribution too. This seems like such a no-brainer... probably the only way you could expect widespread adoption from the Mac crowd.

  • Why Gentoo? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Ost99 ( 101831 ) *
    LiveCDs are cool. I'm use Knoppix all the time (Linux bliss in the computer lab, finally).
    But what is the logic behind using a source-based distribution for a LiveCD?

    I don't have anything against Gentoo, but fail to see *why* Gentoo...
    Is PPC support better with Gentoo? Or are the Gentoo guys just the first ones to do this for PPCs?

    - Ost

    • Re:Why Gentoo? (Score:5, Informative)

      by FreeUser ( 11483 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:59PM (#6107236)
      LiveCDs are cool. I'm use Knoppix all the time (Linux bliss in the computer lab, finally).
      But what is the logic behind using a source-based distribution for a LiveCD?

      I don't have anything against Gentoo, but fail to see *why* Gentoo...
      Is PPC support better with Gentoo? Or are the Gentoo guys just the first ones to do this for PPCs?

      First, Gentoo is much more than a source based distro.

      1) portage is arguably the best package manager known to man. It exceeds IMHO apt-get, which is perhaps the second (or maybe third, depending on one's POV) finest package manager. Having easy access to portage from a live CD is fantastic for those who want to go the next step and actually install Gentoo, or rescue an existing Gentoo system.

      2) Being a source based distro means one can optimize one's build to their own hardware. Taken a step further, one could optimize a Gentoo LiveCD for their hardware (PPC, Athlon v. Intel, etc.)

      3) Source based v. Binary based is, for purposes of RUNNING the LiveCD, completely orthogonal, as the LiveCD itself contains all binaries. So, the best answer to your question as to why is "why not?"

      While the tools available to Gentooers allow for more optimization out of the box than, say, Debian by default (yes, you can build debian from source with apt-get, but as one who as done so I can say it is quite painful), to those running the LiveCD the only affect will be a faster, snappier LiveCD, assuming they have downloaded an ISO optimized for their architecture.

      For those of us running Gentoo it is a godsend ... we get all the benefits of being able to give away live CDs to our less computer-literate friends with our favorite distro, but most importantly, we can use the disks ourselves to install Gentoo, upgrade, or rescue it, and all the utilities present are familiar and located in familiar places (something not always true with a liveCd from another distro). Of course, this works both ways if one prefers Debian, Mandrake, or what have you.

  • Get a hold of these guys (Score:5, Funny)

    by ferratus ( 244145 ) * on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:24PM (#6106914) Homepage
    We finally found people who ACTUALLY do RTFA -- *and* the comments.

    They should be considered role model for this place or something.

    Fear them.

    • Re:Get a hold of these guys (Score:5, Interesting)

      by carl67lp ( 465321 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:28PM (#6106955) Journal
      I'm a documentation editor for Gentoo, and I know first-hand that many, if not all, of the developers scour the Web (well, their favorite sites, like Slashdot, anyhow) and report back any news about Gentoo in the press. They gladly take the bad news with the good--using the bad, as in this case (the former lack of a PPC LiveCD) to retool things, add new features, and generally make people happier.

      A lot of people scoff at the Gentoo fanatacism--including the developers--but at least, in this case, I think a lot of that is warranted. Perhaps not all of it, mind you, but definitely a lot. I think we're a good bunch of guys and gals.
      • I don't push any distro... but certainly by far my favorite is gentoo. Not really for major optimized performance, but more for it's package management and great community information distribution. I have stopped using goggle and moved to gentoo forums for almost any linux related query.

        Currently any system that I use regularly runs gentoo.
      • So.. um.. you guys have chicks there? I might have to change distros if Gentoo gets chicks.
      • I'd like to add to this - there's been a recent thread on gentoo-dev on the subject of portage (the Gentoo package manager) under OS X. Currently, it doesn't work. It's about to. Summary of events:

        8:02 P.M.: E-mail from user with details on how he tried to compile portage and was hung up on a few issues.

        9:25 P.M.: Head developer replies and says he'll do the port.

        5:07 P.M. the next day: Head developer updates his status to "should be done today."

        That kind of response, interest, and feedback really ma

  • Gentoo on PPC is really snappy! (Score:5, Informative)

    by MarcQuadra ( 129430 ) * on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:26PM (#6106934)
    I've been running Gentoo-1.4 release candidates on my G3 server for almost a year now, I can tell you, Gentoo and PPC are an awesome combination.

    The PowerPC architecture is amazingly snappy and responsive, even though my box only has a 450MHz CPU. I get the feeling that the PPC arch is a lot less 'laggy' than the x86, just a vague feeling, but it's quite nice. Compiling my whole distro with "-mcpu=750" and a few other options has made my old box into quite a workhorse. Anyone else want to share PPC/Linux experiences?
    • I've been running MS-DOS 6.2 on my Pentium 3 server for almost a year now, I can tell you, DOS and P3 are an awesome combination.

      Not only do my DOS games run so fast that I sometimes drop into seizures, but loading Windows 3.1 only takes a few minutes! Running Works while defragging my hard drive has made my old box into quite a workhorse. Anyone else want to share P3/DOS experiences?

      • I've been running MS-DOS 6.2 on my Pentium 3 server for almost a year now, I can tell you, DOS and P3 are an awesome combination.

        Hey, that's nothing! I've got a binary patch to MS-DOS 3.2 to enable hyperthreading on P4 Xeons that's just awesome.

      • Actually, I have a running dos6.22/win3.11 combo on my PIII 'just for fun' it is pretty snappy. I can't seem to get it to run SAMBA, NFSD, routed, or mount anything bigger than a 2GB partition. Maybe I should call M$ tech support.
    • I have been using gentoo 1.4rcX on my iBook for nearly a year now as well. It has been far and away my best experience in using Linux on the desktop, and I am slowly but surely turning into one of those freaky Gentoo zealots... Every machine that I run linux on (at home or work) are *slowly* getting Gentoo installed on them, but distcc is helping... ;)
      • I find the same thing happening to myself. I started with Gentoo on the G3 as a server, then I decided to ditch W2K on my workstation (for gentoo) and just run win98se on a Via EPIA when I needed MS Office (for work). Now I've got gentoo running on server, workstation, my laptop, the EPIA (got citrix ICA to do windoze stuff directly on the server at work). Next week I'm installing Gentoo on the girlfriend's machine (she's running Mandrake 9.0 now, and it's starting to turn into a twisted mess of RPM hell).

  • Watch out for certain mirrors (Score:4, Informative)

    by carl67lp ( 465321 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:34PM (#6107021) Journal
    As I look for a fast mirror to download from, I see that many of the mirrors have not been updated yet. In addition, some of them do not seem to have complete files (4.7M for an ISO is a bit small, don't you think?).

    Look around and see what you can find. Also, you'll want to look in /releases/ppc/livecd/1.4_rc7 for the files.

    • There are links for the PPC live CDs up on LinuxISO.org [linuxiso.org] (at the bottom of the page). Clicking the icon of a disc superimposed on a folder will yield a list of mirrors (only three or four so far), clicking the download link will select one of the mirrors at random. One of the mirrors for Gentoo is iBiblio, which isn't always the speediest mirror to download from but is certainly one of the more reliable mirrors around.

  • Gentoo icon (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sdibb ( 630075 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:37PM (#6107047)
    When are we gonna see a Gentoo icon for Slashdot, like the other Linux distros have?

  • Distribution.... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by fade ( 4063 )
    This is a great idea. I was thinking of porting knoppix to the ppc for some time while my life dispatched the regular inerrupt requestors... and in the meantime somebody delivered pretty much exactly what I wanted. =)

    those mirrors are getting slaughtered... would somebody (gentoo? gatech?) put up a bittorrent tracker for those iso's?

  • Linux boot problems on Macs. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BrookHarty ( 9119 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:51PM (#6107169) Journal
    I tried playing around with yellow dog, but sometimes it would mess with my boot sequence, and I couldnt boot into OSX native mode.

    This would be great, you dont have to touch the mac's boot sectors.

  • For those with oldworld macs (Score:3, Informative)

    by jbardell ( 677791 ) <jbardell86@noSpam.yahoo.com> on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @01:58PM (#6107225)
    I dunno if this will work for the LiveCD, but if you have an oldworld mac, and don't have a macos install/hfs partition, check this out: http://www.mfdh.ca/~mfdh/apple/debian_on_oldworld_ mac.html please don't /. it to death :) Perhaps someone has mirroring abilities?
  • into trying Linux, of course! She uses a blue/white Mac G3 400 with 256 megs of RAM and OS X 10.1. Doing anything on that computer feels incredibly slow, even after switching to the peppy (Mozilla based) Camino browser.

    Has anyone tried this Gentoo liveCD on a similar Mac yet?

  • Torrent files (Score:5, Informative)

    by MentlFlos ( 7345 ) * on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @02:03PM (#6107259)
    Ok... yeah its karma whoring but here are the torrent files.

    Gnome Flavor [rit.edu]
    KDE Flavor [rit.edu]

  • Live CDs on CD-RW (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Is it possible to store a live CD (Knoppix/Gnoppix/Gentoo) on a CD-RW instead of a CD-R, and modify the distribution so that the CD-RW is mounted in R/W mode, allowing you to have some files that are persistent between sessions?

    • Re:Live CDs on CD-RW (Score:3, Informative)

      by damiam ( 409504 )
      There is no such thing as a RW mode for CD-RWs. They can be written and blanked only. They cannot be used like a regular hard disk, unless you want to delve into proprietary systems like DirectCD, InCD, etc., none of which work under Linux.

  • Needed: Knoppix PPC (Score:3, Insightful)

    by MsGeek ( 162936 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @02:18PM (#6107386) Homepage Journal
    This would be such a boon...way more important than Gentoo PPC Live.
  • I have a .torrent set up for the KDE version of the Gentoo Live CD here [128.2.121.243] (host is fnord.andrew.cmu.edu. Used IP to avoid DNS slashdotting).

    The md5 checks out, but I haven't yet burned it or tested it.

  • I downloaded the Gnome iso, burned it and booted. Here are my results on a dual 800 G4 (Quicksilver):

    First boot I selected the "live" option, but unfortunately it did something screwy with my video. Nothing was readable, though I could tell it was loading.

    Second boot I did the live-safe option. This gave me a usable command line, to which I logged in, tried the xeasyconf option, and tried to startx, but got an error. Went through a few more times with different video options (it was giving some sort of vi
  • Mac-on-linux looks cool and I'm keen to try it out, but is there anything that does the other way. i.e. Running Linux in a window on my Mac?

    I'm an old hand with Linux on x86 architectures and I'm familiar with the likes of Gentoo, Knoppix and user mode Linux, but my Mac has to run OS X first and foremost which is why I thought I'd ask.

    If I could fire up UML or Yellowdog in a window it would make it considerably easier to run some esoteric Unix app (even with a performance penalty) rather than struggling

  • Question: does a bootable cd, like this one or knoppix, mean it's either more difficult or impossible for remote hackers to get a root kit into the system?

  • Forgot to mention. Wolfenstien Gentoo CD. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by TheWezzel ( 669094 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2003 @03:15PM (#6107992)
    I'm amazed that Gentoo Games [gentoogames.com] was not mentioned they released Wolfenstien and have a bittorent to download it!

  • [yawn....] Been there, done that. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by haaz ( 3346 ) on Wednesday June 04, 2003 @12:28AM (#6112183) Homepage
    Anyone remember LinuxPPC Live?

    In 1998, our esteemed kernel hacker jcarr ( ;-> ) created a version of LinuxPPC Release 4 that would boot live from the CD. We gave away a few thousand at Macworld Expo, possibly a few at the first or second ALS. I don't remember if it made Slashdot, but we had enough stuff that did. Like the security contest Microsoft was putting on. At which we beat them.

    (Our old Pmac 9500 stayed up despite intensive attacks, and finally fell to one clever person who exploited a vulnerability in the version of proftpd running on the box. Which became his.)

    Bravo to Gentoo, but let us not forget, someone's done it before.

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